Team Melli should be banned

[koorosh]

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what made me fall in love with team melli was that it was a neutral platform to celebrate my heritage, free of all the stain and shame of IR and negative PR around Iran. I think it's been exactly that for many of us, especially those in the diaspora. And now they're trying to even take that from us.

You make some points worth addressing.

Tolerance of other people's views is important.

Dennis and Saman...are their families being squeezed by IR?

These eat drink soccer boys have no friends, families, know anyone who was murdered by this regime? Are they still 10 years old? Should they not develop a consciounce?

Are their dreams more important that other young people's dreams?

Is it okay to sell your soul to the devil?

It is okay that your teammate is in solitary confinement, rotting in jail?

Would you go and meet Raisi?

Is it okay that your teammates who expressed their views have been pushed out of TM?

When the regime comes and says if you don't want to sing the anthem, we don't want you...can one just ignore that? Just sing that anthem?

Football and everything else this regime touches carry the rotting stench of murder, persecution and corruption.

Enough is enough. No more going along.

As I am writing this, bombs are falling on the Iranian people. Whose policies have brought war to Iran... again?

Please stand with the people of Iran...you and all these players and every other Iranian. If you don't take a stand, you become part of them.

[webmaster]

I'm genuinely trying to understand: what makes this the IR's team? Outside of several players being pro-regime, what expectation did you have of the team that wasn't met?

Do you think it's justified for Iranians in LA to show up to the stadium just to attack the team?

Also, wasn't the photo of roozbeh cheshmi "bowing" to Raisi completely debunked once video came out showing that the guy was just trying to sit down (and wasn't bowing)? This photo was one of the main things that pissed people off

We are not attacking anyone, we are showing our disgust of a regime that we resent and want the world to see. We are making an statement through this. I guess if you look at how they killed thousands of your hamvatans without thinking they were Iranians, then you can genuinely understand why people hate anyone who plays and praises a team that loudly supports the regime.

Ask yourself if this was not political, then why Azmoun was crossed off? isn't he one of the best IRANIAN players who had to be there if this really was TM??? so if they are political and are unconcerned that their friend and teammate cannot join just because he met the leader of UAE? so what?? he didn't know there was going to be a war. So by supporting this team, you are also supporting their politics. That is easy to understand I guess.

[webmaster]

I advise you guys to watch this program and hear what most people think about this team instead of normalize things. This is not a normal soccer team. This is about a regime that has taken Iranians hostage.

[ramingeles2000]

You make some points worth addressing.

Tolerance of other people's views is important.

Dennis and Saman...are their families being squeezed by IR?

These eat drink soccer boys have no friends, families, know anyone who was murdered by this regime? Are they still 10 years old? Should they not develop a consciounce?

Are their dreams more important that other young people's dreams?

Is it okay to sell your soul to the devil?

It is okay that your teammate is in solitary confinement, rotting in jail?

Would you go and meet Raisi?

Is it okay that your teammates who expressed their views have been pushed out of TM?

When the regime comes and says if you don't want to sing the anthem, we don't want you...can one just ignore that? Just sing that anthem?

Football and everything else this regime touches carry the rotting stench of murder, persecution and corruption.

Enough is enough. No more going along.

As I am writing this, bombs are falling on the Iranian people. Whose policies have brought war to Iran... again?

Please stand with the people of Iran...you and all these players and every other Iranian. If you don't take a stand, you become part of them.

My problem with this is that it's so easy for diaspora Iranians with zero risk or skin in the game to take these moralistic, hypothetical positions from the comfort of Los Angeles or Vancouver.

I think that I'm capable of standing with the people of Iran and also supporting team melli. I think that 99 out of 100 people in their positions would accept a call up to play in a world cup, when that's what they dream about doing their entire lives.

The team melli hate is so irrational. I still haven't seen a single argument for why the players should boycott going to a world cup.

Tell me - if you were AJB for example, what would you do? Tell me specifically what actions you think he should have taken.

[ramingeles2000]

I advise you guys to watch this program and hear what most people think about this team instead of normalize things. This is not a normal soccer team. This is about a regime that has taken Iranians hostage.

if you were one of the team melli players, what would you do? Tell me specifically what actions you think the players should be taking, that they haven't taken.

[Afat11]

I made a post about this separately, but if I were Ramin, Taremi, Jahanbakhsh, etc. or another elder statesmen on the team, I would post on my Instagram referencing Sardar’s exclusion from the team and what a pity it is. We all know it’s for political reasons when that immobile tree Damaghlou makes the team and Sardar doesn’t. Sardar at 20% is more useful to TM than Damaghlou.

I doubt IR would kill Ezatollahi’s family for supporting Sardar. They would likely get a small slap on the wrist for posting even that Sardar, a guy who’s been a staple of our squad for 10+ years now is missing. Doesn’t even need to reference politics, they’re all just so weak minded and fearful of losing their place on the national team that they’ve lost all sense of morality. They don’t need to kill themselves in front of us to prove themselves, but even one small gesture they cannot and won’t do. They are cowards in my opinion and selfish/prioritizing power/fame/money over simple morality. If you believe they don’t post thanking Sardar for his contributions to our WC campaign out of fear they or their family will be killed for such a small gesture, I don’t know what to tell you. The guys are just weak mentally and have always been. Will crumble this World Cup like always. Maybe one day under a strong flag we will have some success, but these guys grew up in a cowardly, selfish, every man for himself IR Iran and it shows. I have no respect for them anymore. They showed their true colors. Sardar, AK8, Ali Daei, Ghafouri, Mazaheri, these are guys with some fortitude and balls.

[Sam van Dam]

^^

they didn’t sing the anthem vs England but have sang it since and we all know why.

these guys have done more than all of us in the diaspora combined yet some still aren’t content and looking for more things to complain about.

in 1978 Argentina hosted the World Cup under a military dictatorship and won in a stadium that was most likely used to torture and kill people.

athletes have played under hitler, Ussr, bush/obama/trump, and Putin.

TM has played under IR for over 40 years now all of a sudden they are the IRGC team. Yet all of you anti-tm people have jerseys with the IR patch/flag, I know some have the 98 kit with I.R. Iran on the front. If RP this week says support TM, would you guys support them?

this is exactly what IR wants, division between us and you guys are getting played like a fiddle.

never would I think in the 21st century peoples mentality would be stuck in the Salem witch trials era yet here we are ….

[webmaster]

if you were one of the team melli players, what would you do? Tell me specifically what actions you think the players should be taking, that they haven't taken.

I would quit TM immediately. They made enough money so far. Consciousness is more important than career or money. Standing with your people should never be compromised or negociated.

Like what really would they achieve with this level of insult to play a football game in this time specially playing on your enemy's turf who you are at war with??? Try to make sense out of this.

Or you really think our people are gonna call them heros?? There is nothing to win for this team unless the IR pays them really well . Be honest.

[webmaster]

^^

they didn’t sing the anthem vs England but have sang it since and we all know why.

these guys have done more than all of us in the diaspora combined yet some still aren’t content and looking for more things to complain about.

in 1978 Argentina hosted the World Cup under a military dictatorship and won in a stadium that was most likely used to torture and kill people.

athletes have played under hitler, Ussr, bush/obama/trump, and Putin.

TM has played under IR for over 40 years now all of a sudden they are the IRGC team. Yet all of you anti-tm people have jerseys with the IR patch/flag, I know some have the 98 kit with I.R. Iran on the front. If RP this week says support TM, would you guys support them?

this is exactly what IR wants, division between us and you guys are getting played like a fiddle.

never would I think in the 21st century peoples mentality would be stuck in the Salem witch trials era yet here we are ….

You totally forget why this happened?? So be because in 1978 it happened do you think in these days killing 40000 people on your own streets is normal?? people who care for them are 100 times better than you normalizing pro killer regime's team. But it is your choice.

Bro go support them I dont care, as soon you will see that nobody wants them anymore. Just wait.

[Ardalan]

My problem with this is that it's so easy for diaspora Iranians with zero risk or skin in the game to take these moralistic, hypothetical positions from the comfort of Los Angeles or Vancouver.

I think that I'm capable of standing with the people of Iran and also supporting team melli. I think that 99 out of 100 people in their positions would accept a call up to play in a world cup, when that's what they dream about doing their entire lives.

The team melli hate is so irrational. I still haven't seen a single argument for why the players should boycott going to a world cup.

Tell me - if you were AJB for example, what would you do? Tell me specifically what actions you think he should have taken.

Vaghti regime diktatorie arteshie Brasil dar in keshvar hokomat mikard, Socrates jor'at daasht ke jeloe in sisteme diktarori beiste.

Na-goftane yek bazikone Irani be TM dar in haal riske kamtari daare taa on kaari ke Socrates anjam daad.

Migi "man da'vat shodam amma tasmim gereftam az TM kenaaregiri konam chon shar'aet monaaseb nistand".

Agar kenaaregiri koni ke nemitonan bokoshanet, nemitonan bendazanet zendan.

Tasmim gerefti az TM kenaaregiri koni - hamin.

[persianballer]

Vaghti regime diktatorie arteshie Brasil dar in keshvar hokomat mikard, Socrates jor'at daasht ke jeloe in sisteme diktarori beiste.

Na-goftane yek bazikone Irani be TM dar in haal riske kamtari daare taa on kaari ke Socrates anjam daad.

Migi "man da'vat shodam amma tasmim gereftam az TM kenaaregiri konam chon shar'aet monaaseb nistand".

Agar kenaaregiri koni ke nemitonan bokoshanet, nemitonan bendazanet zendan.

Tasmim gerefti az TM kenaaregiri koni - hamin.

Forget about if we were in AJB shoes. Khodet pasho boro Iran yek kari bokon.

It's very easy for us to blame Iranians that have a life, and not take any responsibility ourselves.

[Artaxerxes]

Forget about if we were in AJB shoes. Khodet pasho boro Iran yek kari bokon.

It's very easy for us to blame Iranians that have a life, and not take any responsibility ourselves.

"Khodet pasho boro Iran yek kari bokon"

Bro this so called argument is as washed up as Khameneis jenaze, he is telling it like it is, these ego traitor players could easily just declined to accept the invitation, they have had 5 months since january.

But every time someone tells the truth the so called counter argument is

"Khodet pasho boro Iran yek kari bokon"

He does not have to go any damn where for just telling the naked truth.

Khak bar sare AJB and the rest of the traitors in this kesafat team.

[koorosh]

To All of you who say...it's easy as diaspora...go there and do something....people who participate in the normalization of the persecution by IR are helping to prolong it.

The people of Iran do not want this government... this system. That is why over 1000 sites of protests (IR figure) were brutally put down in 2 nights of mass terror just a few months ago

What we are asking for is not the TM players to assassinate Raisi at their meeting.

If all 23 players...all Iranian professional soccer players...come out and say...

We cannot play football while some of us are under political arrest.

OR

We cannot play football as there is political interference in Iranian football

OR

The people are suffering under economic conditions and war and we cannot play while people suffer

OR

We all are suffering from mental duress placed on the players by IFF and can't play soccer in the NT.

Yes. They will face consequences. But then they have fulfilled a moral obligation. Like the hundreds of thousands of maybe millions of Iranians who were in the streets protesting.

When they say we are playing to make the people happy...when in fact the people are not happy and they are playing for their own happiness...then they are amoral.

Much of the Iranian people and the diaspora want some external power to end IR. But what needs to happen for us to move on from tyranny is for the people to do it themselves. Without violence. Learning to stand up and say no.

No I will not sing that anthem. No I will not play for that flag. No I will not participate in your charade (keeping a football league going when the entire country was shut down). No.

Think about this...why does Dennis Eckert play for IR? For the happiness of the Iranian people? Or for his own selfish reasons? The others are the same.

[Artaxerxes]

To All of you who say...it's easy as diaspora...go there and do something....people who participate in the normalization of the persecution by IR are helping to prolong it.

The people of Iran do not want this government... this system. That is why over 1000 sites of protests (IR figure) were brutally put down in 2 nights of mass terror just a few months ago

What we are asking for is not the TM players to assassinate Raisi at their meeting.

If all 23 players...all Iranian professional soccer players...come out and say...

We cannot play football while some of us are under political arrest.

OR

We cannot play football as there is political interference in Iranian football

OR

The people are suffering under economic conditions and war and we cannot play while people suffer

OR

We all are suffering from mental duress placed on the players by IFF and can't play soccer in the NT.

Yes. They will face consequences. But then they have fulfilled a moral obligation. Like the hundreds of thousands of maybe millions of Iranians who were in the streets protesting.

When they say we are playing to make the people happy...when in fact the people are not happy and they are playing for their own happiness...then they are amoral.

Much of the Iranian people and the diaspora want some external power to end IR. But what needs to happen for us to move on from tyranny is for the people to do it themselves. Without violence. Learning to stand up and say no.

No I will not sing that anthem. No I will not play for that flag. No I will not participate in your charade (keeping a football league going when the entire country was shut down). No.

Think about this...why does Dennis Eckert play for IR? For the happiness of the Iranian people? Or for his own selfish reasons? The others are the same.

Preach brother 👏❤️🔥

[Ardalan]

Forget about if we were in AJB shoes. Khodet pasho boro Iran yek kari bokon.

It's very easy for us to blame Iranians that have a life, and not take any responsibility ourselves.

Man agar shakhsan dar TM bodam kenaregiri mikardam.
Midoni chera? Che hessi o haali daare vaghti keshvaret dar jange va regime keshvar yel adam-koshiye nabaavari karde?
Beri baazi koni ke chi beshe?
Hatta agar ham Jaame Jahani raa bordi?
Che hessi daare? Che haali daare?