Queiroz selects the roster for the Maldives game

[Doctor DOOM]

mahini hasnt proven himself in TM either (although not given the chance), so we cant assume he will do better than hajisafi. there have been tons of players who did well in the league but fell short in TM (enayati, khatibi, madanchi, kazemian, mobali, borhani, majidi, etc), so whether mahini will do better than hajisafi or not is still to be seen. but for that to happen, he needs to be invited/tested to TM first and this hasnt happened under any of the TM coaches so far.

true.
and I think he ought to be given enough chances to prove himself

[St_Mark]

mahini hasnt proven himself in TM either (although not given the chance), so we cant assume he will do better than hajisafi. there have been tons of players who did well in the league but fell short in TM (enayati, khatibi, madanchi, kazemian, mobali, borhani, majidi, etc), so whether mahini will do better than hajisafi or not is still to be seen. but for that to happen, he needs to be invited/tested to TM first and this hasnt happened under any of the TM coaches so far.

Re: Mahini
I agree regardless of what we think of him, he has to show his value in TM.
I think he is best we got but as you said lets see if TM coach see that too.

A reminder:
He played for TM U23 (Doha) as Right back ( ahead of Heidari), and if i am not wrong as LB for TM U19.
In his clubs he played CD & DM & LB for Esteghlal A and LB for Zobahan.

[St_Mark]

the focus and point of my post was pouladi getting a shot at LB. wat i have seen of him, he is worth a try as LB. we are getting so desperate that i personally would like to see any option which even partially has a chance to be tested.

Dear:
I agree about Mehrdad, just as you i like him and i think he is a valuable player wherever he play. He was our starter even for U19, U23 years back.
I take your point with respect, my view about some of these shifts is that player himself must like, accept new assignment otherwise often it is just temporarily like in case of Nosrati and Zare'.

[yashar_fasihnia]

Dear:
Would that apply to Abdulghasem too?
Nosrati, Satar , Ehsan all were all first tried for LB position at young age while they were playing for U23 ( Nosrati, Satar) or u19 (Hajsafi) but Dehnavi is almost 30 years old. Where would he play?
If at RB why not Hosseini from Zobahan, & if CD why not Talebi ?
I will response to your Pouladi option at later time when/if he actually play for new position.

the focus and point of my post was pouladi getting a shot at LB. wat i have seen of him, he is worth a try as LB. we are getting so desperate that i personally would like to see any option which even partially has a chance to be tested.

[yashar_fasihnia]

I still think the hajsafi experiment as the LB hasnt really paid off yet and he hasnt excelled in it to become our bench mark for success at LB, for us to start comparing other candidates to him.

yes, he surprised us all in AC games and played well. but I think a part of that was because many of us expected so little of him. so much that when he did something acceptable, we perceived it as spectacular!

and mind you, he was back to his old fumbling LB against iraq. so maybe it is worth to keep trying him at LB. but he certainly cannot be the bench mark or measuring stick for that post.

especially when at the moment we have better options than him; mahini

mahini hasnt proven himself in TM either (although not given the chance), so we cant assume he will do better than hajisafi. there have been tons of players who did well in the league but fell short in TM (enayati, khatibi, madanchi, kazemian, mobali, borhani, majidi, etc), so whether mahini will do better than hajisafi or not is still to be seen. but for that to happen, he needs to be invited/tested to TM first and this hasnt happened under any of the TM coaches so far.

[Hadi]

lets face it, we are left with mediocre players.

no longer does our team boast 11 A class Asian players.

our rooster is filled with mediocre players, who earn big money but play little football.

[Doctor DOOM]

if pouladi works out to be as good as hajisafi, then that is a success in my opinion cos now we have more than 2 realistic options we can consider for long run and wat better opportunity than start against easier teams like maldvies and friend matches?

I still think the hajsafi experiment as the LB hasnt really paid off yet and he hasnt excelled in it to become our bench mark for success at LB, for us to start comparing other candidates to him.

yes, he surprised us all in AC games and played well. but I think a part of that was because many of us expected so little of him. so much that when he did something acceptable, we perceived it as spectacular!

and mind you, he was back to his old fumbling LB against iraq. so maybe it is worth to keep trying him at LB. but he certainly cannot be the bench mark or measuring stick for that post.

especially when at the moment we have better options than him; mahini

[Doctor DOOM]

[quote=BacheLot;1783315]

& off course it includes Mighty AK8 who is master @ all those Skills & aspects of the game..!
sadly He is Still The Best overall Footballer in that Enire list..! In fact, pick any two from that list & still, their combined skills falls short of that of The Mighty AK8..!!

are you aerious ... or are you joking?
coz I can name hadadifar + mobaali who cover all sorts of playmaking necessities with long range as well as short range feeds, tackling and defensive work and combative duties at both left and right flanks, with both feet. not to mention long range shooting and freekick taking abilities.

but I think you were joking, so I'd say: umm ... errrr .... ahem .... errrr...

[St_Mark]

lets give quieroz and pouladi a chance hejaz jan.
if nosrati, sattar zare and ehsan hajisafi were all tried as LBs under different coaches, why not pouladi?
he surely is left footed, has a strong physique and is relatively young and has time to adapt to a different position.
he has played DM before or atleast CM before and many times, DMs and/or CMs are used as fullbacks.
in iran, hossein kazemi used to play as a fullback in saipa. even kaebi was not a fullback.
we have also worldknow players like ze roberto who have played LB and DM/CMs. ofcourse,a braziliam international's caliber is much higher than pouladi's but then again, we are so short and poor in fullbacks in iran, that i think its good to give others a chance.
if pouladi works out to be as good as hajisafi, then that is a success in my opinion cos now we have more than 2 realistic options we can consider for long run and wat better opportunity than start against easier teams like maldvies and friend matches?

Dear:
Would that apply to Abdulghasem too?
Nosrati, Satar , Ehsan all were all first tried for LB position at young age while they were playing for U23 ( Nosrati, Satar) or u19 (Hajsafi) but Dehnavi is almost 30 years old. Where would he play?
If at RB why not Hosseini from Zobahan, & if CD why not Talebi ?
I will response to your Pouladi option at later time when/if he actually play for new position.

[yashar_fasihnia]

مدافعان:
خسرو حيدري، حسين ماهيني ، سيد جلال حسيني،هادي عقيلي ،
محمد نصرتي ، پژمان منتظري ، قاسم دهنوي و مهرداد پولادي
I don't care who is the coach, just Dahnavi & Pouladi as TM defenders is not right. These two they have never played as defender, perhaps only in Q's imagination.
TM selection is crazy, from the time (Qutbi) they never acknowledged Mahini to the time (Queiroz) he is only LB in the squad.

lets give quieroz and pouladi a chance hejaz jan.
if nosrati, sattar zare and ehsan hajisafi were all tried as LBs under different coaches, why not pouladi?

he surely is left footed, has a strong physique and is relatively young and has time to adapt to a different position.
he has played DM before or atleast CM before and many times, DMs and/or CMs are used as fullbacks.

in iran, hossein kazemi used to play as a fullback in saipa. even kaebi was not a fullback.

we have also worldknow players like ze roberto who have played LB and DM/CMs. ofcourse,a braziliam international's caliber is much higher than pouladi's but then again, we are so short and poor in fullbacks in iran, that i think its good to give others a chance.

if pouladi works out to be as good as hajisafi, then that is a success in my opinion cos now we have more than 2 realistic options we can consider for long run and wat better opportunity than start against easier teams like maldvies and friend matches?

[Ali Chicago]

That is not so true! There is no so called the "usual way". It all depends on the coach and the depth of players pool.
Even in Iran, you saw how Branko choose his system first and then found the players who can carry on the orders. Many of those players weren't able to keep their name on the roaster when the next guy arrived.

I never meant to imply always. I even start the post with the word "usually", as you yourself said "usual way".

[St_Mark]

مدافعان:
خسرو حيدري، حسين ماهيني ، سيد جلال حسيني،هادي عقيلي ،
محمد نصرتي ، پژمان منتظري ، قاسم دهنوي و مهرداد پولادي

I don't care who is the coach, just Dahnavi & Pouladi as TM defenders is not right. These two they have never played as defender, perhaps only in Q's imagination.

TM selection is crazy, from the time (Qutbi) they never acknowledged Mahini to the time (Queiroz) he is only LB in the squad.

[BacheLot]

[quote]

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The roster has physical players, highly technical players with great ball skills, creative ones, speed & pace as well as wide players to provide the width.

& off course it includes Mighty AK8 who is master @ all those Skills & aspects of the game..!
sadly He is Still The Best overall Footballer in that Enire list..! In fact, pick any two from that list & still, their combined skills falls short of that of The Mighty AK8..!!

[Kavian]

Usually in club level, a coach can choose a system and based on the financial strength of the club can acquire players that fit that system.
In National team usually it works the other way. Coaches choose the system based on what they see as available talent. Of course there is exception always. But generally this is how it works.

That is not so true! There is no so called the "usual way". It all depends on the coach and the depth of players pool.

Even in Iran, you saw how Branko choose his system first and then found the players who can carry on the orders. Many of those players weren't able to keep their name on the roaster when the next guy arrived.

[Kavian]

Frankly for the match with Maldives, you need not to worry too much about who is invited to the team.

CQ needs more time to be able to evaluate his players and arraive at what works for his formation and tactics. There are only 11 sposts on the field and not every good player can play. So, we just have to wait and see what comes next. He needs some good friendlies to be able to do this. I don't see anyone at IFF even thinking about this!