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I know, I literally bought flights and convinced a lot my friends to come and went to Vancouver, it ended up being such an upsetting trip. I couldn't get over the fact that it got cancelled, I was too bummed out. I remember hear talks that it would get cancelled and I didn't believe them. The whole point of sports are to separate politics and bring people together. After that cancellation, and also what happened to the Russian NT, the bias against Iran, it is not unheard of that it would get cancelled... I still refuse to believe it will happen, but I can't pretend that I am not worried
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I hate to see it but these events are mirroring the Canada fiasco. Calls for banning TM from Alinejad and others on top of Iran's support of Russia seems like perfect ammunition for Fifa to say hey Chile welcome to the WC settling the dispute with Ecuador along the way.Originally posted by Karimi 8 View PostEverything seems so divided. I tell people that having our TM in the WC, protesting the regime, and performing well is the best thing they can do. But there are so many people saying that they should refuse to go and drop out as protest. I just don't see the point in that, they'll just get forgotten. Having them protest at the world's biggest sporting event is such a better move. I just can't get through to people on the other side no matter what I say...
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Everything seems so divided. I tell people that having our TM in the WC, protesting the regime, and performing well is the best thing they can do. But there are so many people saying that they should refuse to go and drop out as protest. I just don't see the point in that, they'll just get forgotten. Having them protest at the world's biggest sporting event is such a better move. I just can't get through to people on the other side no matter what I say...
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tm should do a tribute next friendly for kateb after he has been banned
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https://twitter.com/CabineSport/stat...83904183717889
Taremi: "I'm happy for FC Porto because we won, but given the situation in Iran, I couldn't celebrate the team's goals. I couldn't out of respect for our people. I'm here because of them too."
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[QUOTE=IranFTW;2844998]Stop over reacting! You take everything out of context. Of course murder, rape, etc are crimes. Believing in Islam whether you agree with it or not is not a crime. Just an FYI. Even if a person believes women are less than men...trust me many such individuals exist...still not a crime unless they act on it to the detriment of others.Originally posted by O-ZoNe View PostImagine every republican president did this to Democrat voters and vice versa...what would become of the USA or any other democratic country?
...Holding people accountable is one thing but criminalizing beliefs and views is just a covert way of setting up political prisons. [\quote]
Do you ever have a normal take about anything??...Anything at all??
You honestly think supporting murder of women for "improper hijab", being ok with mass murder of 1500 protesters over just 3 days, and not minding rape of political prisoners is just a matter of opinion??
There is no way Iranians don't know about these issues, and there is no possible way to be neutral about them! So the genius take here is that a person who supports this crap or thinks it's no big deal is just a guy with "different" views??...Are you serious with this stuff?...
Some of us either have no clue about what actually goes on in Iran, or they're revealing a lot about themselves here.
Well that's enough aggravation for me tonight. Honestly some of this stuff is beyond pathetic.
To be quite frank many people in Iran from peasants to elite unfortunately have no clue what is going on and believe contrary views. Many believe the west is formenting unrest. Many of these folks don't want to believe their loved ones died for nothing defending IR and their homeland against Iraq. Stop being a keyboard warrior...some people are truly revealing themselves.
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Brentford shared a support statement with Ghoddos but included IR symbol in it, Ghoddos covering up IR symbol with a black heart, love the man
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[QUOTE=O-ZoNe;2844949]Imagine every republican president did this to Democrat voters and vice versa...what would become of the USA or any other democratic country?
...Holding people accountable is one thing but criminalizing beliefs and views is just a covert way of setting up political prisons. [\quote]
Do you ever have a normal take about anything??...Anything at all??
You honestly think supporting murder of women for "improper hijab", being ok with mass murder of 1500 protesters over just 3 days, and not minding rape of political prisoners is just a matter of opinion??
There is no way Iranians don't know about these issues, and there is no possible way to be neutral about them! So the genius take here is that a person who supports this crap or thinks it's no big deal is just a guy with "different" views??...Are you serious with this stuff?...
Some of us either have no clue about what actually goes on in Iran, or they're revealing a lot about themselves here.
Well that's enough aggravation for me tonight. Honestly some of this stuff is beyond pathetic.
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Imagine every republican president did this to Democrat voters and vice versa...what would become of the USA or any other democratic country? Hate is not the answer. Holding people accountable is one thing but criminalizing beliefs and views is just a covert way of setting up political prisons. I don't think anyone in Iran wants political prisoners and prisons.Originally posted by IranFTW View PostThe way to deal with Islamists in a free Iran is simple: Anyone who has committed crimes against citizens should be tried in a court of law and handed their punishment. Those who've only kissed butt like Torabi can be left alone, but it should be made clear that their cowardice and opportunism is not forgotten. This last part isn't about revenge. It's to discourage that disgusting mentality like any culture should. It's both fair and necessary that there be a difference between the social standing of someone like Mahini who risks his neck to support his countrymen and weasels like Torabi or Amiri.
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I went out of my way to clarify there shouldn't be physical punishments for ass kissers and you still post nonsense like this. What a waste of time.Originally posted by Farzadfarhangni View PostThere are different levels of butt kissing too... So I think we should assign each citizen a score of 1-10... And tattoo it on their forehead so we all know who we are dealing with right away!!! Baba jan, if they have not committed any crime, they should have as much right as anyone else. We have to learn to live with people that we disagree with.
There are women and young people getting shot on the streets right now and we have people worried about being "mean" to parasites who support it! What a joke.
Anyone with common sense can understand that shaming shameful behavior is not only reasonable but necessary in a normal culture. Those who agree with evil enable evil. And it's only reasonable that they be treated less respectfully than those who risk their necks to take a stand. This is just common sense. If you still don't get it please ask someone else because I can't make it any clearer.
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A French Revolution guillotine of all the supporters is not what should be happening now.
Iran has laws. If the death penalty is one of them or lifetime jail that is up to the people and parliament at the time.
If someone worked under IR and committed a crime they need to be tried and they need to face their punishment if found guilty. Acting under "the guidance of Islam" is not an excuse. If you killed someone you better be facing the consequences.
1) Morality police- without support those people are powerless and laws should be passed banning them. If the members decide to regulate other peoples clothing there should be strict laws to dissuade them.
2) The majority of IR supporters are sandis khor, poor people who have been brainwashed, religious without understanding the concept of coexisting. They should not be the target.
3) Our goal should be to target the highest up members of IR as that would provide the most 'relief' for all the suffering people who are asking for revenge. Remember, this has many levels. Are we going to let them go into exile abroad? Do we send spy forces to kill them like IR killed so many people? We have to think these things through because of consequences.
4) Despite all this, everyone should understand that in this scenario, IR is vulnerable and no longer exalted to be immune. For their crimes(violence) they would be equal to MKO supporters and should be treated as such. Maintaining the peace is great. Without proper law and order it will be impossible to maintain. The families that have suffered from people in IR are not going to just allow them to get off scot free
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What did he post that was so horrible? a lot of known people posted some very strong words.Originally posted by Futbaldoost View Post
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There are different levels of butt kissing too... So I think we should assign each citizen a score of 1-10... And tattoo it on their forehead so we all know who we are dealing with right away!!! Baba jan, if they have not committed any crime, they should have as much right as anyone else. We have to learn to live with people that we disagree with.Originally posted by IranFTW View PostThe way to deal with Islamists in a free Iran is simple: Anyone who has committed crimes against citizens should be tried in a court of law and handed their punishment. Those who've only kissed butt like Torabi can be left alone, but it should be made clear that their cowardice and opportunism is not forgotten. This last part isn't about revenge. It's to discourage that disgusting mentality like any culture should. It's both fair and necessary that there be a difference between the social standing of someone like Mahini who risks his neck to support his countrymen and weasels like Torabi or Amiri.
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The way to deal with Islamists in a free Iran is simple: Anyone who has committed crimes against citizens should be tried in a court of law and handed their punishment. Those who've only kissed butt like Torabi can be left alone, but it should be made clear that their cowardice and opportunism is not forgotten. This last part isn't about revenge. It's to discourage that disgusting mentality like any culture should. It's both fair and necessary that there be a difference between the social standing of someone like Mahini who risks his neck to support his countrymen and weasels like Torabi or Amiri.
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