Team Melli should be banned

[Sam van Dam]

This is the same narrative maseh alinejad used when she convinced Iranians and the diaspora to turn their back on TM 3 years ago. Playing football in their job. It sucks innocent people are getting killed but it’s not the players fault.

if anyone feels TM should be banned or our players should boycott.. I have a suggestion for you. Quit your job, sell your house, fly to Tehran or whichever city you’re from and join the protests. If you’re not willing to do that then you are in no position to criticize our TM for going to work.

[love-tm]

This is the same narrative maseh alinejad used when she convinced Iranians and the diaspora to turn their back on TM 3 years ago. Playing football in their job. It sucks innocent people are getting killed but it’s not the players fault.

if anyone feels TM should be banned or our players should boycott.. I have a suggestion for you. Quit your job, sell your house, fly to Tehran or whichever city you’re from and join the protests. If you’re not willing to do that then you are in no position to criticize our TM for going to work.

Playing for a national team is not at job. The comparison you made is not the same. Nobody told the players to quit playing football and join the protest. Players usually play for national teams for pride and exposure to land a better club contract. I think most of the players in TM will do just fine financially even if they don´t play for their national team.

[fary-jupiter]

This is genuinely the stupidest post I've ever read on this forum, and I'm including things about flat earth and dinosaurs being 5000 years old.

"How hypocritical can you be, to want others to die while your a keyboard warrior?"

You wot? Have you seen my posts criticising Trump for asking so many thousands of Iranians to go out and take back their institutions, promising help is at hand. Sending them to their death.

All I've ever said is listen to what the people in Iran are saying - not just your own families but spaces on clubhouse and Twitter from all political sides. I only support the people in Iran

You called people a vatanforoush last time for saying Iran shouldn't play during WomanLifeFreedom because that's what the people in Iran are saying. Everyone here can see what kind of person you are.

Dont need to involve everyone to our conversation, talk for yourself.

Well you are acting stupid to me, like all others who think banning TM will have a positive impact on Iran.

All you forcing is taking attention out of it.

Imagine the scenes who could happen in LA.


In my opinion event if TM gets trashed, its a win win situation.

[koorosh]

Dont need to involve everyone to our conversation, talk for yourself.

Well you are acting stupid to me, like all others who think banning TM will have a positive impact on Iran.

All you forcing is taking attention out of it.

Imagine the scenes who could happen in LA.


In my opinion event if TM gets trashed, its a win win situation.

You should be able to argue your point without the need for being disrespectful.

Which player got a better contract by playing in WC2022? Which players performed under that duress of being threatened internally and booed externally.

Make no mistake...USA will not help IR do crowd management like Qatar did in 2022. There will be banners of Bisharaf everywhere. You will hear a deafening chant of Bisharaf from the moment the IR anthem goes on till the end of the game. The players will perform poorly and it will be a great lose-lose.

Players lose because they risk injury and their recovery time...aside from hearing hatred the rest of their lives...Iran will lose on and off the pitch, football fans lose too.

The games Iran will play will be the most strange and memorable games in history of WC...where the fans exuded hatred for their own team and cheered the opponents...the news and footage will reverberate throughout the world.. It will be a huge aberoorizy.

[Nokhodi]

Protests against TM, their futility and naiveté

1977 (or 78) - Iran plays France in France and the night before the game Iranian revolutionaries ruin the field.

1998 - Iran USA. Mko fans try to storm the field because this is IR’s team, not Iran’s. French police stops them.

2006 - mko stage protests outside of stadiums tm plays in.

2022 - fans spend thousands to boo tm for virtue signaling points online.

2026- ?

if you think protesting against tm works, or is helpful, congrats! You fell for propaganda straight out of a Marxist playbook in 1970.

[DR Strangemoosh]

Dont need to involve everyone to our conversation, talk for yourself.

Who am I involving in the conversation.

BTW you remind me of Seyyedoona, who was calling people "vatan foroush" at the same time you were, for the same reason...

You:

https://www.persianfootball.com/forums/forum/football-forums/persian-football-discussion-community/98481-tm-news-vol-7/page222#post3722445

Seyyedoona:

https://x.com/hamodii_ir/status/1596207257938964481?t=wMraZMJkygrCd8O9ZYwGiw&s=19

[koorosh]

Protests against TM, their futility and naiveté

1977 (or 78) - Iran plays France in France and the night before the game Iranian revolutionaries ruin the field.

1998 - Iran USA. Mko fans try to storm the field because this is IR’s team, not Iran’s. French police stops them.

2006 - mko stage protests outside of stadiums tm plays in.

2022 - fans spend thousands to boo tm for virtue signaling points online.

2026- ?

if you think protesting against tm works, or is helpful, congrats! You fell for propaganda straight out of a Marxist playbook in 1970.

Please don't bring MKO into this conversation. And Marxism is dead.

It is not what I believe or you believe that will affect what will happen. If my beliefs had any impact, no one in Iran would be shouting for the return of Pahlavi...and yet some (many?) do.

Do you think that the protests against TM in LA won't be much bigger than Qatar? The atmosphere of those games in 2022 was hardly sporting.

People need an outlet to express their anger and any Iranian who is willing to play under that flag and that anthem will be immediately targeted before they land in the USA.

Best to accept it, rather than resort to arguing. Iranian football is dead. Our society is dead. Until the end of IR at least.

[DR Strangemoosh]

Best to accept it, rather than resort to arguing. Iranian football is dead. Our society is dead. Until the end of IR at least.

Agreed. Sad but this is the case.

[Nokhodi]

Please don't bring MKO into this conversation. And Marxism is dead.

I don't want to bring them in. They have the ears of decision makers and this playbook is directly from them.

It is not what I believe or you believe that will affect what will happen. If my beliefs had any impact, no one in Iran would be shouting for the return of Pahlavi...and yet some (many?) do.

People can believe what they want. I just don't want my support of TM to be made as more than it really is.

Do you think that the protests against TM in LA won't be much bigger than Qatar? The atmosphere of those games in 2022 was hardly sporting.

Probably will be. So?

People need an outlet to express their anger and any Iranian who is willing to play under that flag and that anthem will be immediately targeted before they land in the USA.

Agree people need an outlet.
Playing under that flag at that level sucks, but again, 50 years from now, when IR is gone... all that will be recorded is that Iran played in this tournament.

Best to accept it, rather than resort to arguing. Iranian football is dead. Our society is dead. Until the end of IR at least.

This is nothing but a slogan. Doesn't mean anything.
I am not the one bringing up banning TM. You are?
If from now to June 2026 this is the kind of idea we have, I don't know what to say.

[fary-jupiter]

You should be able to argue your point without the need for being disrespectful.

Which player got a better contract by playing in WC2022? Which players performed under that duress of being threatened internally and booed externally.

Make no mistake...USA will not help IR do crowd management like Qatar did in 2022. There will be banners of Bisharaf everywhere. You will hear a deafening chant of Bisharaf from the moment the IR anthem goes on till the end of the game. The players will perform poorly and it will be a great lose-lose.

Players lose because they risk injury and their recovery time...aside from hearing hatred the rest of their lives...Iran will lose on and off the pitch, football fans lose too.

The games Iran will play will be the most strange and memorable games in history of WC...where the fans exuded hatred for their own team and cheered the opponents...the news and footage will reverberate throughout the world.. It will be a huge aberoorizy.

dont tell what i have to do.
And where was i disrespecful?

what you saying is just theory but incase your right, i rather have aberoozy then nothing at all. At least they will talk about the situation in iran.

Anyway, still hope regime change comes asap so we can close this topic.

[Super Shojaei]

Protests against TM, their futility and naiveté

1977 (or 78) - Iran plays France in France and the night before the game Iranian revolutionaries ruin the field.

1998 - Iran USA. Mko fans try to storm the field because this is IR’s team, not Iran’s. French police stops them.

2006 - mko stage protests outside of stadiums tm plays in.

2022 - fans spend thousands to boo tm for virtue signaling points online.

2026- ?

if you think protesting against tm works, or is helpful, congrats! You fell for propaganda straight out of a Marxist playbook in 1970.

Agree I don’t think it will make much difference I think it’s better for us to attend then boycott

boycotting just isolates us further and gives the ir more power and the world won’t give a rats ass and will prevent us from being involved in future world cups

at least by being there people will bring their lion and sun flags and Iranians at home get to watch more protests unfold inside the stadium and maybe that inspires us to do more and raises awareness of the situation

boycotting or getting banned from the World Cup just demoralises everyone further and would be bad for this forum’s health as well as the player’s careers and leave us in a North Koreaesque situation which is beyond ideal

at least the players protesting gives more awareness like Taremi celebrating in the champions league raises awareness in Greece and Europe. Aria jasuru protesting raises awareness in Japan

that’s the most these players can do- they are marketable and people will watch them that’s about it but they won’t save us from this situation and a lot of them are standing up which is good

[koorosh]

I don't think I could get any more demoralized than a regime killing 10-20 thousand of unarmed protestors in 2 days.

Well let me correct that....I would get more demoralized if a regime kills 10-20k protestors in 2 days, imprisons another 10K in addition to many more in prison, then have footballers begging for more Padash during a send off by our president.

No internet or even mobile phone...wait...we are North Korea.

If that Saman Goddos plays for Iran again, I will call him bisharaf to his face.

[OSTAD POOYA]

Any player that plays for that team is definitely a bisharaf. A traitor imo. How can you even play for such team when tens of thousands of your people died, are jailed, were killed in the worst possible ways, bodies missing, put in mass graves, etc. Only a bisharaf khaen will play and present the Islamic regimes team.

[mehdi13]

Protests against TM, their futility and naiveté

1977 (or 78) - Iran plays France in France and the night before the game Iranian revolutionaries ruin the field.

1998 - Iran USA. Mko fans try to storm the field because this is IR’s team, not Iran’s. French police stops them.

2006 - mko stage protests outside of stadiums tm plays in.

2022 - fans spend thousands to boo tm for virtue signaling points online.

2026- ?

if you think protesting against tm works, or is helpful, congrats! You fell for propaganda straight out of a Marxist playbook in 1970.

many of these calling for ban etc are part of the failed generation that abandoned iran for denmark, sweden, usa, etc. zere moft. Nothing more.

[Super Shojaei]

Any player that plays for that team is definitely a bisharaf. A traitor imo. How can you even play for such team when tens of thousands of your people died, are jailed, were killed in the worst possible ways, bodies missing, put in mass graves, etc. Only a bisharaf khaen will play and present the Islamic regimes team.

How many players have genuinely bailed on their international teams for political reasons

I can’t think of many across the world

even states with lesson freedom in the world like North Korea still get some disporas born and raised in Japan to come and play for their national team there were 2 j league 3 North Koreans that lined up against Iran in Laos

Sudan still after millions killed still get some British and American Sudanese in their team

Russia and Ukraine despite thousands killed in the meat grinder no one bailed their respective national teams

America killed millions all over the world in wars still no one has rejected an America call up due to their invasions of foreign countries

I again struggle to see any examples in the past from any nations that show people are really prepared to boycott their own nations and the chance to play at World Cups or international football purely on political basis