Team Melli should be banned

[daggerhashimoto]

>I don't understand the reason to nuke your account to die on this hill.

Because honestly, I used to love this forum and was a regular specially during the last 2 world cup when we talked about our team, drooled over Carlos and supported our boys finding new clubs. Now it's just hatred and pure vitriol towards our team and players. I used to love coming here and reading comments. Now it's embarrassing and it makes me sad. So if they nuke it, I don't care. It's probably for the best.

> Jahanbakhsh knew to speak like a politician to play the middle ground, I don't know where his loyalties lie, but what Ramin, Shoja, Torabi, Beiranvand, Taremi say and behave like is that they are Hitler's favorite playtoys and they like the gifts and power he bestows upon them.

Dude, you don't know what they have been told. You don't know what kind of threats these guys are under. You don't know anything about the behind the scenes. It's easy to criticize them from Orange county anonymously, it's another thing to do it as a well known figure who has to worry about the safety of their loved ones. Plus it doesn't do anything. Lets say they come out and wore a shir-o-khorshid under their shirt and showed it after a goal. what does that do? You think that's going to change anything on the ground? Talk about hill to die on. It's not their job to lead a revolution. YOU go do it. YOU go there and snuff a mullah. YOU go.

>Based on that, I think you can imagine why many of us are not super fond of these players being successful.

Well, i'm still rooting for my team.

[Afat11]

>I don't understand the reason to nuke your account to die on this hill.

Because honestly, I used to love this forum and was a regular specially during the last 2 world cup when we talked about our team, drooled over Carlos and supported our boys finding new clubs. Now it's just hatred and pure vitriol towards our team and players. I used to love coming here and reading comments. Now it's embarrassing and it makes me sad. So if they nuke it, I don't care. It's probably for the best.

> Jahanbakhsh knew to speak like a politician to play the middle ground, I don't know where his loyalties lie, but what Ramin, Shoja, Torabi, Beiranvand, Taremi say and behave like is that they are Hitler's favorite playtoys and they like the gifts and power he bestows upon them.

Dude, you don't know what they have been told. You don't know what kind of threats these guys are under. You don't know anything about the behind the scenes. It's easy to criticize them from Orange county anonymously, it's another thing to do it as a well known figure who has to worry about the safety of their loved ones. Plus it doesn't do anything. Lets say they come out and wore a shir-o-khorshid under their shirt and showed it after a goal. what does that do? You think that's going to change anything on the ground? Talk about hill to die on. It's not their job to lead a revolution. YOU go do it. YOU go there and snuff a mullah. YOU go.

>Based on that, I think you can imagine why many of us are not super fond of these players being successful.

Well, i'm still rooting for my team.

There are those who make large sacrifices and risk their lives like Ghafouri, Mahini, Sardar, AK8, Dejagah, and others who have had balls to risk it all and suffered the punishments for disagreeing with these meymoons in charge. There are others on the team that put their heads down and say nothing, which isn't good, but they are slightly better than those who go out and parrot the IR's talking points and like Ghalenoei cry and whip themselves that nobody has ever been treated worse than us poor Iranians in USA! These guys have actively gone out of their way to say things that support the regime's agenda. You think the regime will kill them if they say something like "it's not a topic I feel comfortable speaking about. My heart is with my people" or something generic enough where they can at least have some semblance of care for their suffering countrymen. Many players have said similar on social media like Ghaedi and he's still playing and not dead.

Guys going there and running interference saying "it's our country, fuck off, don't ask questions", these guys are loser fucks. Get them off my team and maybe I'll support them again. Until then, only the willfully ignorant will plug their ears and go "lalala" they're only footballers, when literally these guys are mouthpieces and symbols of IR propaganda. You don't even deny it's propaganda, you just feel it's okay because they're afraid to lose their spot in the team if they aren't kissing IR's ass. Many of them don't kiss IR's ass and are not dead. The guys who do it willingly, you believe they are coersed? Laughable.

[Shahin K]

There are those who make large sacrifices and risk their lives like Ghafouri, Mahini, Sardar, AK8, Dejagah, and others who have had balls to risk it all and suffered the punishments for disagreeing with these meymoons in charge. There are others on the team that put their heads down and say nothing, which isn't good, but they are slightly better than those who go out and parrot the IR's talking points and like Ghalenoei cry and whip themselves that nobody has ever been treated worse than us poor Iranians in USA! These guys have actively gone out of their way to say things that support the regime's agenda. You think the regime will kill them if they say something like "it's not a topic I feel comfortable speaking about. My heart is with my people" or something generic enough where they can at least have some semblance of care for their suffering countrymen. Many players have said similar on social media like Ghaedi and he's still playing and not dead.

Guys going there and running interference saying "it's our country, fuck off, don't ask questions", these guys are loser fucks. Get them off my team and maybe I'll support them again. Until then, only the willfully ignorant will plug their ears and go "lalala" they're only footballers, when literally these guys are mouthpieces and symbols of IR propaganda. You don't even deny it's propaganda, you just feel it's okay because they're afraid to lose their spot in the team if they aren't kissing IR's ass. Many of them don't kiss IR's ass and are not dead. The guys who do it willingly, you believe they are coersed? Laughable.

perfectly said! The same with singing that anthem. They can AT LEAST muble it a lill. But no, hand on the IR flag and they were singing their hearts out!!

[daggerhashimoto]

The only one who didn't sing the anthem was Saman and that's because he has a Swedish passport.
Why don't you go to Iran and snuff a mullah. Go on then.

[Afat11]

The only one who didn't sing the anthem was Saman and that's because he has a Swedish passport.
Why don't you go to Iran and snuff a mullah. Go on then.

This isn't a zero sum game where it's either be the mullah terminator or be okay with kissing Mullah ass. Saman may play or have intention to play in Iran in the end of his career like Zandi, Dejagah, etc. I can guarantee you these meymoons won't do anything to him for not singing the anthem. They arrested Dejagah in 2022 for attending a Mahsa Amini protest in Germany, and they didn't execute him. These guys are stupid, but they're not that dumb to kill these international footballers. They give them a hard time, but these star footballers are the equivalent of Michael Jackson, Brad Pitt, etc. Short of murder by a TM player, they are getting away with anything else in Iran. They know this, Taremi could even not sing the anthem and be fine. Maybe they detain him for a day and let him go. These guys are more worried about their spot in the team than reprisal. There's really no historical precedent for a player being killed for not licking IR's butt. Saying things specifically against them, sure, I agree with you, there is risk there, and I'm not asking them to do that.

Asking them not to proactively repeat the regime's talking points and sing the anthem at the top of their lungs, I don't think that's too much to ask for. As Shahin said, they could mumble it. The worst that will happen is Ghoddos gets a day with Akbar the interrogator next time he returns to Iran and they give him a hard time to be a better soldier going forward or he'll never play for Persepolis or TM again! If that is what these guys fear, then seriously, what weak little bitches in my opinion.

[Shahin K]

The only one who didn't sing the anthem was Saman and that's because he has a Swedish passport.
Why don't you go to Iran and snuff a mullah. Go on then.

shame on you. Whitewashing again and again.

[koorosh]

The only one who didn't sing the anthem was Saman and that's because he has a Swedish passport.
Why don't you go to Iran and snuff a mullah. Go on then.

Saman didn't sing it because he doesn't know it. Not because of his passport.

It was made clear on Iranian TV...we don't want you if you don't want to sing the anthem.

Players knew exactly what the conditions and threats etc were before agreeing to go to the WC. They knew it from 2022 experience. They knew it from the women's soccer team.

You have not presented an ounce of any original thought...only the same sentiments (why don't u go to Iran and kill someone!). that have been repudiated over and over again.

[Afat11]

Saman didn't sing it because he doesn't know it. Not because of his passport.

It was made clear on Iranian TV...we don't want you if you don't want to sing the anthem.

Players knew exactly what the conditions and threats etc were before agreeing to go to the WC. They knew it from 2022 experience. They knew it from the women's soccer team.

You have not presented an ounce of any original thought...only the same sentiments (why don't u go to Iran and kill someone!). that have been repudiated over and over again.

It's funny because if any of us on this forum went to Iran and said one word we would actually be gunned down by this evil regime who mercilessly has killed so many of our countrymen. The only people who have some ability to do anything that shows the smallest defiance to this totalitarian IR monster are these players who have comfort in the fact they are the regime's favorite play things. Most of the neanderthals in charge like the ball kicking game because it's funny to their maymoon brains, so they give a long leash to these players. Players who drink, have unmarried sex with girls, etc. that would get the average Iranian whipped, jailed, etc. The same law doesn't apply to these guys, Allah doesn't see Kanaani trying to bang a girl on the team bus, Allah can only see the young protester's crimes of disagreeing with the regime.

These hypocrite bachebaz mullahs drink, bang, molest, everything under the sun because they hold the power, the players get the same treatment. Instead of using this to their advantage to do even the smallest sign of defiance/solidarity with the people, they are on TV with have the member down their throats and trying to take more down to show how good of soldiers they are. Fuck these losers, seriously. They are closer to the regime in terms of power and treatment than they are to those on the streets. They know it, and they take advantage of it. When the regime changes, sure, they will change their tune (maybe not that bat creature Torabi, but most will), but we won't forget that they didn't stand with the people. Sardar, AK8, etc. will be considered in good regards, Taremi will be an old khayemal loser like some other ex-players who nobody likes because they openly accept the role of IR puppet. I'm counting the days to a new Iran where these guys are forgotten and living in obscurity. Hopefully a new clean generation can come up and actually win without the weight of IR's baggage and brainwashing holding them back from success in life.

[koorosh]

Should I stop eating kabob too because the regime eats it?

Of course, there are plenty of things the regime and the Iranian people both embrace. If your standard is that anything they both embrace must be rejected, you’ll quickly run out of things that are uniquely Iranian.

Opposing the regime is one thing. We all do. Declaring sources of national pride off limits does nothing to weaken the regime. It hands more of Iran over to it.

You should stop eating Kabob if you believe in vegetarianism!

And if you are against the Islamic Republic, you should stop supporting TM.

Let's be honest here....You support TM for your own entertainment. It has nothing to do with patriotism or anything else.

Let's assume that the majority of people support TM at this juncture. So what? The majority of people supported IR and now they don't. The majority can be wrong. Does that mean that you should blindly follow?

[koorosh]

The only one who didn't sing the anthem was Saman and that's because he has a Swedish passport.
Why don't you go to Iran and snuff a mullah. Go on then.

Saman didn't sing it because he doesn't know it. Not because of his passport.

It was made clear on Iranian TV...we don't want you if you don't want to sing the anthem.

Players knew exactly what the conditions and threats etc were before agreeing to go to the WC. They knew it from 2022 experience. They knew it from the women's soccer team.

You have not presented an ounce of any original thought...only the same sentiments (why don't u go to Iran and kill someone!). that have been repudiated over and over again.

[daggerhashimoto]

Ok, Taremi and Co decide to not sing the anthem.
How does that help. Look at Ali Karimi all over instagram. How did that help anyone? How did that change anything on the ground?

IFF will just get rid of them, harass them and then invite Mohammad Doodoolpoor and Abbas Shoomboolnejad to the team. Imagine working all of your life to represent Iran (NOT IR IRAN, but IRAN) in the world cup and now you throw it all away for what? some retweets and heart emojis? I wouldn't.

[Afat11]

Ok, Taremi and Co decide to not sing the anthem.
How does that help. Look at Ali Karimi all over instagram. How did that help anyone? How did that change anything on the ground?

IFF will just get rid of them, harass them and then invite Mohammad Doodoolpoor and Abbas Shoomboolnejad to the team. Imagine working all of your life to represent Iran (NOT IR IRAN, but IRAN) in the world cup and now you throw it all away for what? some retweets and heart emojis? I wouldn't.

This already happened, except we got Doodoolpoor and Shoomboolnejad's cousins Moghanlou, Torabi and Alipour as our starting and main sub attackers who have done nothing to earn their place in the team.

Moghanlou did acceptably against NZ, which is like the movie Rudy where the mentally challenged kid gets a lucky pass, but we lost because we didn't have Sardar there to start or be a substitute. We missed him dearly. The team was already picked based on who they thought were the best followers of IR. If you think differently, I don't know what to tell you, you aren't living in reality. Point being, Torabi is there and Sardar, Sayadmanesh, etc. are not partially because of GN being braindead, but there's a big element of the good soldiers being rewarded with a trip to be defiant against the great satan USA.

I refuse to watch a team run like this, with politics and party bazi such a big element. The team is not merit based and it shows. If it were merit based and they called up the best players and played without so much political decision-making involved, I'd be less angry with this team, but as it stands, this team is a slap in our faces.

[koorosh]

Ok, Taremi and Co decide to not sing the anthem.
How does that help. Look at Ali Karimi all over instagram. How did that help anyone? How did that change anything on the ground?

IFF will just get rid of them, harass them and then invite Mohammad Doodoolpoor and Abbas Shoomboolnejad to the team. Imagine working all of your life to represent Iran (NOT IR IRAN, but IRAN) in the world cup and now you throw it all away for what? some retweets and heart emojis? I wouldn't.

Over and over again in this thread we have explained the problem with that logic.

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[daggerhashimoto]

^^
i don't know, you tell me. Apparently he is a Basij and Pastar squared with a little bit of Sayyed because he lipped the national anthem.
I was told to hate him and boo him because Javid shah my dawg!!! what is happening?!?!