Queiroz selects the roster for the Maldives game

[Kavian]

I am thankful that we have so many good goalkeepers these days. It wasn’t too long ago where we had such a shortage of quality keepers. There was this period after Abedzadeh that we really struggled!

In Defence, I think we have some challenges. Our current player selection is on the older side and by the time this team reaches the WC, some of them may be too old. I would like to see a new generation of players invited to the team so that they gain the experience.

In the mid field, we seem to have a good supply of talent. I can see how difficult it would be for CQ to come up with the final list. However, there he should also focus on the younger generation of players, as Neko, Ando and Karimi are simply not going to be an option in a couple of year time.

Up front is where I think we are having the most problem. For exception of one or two players, I really don’t see how the current selection is going to produce the quality that is expected. For example, Oladi has never performed well for TM. What has changed? We need some tall, strong striker like Daie who can give us an option to score goal from the air. Enough of these shorties!

Watch Copa America and you get an idea of what kind of players you would need to put together a deceant team these days. They have taken physique to the next level, we are still dealing with skinny legs!

[maij]

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I guess we paid 5 million dollars to a coach to make sure that a newspaper do not remind us who is the top scorer and who plays for that top team and who's cloth dries under the same sun Messi's cloth gets dry.

From what I see, he was invited to a camp and the coach crossed his name. ... don't play "I don't know what's going on in Iran". If it was about selection based on the stat, then why do we need a coach? we need a statistician.

I just finished watching Brazil's game. Guess who was on the bench? Dani Alvez .... I guess the coach didn't get the memo that he plays in Barcelona.

Cheers,

Very well said.

Although what the author has mentioned about the odd situation with Iran's league scorer not making the cut with Team Melli , Daei excepted, is quite true. Although Reza Nourozi has been tested in the camp , and I presume that Quieroz also seen footage of him playing in the league , it is finally up to the coach to decide.

He needs no guidance from anyone nor reminders of the capabilities of players that he is physically testing in front of his eyes. There could be dozens of reasons that he does not see Nourozi fit at this stage. Perhaps some will dismiss his reasons and do not accept it , but this is not the way that we should be dealing with the coach or rating him.

I always maintain my own theory that in football 2+2 does not always equal 4. Some events just do not make logical sense like why Messi fails to score or perform for Argentina while he is on fire with Barcelona. Of course , there will be all sort of theories floating around , but at the end of the day , and as far as I am concerned ......it does not make real sense!

[zzgloo]

The reason # 4 could be :
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4- We, through media, just have over rated faimouse players and believe thier previouse fame sets them apart...and the reality is, that the difference with lesser known players are either not that much, or even less...and QC , makes his own independent judgement based on what he sees.

[Hajagha]

Reason some (me included) is not so harsh on him is mainly because:
1- His credential, as one of top profile coach
2- Not has been in Iran long enough to see players for more games
3- Expecting with passage of time he will refine his selection.

Yes, yes and yes.

He will be there for many years. He hasn't had any official game yet. We don't have any superstar, all our players are IPL level. We should let the coach has his own experience with the players. At the end of the day, we went through hell to bring this guy to the country. A country that you are not able to send or take a dollar from it. A country that the major news coming out is "depressing" in the most positive way to describe it.

Queiroz is the best thing has happened in Iranian football in the last 10 years. You wanna kick some a$$ to sharpen your a$$ kicking ability, I don't think you will be short to find a$$es in that destroyed country/football.

Leave this guy alone please for now.

Cheers,

[Hajagha]

وی همچنین در خصوص خط خوردن بازیکنانی چون رضا نوروزی و ملی پوشان تیم فوتبال استقلال گفت: اجازه دهید این مسائل را جدا از هم پاسخ بدهم. اگر می خواهید در مورد تیم ملی سئوال کنید و اظهارنظری داشته باشید باید علایق و احساسات خود نسبت به یک تیم را بیرون بگذارید و وارد اینجا شوید . من این توصیه و نصیحت را برای شما دارم که در خصوص مسائل تیم ملی نباید هیچ وقت منافع باشگاهی را در نظر بگیریم.

وی از تعهد بازیکنان تیم ملی فوتبال کشورمان در اردوی اتریش ابراز رضایت کرده و گفت: در این برهه زمانی از بازیکنانی که در اردوی تیم ملی حضور دارند رضایت کامل دارم و باز هم تاکید می کنم بازیکنانی که در حال حاضر در اردوی تیم ملی هستند انتخاب ما برای بازی با مالدیو هستند. رضا نورزوی هم به مانند دیگر بازیکنانی که در فهرست تیم ملی نیستند می تواند با نشان دادن کیفیت خود مجددا به تیم ملی باز گردند.

[St_Mark]

If an Iranian coach, GN, Ebrahimi, Daei, Kohan… select Dehnavi, Seifi, Daghighi, and Baou…. And claim they are in his best 30 Iranian footballer; he will be ridiculed and criticized for rest of his career because of stupid claim.
Reason some (me included) is not so harsh on him is mainly because:
1- His credential, as one of top profile coach
2- Not has been in Iran long enough to see players for more games
3- Expecting with passage of time he will refine his selection.

If we are often criticize our coaches for some of their unsound decision, we should not be afraid, reluctant to criticize Queiroz’s choices if we see relevant.

No , Zare is not among best Iranian CD, Dehnavi & Pouladi are not best Iranian LB, and Baou & Seifi are not among best Iranian MF but If for what Queiroz need to win these are his choice he should be supported since he is in charge and want to win as much as rest of us.

For Queiroz to succeed beside his excellent credential he needs support of media and fans in Iran and if he is careless about his choice of players and comments he will not be taken as serious as he should be taken.
I will be the first one to hope he proves me wrong.

[BacheLot]

not seen him enough to have good judgment of his quality..! but we all know great club players do not necessarily make good international players..! even the current undisputed best player of the world Messi struggles to establish himself as a force in Argentine squad..!
i somehow doubt our playing style is under CQ is going to be too much different than Branko/Ghotbi's for most part defensive, result driven tactics. for such tactics i for one prefer a stronger, physically enforcing, hustling type Target men like Gholami/(ghazi??) to both Noruzi and Ansarifard type players..!
overall its obvious that reza is a better footballer than Hadi, BUT Hadi has that rare Instictive(daei like) finishing quality that probably placed him ahead of Reza in CQ mind..!!??

anyways i think many unknown to us yet, factors play into CQ's squad selection process, and i so far found him to be a Thoughtful coach with tremendous foresight..! in addition, i can trust that he is not blinded by Sorkh Aabi party bazi , so i say lets see his team a few times in action and watch him making final adjustments to his squad, before start to go hard on the guy..!!

ps
im glad the youngster didnt make any stupid bridge burning comments about the situation and i hope to see him back in the future lists as we really need some promising young blood for the future..!

[Hajagha]

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I guess we paid 5 million dollars to a coach to make sure that a newspaper do not remind us who is the top scorer and who plays for that top team and who's cloth dries under the same sun Messi's cloth gets dry.

From what I see, he was invited to a camp and the coach crossed his name. ... don't play "I don't know what's going on in Iran". If it was about selection based on the stat, then why do we need a coach? we need a statistician.

I just finished watching Brazil's game. Guess who was on the bench? Dani Alvez .... I guess the coach didn't get the memo that he plays in Barcelona.

Cheers,

[Doctor DOOM]

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mmmm second scenario, how much money the author got to make this guy like Ruud van Nistelrooy?

I dont understand the above sentence.
the writer did not make him RVN. he just mentioned the various ways nowroozi has scored his goals (I can vouch for it as I have seen him shoot, head, tap-in, take fk, dribble, ... his goals),
and he also mentioned he is the league's top scorer, which he is
and he mentioned he's scored an unprecedented 24 goals , which is also the truth
his comments on the various leagues' top scorers being overlooked by nat'l team coaches is also another piece of truth

so I cant understand the VNR remark or the notion of "having paid money for this or that"

[Hajagha]

^ Based on the tone of the paper, either the coach or the author must be idiot.

mmmm second scenario, how much money the author got to make this guy like Ruud van Nistelrooy?

I thought we brought this coach to trust, otherwise we had our other coaches to make fun of them.

Cheers,

[Doctor DOOM]

What? No Nowroozi? he isnt even injured to be struck off.
very strange.


پازل تاكتيكي مربيان تيم ملي، گلزن نمي*خواهد
پازل تاكتيكي مربيان تيم ملي، گلزن نمي*خواهد
آرش نوعدوستي
90: با اعلام جديد ليست تيم*ملي توسط كارلوس كي*روش مي*توان نتيجه گرفت كه آقاي گل*هاي ليگ برتر جايي در پازل تاكتيكي مربيان تيم*ملي ندازند. كي*روش ليست جديد خود را براي رويارويي با ماداگاسكار و مالديو اعلام كرد اما در كمال تعجب اثري از نام رضا نوروزي مهاجم 24 گله فولاد خوزستان كه اتفاقا ركورد بسيار جالبي را در تاريخ ليگ برتر بر جاي گذاشته است، نيست.

نوروزي در تيم* استيل*آذين كنار بزرگاني مثل علي كريمي، مهدوي*كيا، فريدون زندي و ... بود اما گلزن قهار نشان داد كه روي ضربات سر و پا تبحر خاصي داشت، او دو فصل هم راهي فولاد خوزستان شد و به زغم اينكه چند ديدار را به دليل آسيب*ديدگي از دست داد، توانست تعداد گلهاي خود را از مرز 24 عبور دهد و صاحب يك ركورد بي*نظير شود. اگر به بازي*هاي فولاد خوزستان دقت كرده باشيد متوجه مي*شويد نوروزي به هر نحوي گلزني كرده، ضربات سر، بغل پا، شوت از راه دور و ضربات ايستگاهي! يعني تخصص اين بازيكن مثل ديگر مهاجمان فقط از موقعيت*هاي بدست آمده، در محوطه جريمه فوتبال نيست بلكه برعكس، او براي خودش نيز ايجاد موقعيت كرده و در زمان بن*بست نيز از ضربات ايستگاهي قفل دروازه حريف را باز كرده است. (نگاهي به 6 گل نوروزي روي ضربات ايستگاهي بياندازيد)
با اين آمار خوب و تخصص در گلزني، يك مهاجم بايد چكار كند تا در ليست تيم ملي باشد؟

البته اگر نگاهي به گلزنان ده دوره ليگ داشته باشيم، به قرباني شدن آقاي گل*ها پي مي*بريم؛ اما واقعا نمي*دانيم چرا در كشورهاي ديگر (حالا از كشورهاي صاحب فوتبال فاكتور مي*گيريم) همواره آقاي گل ليگ جايگاه ويژه*اي در تيم*ملي دارد و از او با توجه به فرصتي كه مي*دهند، به نحو احسن استفاده مي*كنند اما در كشورمان برعكس است.

لازم به ذكر است رضا نوروزي در اردوي اتريش به گواه خود ملي*پوشان يكي از بازيكنان آماده بود و در آخرين ديدار تداركاتي كه تيم* كي*روش از حريف عقب بود، يك گل زد و يك پاس گل داد تا نقش بسزايي در پيروزي تيم ملي داشته باشد.

خلاصه كلام اينكه اميدواريم معظل فوتبال كشورمان نيز برطرف شود يا اينكه خود كي*روش كه يك مربي حرفه*اي است، برطرف كند تا حداقل اين معظل از فوتبال ايران كنار برود و بهايي به آقاي گل ليگ برتر بدهيم.


and here's Nowroozi, himself:

رضا نوروزي مهاجم تيم فوتبال فولاد خوزستان در گفتگو با خبرنگار باشگاه خبرنگاران افزود: كي روش سرمربي تيم در دعوت نكردنم سليقه اي عمل كرد، زيرا هيچ مشكلي از لحاظ فني و مصدوميت ندارم و به نظرم هر وقت در بازيهاي تداركاتي تيم در اتريش به زمين مسابقه رفتم جزو نفرات برتر بودم و حتي يك گل هم زدم.
نوروزي در خصوص وضعيت تيم ملي در اردوي اتريش اظهار داشت: سطح تمرين دادن كي روش در اردوي اتريش نسبت به مربيان داخلي بسيار محسوس بود و بازيهاي دوستانه مناسبي هم براي مصاف با مالديو از سوي مسئولان فوتبال تدارك داده شد و در كل اردوي آماده سازي بسيار خوبي بود. وي خاطرنشان كرد: با تمرينات مستمر در تيم فولاد خوزستان سعي مي كنم در ليگ يازدهم مثمر ثمر باشم و مانند فصل گذشته از آقاي گلي خود دفاع كنم و دوباره نظر كي روش را براي دعوت شدنم به تيم ملي جلب كنم

I'm willing to bet if he, asthe league's top scorer, was a part of those two shitty, good for nothing blue/red teams, the media would have created a living hell for quieroz with offensive article after article!

[BacheLot]

so whats the biggest surprise or possible big mistake drop amongst the final 24 cut..?

[zzgloo]

We have ourseleves a good coach !

I counted all photos from Austria's camp.....about 100....
In more than 75 of them , you can see Queiroz......
In only 5 out of 75 photos with Queiroz in it, he is just watching....
in other 70 ,he has the body language in which he is teaching something......
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Never have I seen such hands on coach before.......
It appears he is setting up his system,and it is unlike what players used to do........

[St_Mark]

sheet and shuffling the deck.

Pouladi as LB
Dehnavi as LB
Mahini as RB
Montazeri as CB
Both Hossein & Pejman have experience in new position but for Dehnavi and Pouladi this is their first time.
Trying a 30 years old player for the first time in TM in a position he has never played before is not consistent with claims of giving chance to young players.
Why not Queiroz play LB himself ?

[BacheLot]

[quote=Doctor DOOM;1783795]

are you aerious ... or are you joking?
coz I can name hadadifar + mobaali who cover all sorts of playmaking necessities with long range as well as short range feeds, tackling and defensive work and combative duties at both left and right flanks, with both feet. not to mention long range shooting and freekick taking abilities.

but I think you were joking, so I'd say: umm ... errrr .... ahem .... errrr...

Well the 2 for 1 deal was a bit of exaggeration to pinpoint the sad Fact that He Still is the best Overall Footballer in that entire roster in the camp..!

& overall I'd have to agree with Hadi..! Most of the players in that camp are not much more than a bunch of overrated, overpaid Average talented footballers..! Sure they are better than the garbage found in below average neighboring Arab nations, but not really a class above..!
Still combined we certainly have enough talent to qualify out of AFC to WC..! So anything short of that would be a major disappointment from a coach of CQ..!
Btw
I Think we should stick it out with Haj Safi as the starting LB in TM & only try Mahini & few others as possible replacements..! RB & LB are 2 of the most demanding positions in today's modern football considering the high level of offensive contributions expected from WingBacks in today's formations & tactics..! It takes a lot of time on the position to finally come up with a perfected one & we have already wares a bunch games on this highly promising young lad..! We can't keep trying on a new guy every other game & expect a solid option come final WCQ Games..!
I wonder if GR Rezaie can perform half as good on the left wing..! Mahini seems more Promissing Defensively buy don't care for him posing much danger on offense..!