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    Originally posted by Hosseini View Post
    You literally don't give him an ounce of credit for anything. Or point out any extenuating circumstances. Everything is his fault. I can admit his faults: overly emotional with referees, holds grudges, sometimes has bad lineups, and comes off as overly paranoid. But I can also point out the success he had with TM too. If you don't see any of that, there is no point in even continuing a discussion.

    No i don't, because the points you mentioned are not enough in any way to defend his performance with Iran.
    You admit his faults, the very same faults that has been the cause of his continuing failures. Yet you want him to continue?

    You and i seem to have different views of success.
    If you are happy with QF/SF in every AC and GS exit in every WC, then sure, sign him up for the rest of his life.

    Success for me is reaching heights we haven't before. He has totally failed in that department, despite having been given many more opportunities than anyone else. A self proclaimed top 10 coach who couldn't do better than his predecessors while simultaneously making us play the ugliest football there is, deserves a big kick in the ass, not a contract extension ffs.

    Esteghlal πŸ’™πŸ’™

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      Originally posted by kateb View Post

      As long as you support tm no matter what
      I can careless who you support as a coach as long as u supported them durring the 2022 wc.
      ..
      Look who are the choices we have for tm

      Amir galenoie
      Majidi
      Daie
      Nekunam
      Bronko
      WITH THAT LIST ABOVE 100% CQ




      me and Keshwardoost we are not obsessed with skocic
      we have fun with the name Armani bademjoon for skocic, WE GOT HIM FIRED beacause his resume was embarrassment to tm, and forever we will make fun of tomato forever, making fun of him is different then being obsessed with him.
      u should join me and kesshwardoost on skocic
      plus keshwardoost is teaching his morg o khorosash to say armani bademjoon.
      admit that's a funniest nickname ever.
      At this point, after his continuos failures, those guys deserve a chance over this charlatan.
      Esteghlal πŸ’™πŸ’™

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        Originally posted by Hosseini View Post
        If we give CQ another long contract, the best result that will come from it is scouting young talented players. That is probably his top attribute. It will lead to another solid generation of players to work with
        His top attribute is to scout young new players?
        Then he should focus on that and stay as far away as possible from coaching.

        Because during these 10 years he has been better at wasting their talent lol.
        Esteghlal πŸ’™πŸ’™

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          Originally posted by Hosseini View Post
          Shortlist if CQ isn't available:

          1. Morais
          2. GN
          3. Yahya
          4. Nekounam

          Caretaker/assistant:

          Bagheri
          Bagheri
          Bagheri
          Why Morais?
          Esteghlal πŸ’™πŸ’™

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            Originally posted by Hosseini View Post
            GN results with TM: 10 wins, 6 draws, 1 loss

            16 years ago.

            Total coaching record over 20 years: 323-195-117
            plus 431 goal difference

            He has much improved as a coach. With many teams having success with strong domestic coaches, especially who are leaders with a strong personality, this isn't really that bad.

            The key for TM coach is to have a strong personality and GN has that. Those who didn't faltered: Skocic, Branko in 2006 being the top of the list.
            Agreed 100%, good post.
            Esteghlal πŸ’™πŸ’™

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              Originally posted by peiman92 View Post

              Why Morais?
              He is not: Yahya, GN or Nekounam. πŸ˜†

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                Originally posted by Keshwardoost View Post
                He is not: Yahya, GN or Nekounam. πŸ˜†
                Correct, he is worse 😁
                Esteghlal πŸ’™πŸ’™

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                  Originally posted by peiman92 View Post

                  Correct, he is worse 😁
                  Lol πŸ˜…

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                    Originally posted by Hosseini View Post

                    You just deal in vibes and no substance. Iran's football was not on the map before CQ came and revitalized everything to the point where having successful legionnaires and making the WC consistently is the norm now.
                    I deal on vibes? Iran's football was not on the map before CQ? Revitalized what exactly? More like most he did was status quo for world cups and less than status quo for Asian cup. Successful legionnaires?! We had players play for Bayern, Hamburg...Lets be honest here we have one successful legionnaire and that is Taremi. And he is in the Portuguese league. That is your substance, you give Taremi playing good in Portugal more credit than to Karimi, Hashemian, Zandi, Daei, Mahdavikia, Minavand, Rezaei.. all having decent performances in Europe. So what did CQ revitalize again?! Please you are too old to be a fan girl. Anyone with a little bit knowledge about Iranian football knows if anything CQ's record with TM is sub par! Not a revolution nor a revitalization.
                    All you have to do is google Iran national team record and see that Iran more or less has always produced good players, has always performed more or less the same as now. Unless you want to tell us that CQ qualifying as one of two teams in a group of five with Iran in a group that did not have Saudi or two other traditional powers in it is something above our football.

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                      Originally posted by kateb View Post

                      Cq by far is the best WC coach in our history.
                      either u like it or not....hala mikhy kuse moosh chal kuni o begi bronko 2006 wc was better
                      than 2018,2014,and 2022 I WILL NOT STOP YOU,
                      You are intitle to your opinion, even though you are 100% wrong but since you have history of supporting tm no matter what ,I don't mined your wrong opinion.
                      one thing 2022 wc did
                      It showed who is a real tm fan and who is want e bee , and thank god majority of fake tm fans
                      Are gone.q
                      rather have 1 real friend (tm fan)then 100 fake ones.
                      Members like u, ozone,tolekhers, farzad , and couple of more
                      even though there is disagreement over who should be the coach,, BUT THE FACT OF ALL YOU BADEMJOONIS are real tm fans ,I don't mined spending my time talk tm..
                      bet your farm I wouldn't discuss tm with fans
                      That did not support tm durring 2022 wc.

                      Everyone of those coaches is better than CQ. CQ loses by default. By disqualification. By failing more than any other coach he is disqualified. Anyone of those coaches is better than CQ just by the very simple fact that they are a breath of fresh air. Remember even water stagnant for too long it becomes lajan. Branko is proven to be better than CQ. Stats are stats. I know you prefer Bademjoon but winning our last continental title, qualifying us to a world cup, getting a bronze in Asian cup, winning 5 titles with Perspolis, having a higher winning percentage in TM, Taking a Perspolis with a two year transfer ban to an ACL final...all speak volumes. On top of it you look at countries they both have coached in and you will see more failures for CQ while you will see more titles for Branko. Stop being a bademjoon and listen to numbers.

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                        Originally posted by Keshwardoost View Post
                        I would love to se a combo of CQ and Daei work together with long term plan that Daei taking over for wc 2026 qualifiers and CQ moving to estili role for that WC. Would probably be optimal in all wayz for our football, from talentspotting, coaching to playing style.
                        And I would like to see CQ leave Iran for good and never ever return. Talent spotting? Lol get out of here. What talent did he discover? Our TM has never been so low on talent and skill. In fact many of the CQ fan girls give him credit for not losing too badly with these bunch of players. Anything stagnant rots, and we have already rotted and kapaked a long time ago. The inability to beat a Bosnia or tie a U.S team to advance from the group is telling us to wake up. If we do somethings will change if we do not nothing will. It is time. It is time we stop fooling ourselves. It is time we demand better from ourselves. It is time to dream. it is time to want better results. We have burned two great opportunities to advance from the group stage and to win an Asian cup after so many years.

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                          Originally posted by tooleh khers View Post
                          And I would like to see CQ leave Iran for good and never ever return. Talent spotting? Lol get out of here. What talent did he discover? Our TM has never been so low on talent and skill. In fact many of the CQ fan girls give him credit for not losing too badly with these bunch of players. Anything stagnant rots, and we have already rotted and kapaked a long time ago. The inability to beat a Bosnia or tie a U.S team to advance from the group is telling us to wake up. If we do somethings will change if we do not nothing will. It is time. It is time we stop fooling ourselves. It is time we demand better from ourselves. It is time to dream. it is time to want better results. We have burned two great opportunities to advance from the group stage and to win an Asian cup after so many years.
                          Daei + CQ combo would definately benefit our talentspotting and upcoming generationswitch. Daei has a proven good eye for talentspotting (CQ aswell).

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                            Originally posted by peiman92 View Post

                            Agreed.
                            Let's hope Qatar sign him up asap, before they realize what a huge mistake they're about to make lol.
                            Wishful thinking. If we are going to wish to unload him on our opponents lets wish him 14 years in Saudi Arabia or Japan.

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                              Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
                              You never know. You are speculating. But reality it wouldn't have hurt us to fill those spots now would it?

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                              In reality we missed 3 spots. He took 4 goalies lol. Not to mention the guys he took and we all knew would not get a chance. Players like Amiri, Shoja.. I am certain he took then just to say he is not holding grudges while he actually was. It would have been great if we had a few more forwards to at least replace the injured Azmoun or come in the dying minutes when we are desperate for a goal.

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                                Originally posted by naderb94 View Post
                                Ghalenoei would be the worst possible hire... No way TM players would take him serious
                                Ghalenoi is such an upgrade on CQ. For so so many reasons from cultural to Iran football knowledge. The knowledge about Iranian football was always CQ's down fall. We should at least learn from our 14 years or so under him that we absolutely cannot have a coach who has a low view of our football. Respect for our football is a must. Otherwise we will always sit deep against most opposition and hope for something out of the game. Sit back against a team like U.S and wait for them to tire themselves out instead of dictating our football to them. Ghalenoi should not make the same mistake as Skocic and immediately kick out all the old CQ faithful, and if Taremi even says one word show him the door. I anticipate the list of players will change drastically with Ghalenoi coming on which is waaaaaay over due.

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