FIFA World Cup 2018 Qualifying: Oman - Iran @ Sultan Qaboos, Muscat; 08-10-2015

[Nokhodi]

Khalatbari is missed.. I liked how he took matters into his own hands against Lebanon in june 2013.
Brace yourselves for another "agar va amma" qualification (if Iran makes it out if this group).

Welcome to every Iranian World Cup qualification campaign ever!

[persian_cheetah]

Khalatbari is missed.. I liked how he took matters into his own hands against Lebanon in june 2013.
Brace yourselves for another "agar va amma" qualification (if Iran makes it out if this group).

Bro why all the negativity, for fucks sake our next 3 games are in azadi and i expect TM to demolish all of em especially Oman.

[Abtin]

Khalatbari is missed.. I liked how he took matters into his own hands against Lebanon in june 2013.
Brace yourselves for another "agar va amma" qualification (if Iran makes it out if this group).

[Z Joon]

Iran v Oman Analysis

[ramingeles2000]

How in gods name could I possibly believe this? I can ask you the same thing tbh: how in gods name could you possibly believe that we cannot get a coach like that again? How do you think CQ was hired? Because PFDC members begged him to come to Iran?

With the sanctions being gone, we can start seeing the effects of it in most sports, football included. I believe that now, we can get any half-decent coach with the money that we are giving to CQ regardless anyways.
Maybe not someone with the resume of CQ, but a foreign coach that will do a decent job with Iran. And unlike most people I don't think that CQ is a god that makes us do wonders, in the end on paper, he did a great job but nothing extraordinary, and someone of the level of Paul Le Guen could most likely do as good with the level of promising Iranian talents coming up in the next few years.

You may think differently, and free to do so, I know that there are several members on these forums that think of CQ as some sort of Messiah of Iranian football, it's your opinions after all, and everyone has a different one. He is a great coach and did a lot of good in Iranian football, but to me there are a lot of managers that could realistically coach Iran and do as well as him at least. But anyways we are talking few years early, he started this and will need to stay to complete what his contract was renewed for; qualify Iran to the WC. Afterwards in 2018, there will be place for these words.

bro don't paint me as some CQ worshipper just because i pointed out the obvious. iran has rarely been able to attract decent foreign coaches. who in their right mind wants to live in iran? the only reason we got CQ was because he was being (unfairly) investigated for allegedly kicking FIFA doping investigators when he coached portugal and his reputation was in shambles. if history is any indication, we wont be able to hire a great international coach for a long long time after CQ is gone. i hope i'm wrong. but don't forget that the last time we had an international level coach, his name was miroslav blazevic

[Salar]

A good performance on tuesday and the Oman match will be long forgotten. We were unbelievably poor, I accept that but we are top of the table, we have 3 home games to play now which I'm sure will result in 9 points and hopefully by next year the team will have gelled together.

[khodam]

That's the stupidest, most idiotic statement I've read the past week. Playing style is more important than result? Are you high?



"Oh yeah we lost the game against this top team but we played well!"

Ohh yeahh well we won this match against this top team but we didn't play well, QUIEROZ OUT!"

You don't need to "wheelie" over this thread. [emoji6]

We had a beautiful and exciting game against Argentina. Even though we lost, most fan thought TM played great and the result wasn't important. And I agree with that sentiment.

At any rate, we all follow TM based on our own reasons. I opt for the entertainment and excitement. Winning 20-0 over the likes of Tibet doesn't do it for me. Had TM won the Oman game I still wouldn't be happy based on their miserable performance.

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[khodam]

And we keep referring to the heat and humidity. For God sake half of our team plays in Qatar and similar places. And why two weeks of camping in that weather was not enough.

Do you think if Germany or France played Oman we would have seen the same weather related performance?

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[Z Joon]

Sanctions play a marginal difference. You'd be naive to think that even if money is allowed to flow, it would be for the betterment of the team. Again, I don't know what % of members on this site are familiar with the socio-political climate in Iran but rugs has brought it up over and over. There are very few people that care about improving our football; the majority want to fill up their pockets and leave. There's a nonsensical fantasy that people live in, thinking that change will instantly yield better results.

I've rarely posted lately due to a lack of time (and also due to the cyclical nature of these discussions). In any case, props to the likes of ramingeles2000 and Ando_Teymourian for seeing the big picture as it is and not as they'd like to imagine it to be.

You may be right. But you can quite clearly see some "improvements" in most sports already, and remember CQ is our coach right now, IFF found him and hired him. They are paying him a huge salary, he is the highest paid manager in Asia if I'm not mistaking as well (not sure how much van Marwijk is earning with KSA), there is nothing telling us that we cannot hire a coach of the same caliber again, nothing really. CQ didn't accept the Iran job for Kaffashian's pretty eyes nor PFDCers begging him to come. He works in Iran because he is payed enough and also sees potential in the country that will help him expand his resume and achievements, same case with any other coach.

There is no need to use fear mongering and pessimistic techniques to convince everyone that we are lost and doomed after CQ, because nothing guarantees such a thing. And remember, what you call "seeing the big picture" is subjective, "the big picture" can be different for different people.

[K. Nader]

How in gods name could I possibly believe this? I can ask you the same thing tbh: how in gods name could you possibly believe that we cannot get a coach like that again? How do you think CQ was hired? Because PFDC members begged him to come to Iran?

With the sanctions being gone, we can start seeing the effects of it in most sports, football included. I believe that now, we can get any half-decent coach with the money that we are giving to CQ regardless anyways.
Maybe not someone with the resume of CQ, but a foreign coach that will do a decent job with Iran. And unlike most people I don't think that CQ is a god that makes us do wonders, in the end on paper, he did a great job but nothing extraordinary, and someone of the level of Paul Le Guen could most likely do as good with the level of promising Iranian talents coming up in the next few years.

You may think differently, and free to do so, I know that there are several members on these forums that think of CQ as some sort of Messiah for Iranian football, it's your opinions after all, and everyone has a different one. He is a great coach and did a lot of good in Iranian football, but to me there are a lot of coach that could potentially coach Iran and do as well as him at least. But anyways we are talking few years early, he started this and will need to stay to complete what his contract was renewed for; qualify Iran to the WC. Afterwards in 2018, there will be place for these words.

Sanctions play a marginal difference. You'd be naive to think that even if money is allowed to flow, it would be for the betterment of the team. Again, I don't know what % of members on this site are familiar with the socio-political climate in Iran but rugs has brought it up over and over. There are very few people that care about improving our football; the majority want to fill up their pockets and leave. There's a nonsensical fantasy that people live in, thinking that change will instantly yield better results.

I've rarely posted lately due to a lack of time (and also due to the cyclical nature of these discussions). In any case, props to the likes of ramingeles2000 and Ando_Teymourian for seeing the big picture as it is and not as they'd like to imagine it to be.

[Z Joon]

how in gods name could you possiby believe this? what makes you believe that we could get a coach like that?

How in gods name could I possibly believe this? I can ask you the same thing tbh: how in gods name could you possibly believe that we cannot get a coach like that again? How do you think CQ was hired? Because PFDC members begged him to come to Iran?

With the sanctions being gone, we can start seeing the effects of it in most sports, football included. I believe that now, we can get any half-decent coach with the money that we are giving to CQ regardless anyways.
Maybe not someone with the resume of CQ, but a foreign coach that will do a decent job with Iran. And unlike most people I don't think that CQ is a god that makes us do wonders, in the end on paper, he did a great job but nothing extraordinary, and someone of the level of Paul Le Guen could most likely do as good with the level of promising Iranian talents coming up in the next few years.

You may think differently, and free to do so, I know that there are several members on these forums that think of CQ as some sort of Messiah of Iranian football, it's your opinions after all, and everyone has a different one. He is a great coach and did a lot of good in Iranian football, but to me there are a lot of managers that could realistically coach Iran and do as well as him at least. But anyways we are talking few years early, he started this and will need to stay to complete what his contract was renewed for; qualify Iran to the WC. Afterwards in 2018, there will be place for these words.

[ramingeles2000]

I also believe, contrarily to most people, that we should certainly be able to find a decent foreign coach after CQ, I said it before even someone like Paul Le Guen, current Oman manager, who has an impressive resume and is a realistic option, I'm sure someone of his caliber could still achieve excellent results with the future Iranian squad, we have a lot of great talents coming up which may end up being one of our best generations imo (2018-2022 one).

But CQ must stay now and improve, we started this qualification with him and we will need to end it with him (of course except major slip up), however after 2018 I think it would be time for someone else to step up.

how in gods name could you possiby believe this? what makes you believe that we could get a coach like that?

[saadat_abad]

I also believe, contrarily to most people, that we should certainly be able to find a decent foreign coach after CQ, I said it before even someone like Paul Le Guen, current Oman manager, who has an impressive resume and is a realistic option, I'm sure someone of his caliber could still achieve excellent results with the future Iranian squad, we have a lot of great talents coming up which may end up being one of our best generations imo (2018-2022 one).

But CQ must stay now and improve, we started this qualification with him and we will need to end it with him (of course except major slip up), however after 2018 I think it would be time for someone else to step up.

i do agree with keeping CQ till the end of the campaign unless we actually really fuck and go down hill. i feel like after the 2018 Wc Cq would like to retire anyways. it be great success to take iran to two consecutive WC's and possibility reaching the QF's of the 2018 WC. i think that should be a good enough ending for him.

[Kiarash]

how about giving oman credit for a good performance? we've always had matchup problems with them. 1) our team is short on talent 2) we're in a transition phase. everyone says to inject new blood but when CQ actually does it and we inevitable have some growing pains short-sighted people complain 3) a 1-1 draw away is a respectable result, look at what happened to Germany vs Ireland or Australia vs Jordan. Give me a break.

Iranian fans complain so much. Just wait til CQ gives up and leaves, we'll rue the day we gave him so much crap for NO REASON

We made Oman look like world beaters because we gave them too much confidence considering our uncreative defensive playing style. The same Oman who tied Guam a while ago, just keep that in mind. I don't like how we draw comparisons to other teams to make ourselves feel better just because Japan or Australia lost to whoever. Why should it matter? Why can't we look down upon ourselves and be critical? God forbid if we are critical about our coach or team...

[ramingeles2000]

To be honest, we don't need any European based player to beat Oman. Looking at the past achievements of Oman, it is safe to say that they are a 2nd tier Asian side at best! Even our league is superior to Oman, so I don't think that the ''shortage of talent'' is an issue. We had pretty experienced players like Andranik, Hosseini and few others on the field..what they had shown was far below what should be expected from them. Talents can't carry the entire team by themselves.

how about giving oman credit for a good performance? we've always had matchup problems with them. 1) our team is short on talent 2) we're in a transition phase. everyone says to inject new blood but when CQ actually does it and we inevitable have some growing pains short-sighted people complain 3) a 1-1 draw away is a respectable result, look at what happened to Germany vs Ireland or Australia vs Jordan. Give me a break.

Iranian fans complain so much. Just wait til CQ gives up and leaves, we'll rue the day we gave him so much crap for NO REASON