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10-31-2014, 11:05 AM
rugs

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Originally Posted by Arash_1998

Whether you like it or not this is Iran NT and we will have an Iranian coach someday.
Suppose that CQ leave after AC 2015 due to bad results, we do not have to go with an Iranian coach. There are a lot of good coaches in the world that we can hire them with less money (Ex: Jorge Louis Pinto, etc)
Except Ghalenoei and Daei, you could mention Majid Jalali, and Faraki too.
The problem with local coaches was that they did not have the amount of support that CQ had after losses against Lebanon and Uzbekistan, and 3 consecutive draws against Qatar. After home loss against Saudi Arabia in 2009, was not our status like 2013 where we lost to Uzbekistan at home? Why Daei was sack unlike CQ??? We could comeback to the race by winning against North Korea. All countries that had our status in 2009 supported their coach until the end (Argentina and Portugal) and they qualified to the WC 2010 but we sacked Daei and missed qualification. Or If Ghalenoei have continued after AC 2007 we could do better than what happened after that. Note that I believe it was a little early for Daei and Ghalenoei to be national coach and that was federation fault.
Anyway, my point is that we will have an Iranian coach someday because this is Iran NT.

Faith. There was no faith in the coaching abilities of Daei or GN.

When Daei invites players from Saipa and GN invites SS players who don't deserve to be in TM, and then they lose, people will question whether or not they are worthy of being NT team managers. There is no room from domestic football politics in TM, but neither Daei nor GN could stay away from that.
10-31-2014, 11:09 AM
Abtin

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Originally Posted by saadat_abad

LOLOL bro ur so naive . just cause some members here say we played against portuguese club b teams u believe them? cmon man.
cq does not like to play against big known teams and he has said that 1000 times! get it through ur heads people. yeah by u saying cq should be thrown out ur basically saying bring in qn or daie because they are the quickest replacements!

Naive khodeti. I just said he make weird decisions when it comes to friendlies, go back and watch my original post before you quote me. Nor did I say he should leave, even if TM does bad in Australia.
10-31-2014, 11:10 AM
M.U.F.C

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Originally Posted by saadat_abad

bro! are you seriously comparing CQ to daie and GN? duuuude just look at the resumes . why was daie even appointed as the NT coach in the first place?? answer that. we didnt sack CQ after the Lebanon loss because we played great but lost! their goalie turned into neuer . they won that game with luck! they didnt play better than us. YES EVEN IRAN GETS UNLUCLY SOMETIMES AND LOSES.
i didnt mention faraki or jalili because they arent even up to standards to coach a national team . the only iranian coach that will be deserving in the years to come to become the headcoach is hashemian . why? because he is taking the right steps to become a coach. he isnt taking shortcuts and dalal bazi to become a coach

Did u even read my comment completely????? Read my comment completely and you will get your answers for bolded part ( I mentioned it was early for Daei and GN to get that job and that was federation fault but when they were appointed they should have been supported until the end like Maradona in Argentina, CQ in portugal of 2009)

Japan had a Japanese coach in WC 2010 and we saw what they did. Suppose that CQ was coach of Japan in WC 2010. Could they get those results?? No way. Many factors are important for success of a coach in a team like resume of the coach, culture of the country that the coach came from, etc

CQ is only a name IMO no quality compare to many good coaches in the world. I do not count his work in Man United as a resume because I only care about the performance as a head coach which he proofed in most teams that he is not a good head coach. You did not mention Uzbek game. Was not CQ results exactly like Daei if we do not count CQ results after home loss against Uzbek?? Daei and local coaches needs to be supported more. When South Korea, North Korea, Japan are successful with local coaches we can.
It was your idea about GN, Jalali, Faraki but many Iranian football experts are against your idea like Dariush Mostafavi, Abedini, Mayeli Kohan, etc.

Anyway I am going to my class now but I say this again whether you like or not we will have Iranian coach someday because this is Iran NT.
10-31-2014, 11:15 AM
saadat_abad

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Originally Posted by Abtin

Naive khodeti. I just said he make weird decisions when it comes to friendlies, go back and watch my original post before you quote me. Nor did I say he should leave, even if TM does bad in Australia.

abtin jan, what do you think this means? "Well, we are an Asian powerhouse, we need good opposition. Maybe he should go and coach an tokhmi team instead?"
10-31-2014, 11:17 AM
saadat_abad

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Originally Posted by Arash_1998

Did u even read my comment completely????? Read my comment completely and you will get your answers for bolded part ( I mentioned it was early for Daei and GN to get that job and that was federation fault but when they were appointed they should have been supported until the end like Maradona in Argentina, CQ in portugal of 2009)

Japan had a Japanese coach in WC 2010 and we saw what they did. Suppose that CQ was coach of Japan in WC 2010. Could they get those results?? No way. Many factors are important for success of a coach in a team like resume of the coach, culture of the country that the coach came from, etc

CQ is only a name IMO no quality compare to many good coaches in the world. I do not count his work in Man United as a resume because I only care about the performance as a head coach which he proofed in most teams that he is not a good head coach. You did not mention Uzbek game. Was not CQ results exactly like Daei if we do not count CQ results after home loss against Uzbek?? Daei and local coaches needs to be supported more. When South Korea, North Korea, Japan are successful with local coaches we can.
It was your idea about GN, Jalali, Faraki but many Iranian football experts are against your idea like Dariush Mostafavi, Abedini, Mayeli Kohan, etc.

Anyway I am going to my class now but I say this again whether you like or not we will have Iranian coach someday because this is Iran NT.

im gonna keep it short cause u have to go to class. you said "CQ is only a name IMO" Correct , its ur opinion . i have mine and urs so bodo class.
10-31-2014, 11:18 AM
sarbaz

We are beggers so we should not be choosers

at this point is way too late to set up any other friendlies so I say this if and if we can keep the ^ friendly games that we got coming
without any cancelations,it is a good preparation for the AC
10-31-2014, 11:21 AM
Abtin

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Originally Posted by saadat_abad

abtin jan, what do you think this means? "Well, we are an Asian powerhouse, we need good opposition. Maybe he should go and coach an tokhmi team instead?"

What do you think "maybe" means? Aren't we an Asian powerhouse? Last time I checked, WE were in the world cup, and not the tokhmi nations. But yet, they play national teams, and guess who don't..
Hence my original post: His CHOICES are weird. NEVER did I say an Iranian coach would be better, as you all started an attack with.
10-31-2014, 11:25 AM
saadat_abad

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Originally Posted by Abtin

What do you think "maybe" means? Aren't we an Asian powerhouse? Last time I checked, WE were in the world cup, and not the tokhmi nations. But yet, they play national teams, and guess who don't..
Hence my original post: His CHOICES are weird. NEVER did I say an Iranian coach would be better, as you all started an attack with.

dude it seems ur more butthurt that arab teams are playing great friendlies and we arent. ok they are playing uruguay , brazil , germany and other top notch teams . why should we care? as you said we are an ASIAN POWERHOUSE right? and they arent. we play clubs and low ranked african teams and e make the wc but they play great friendlies and dont. dont you want to make the wc? make the final in the Australia ? i suggest we let cq do what he is doing and wait for the result
10-31-2014, 11:28 AM
Abtin

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Originally Posted by saadat_abad

dude it seems ur more butthurt that arab teams are playing great friendlies and we arent. ok they are playing uruguay , brazil , germany and other top notch teams . why should we care? as you said we are an ASIAN POWERHOUSE right? and they arent. we play clubs and low ranked african teams and e make the wc but they play great friendlies and dont. dont you want to make the wc? make the final in the Australia ? i suggest we let cq do what he is doing and wait for the result

Wow, and where do you think that development will take us? With our whole NT joining Al tokhmi teams, may God help us.
I'm not bikar and will end it here. You go write a book about CQ's excellent choices and how we will forever be able to beat tokhmi teams when this trend will continue..
How shall we develop when we keep playing teams that can give us NO opposition?
10-31-2014, 11:31 AM
saadat_abad

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Originally Posted by Abtin

Wow, and where do you think that development will take us? With our whole NT joining Al tokhmi teams, may God help us.
I'm not bikar and will end it here. You go write a book about CQ's excellent choices and how we will forever be able to beat tokhmi teams when this trend will continue..

haha i love how you sneak the word bikar in ur post. bro i hope you change the way you think about iranian soccer! i was once like you and wanted to watch iran play every single day. once you come to realize that that will never happen .. you will get it
what do we gain when we play powerhouse european and south american team? nothing! all we do is defend ! and the last time i checked we are great at defending. we need to work on our offense and playing clubs and weaker international teams will help us improve. will it not? be honest

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