Originally posted by Karimi_1
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Damn that sucks. Well at least he made it to the final I guess
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Why did he try to strike with one of the most feared strikers in MMA history. He should have gone to his grappling, he made cro cop defensive. He doesn't have the best wrestling defence and he was a lot lighter than amir. He played right into his game. But he is still new to the sport, and great job making it to the final. Proud of him regardless but I wish he had better people in his corner, the game plan should have been a lot different. Sad to see him get knocked out.
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--Moharrami----Hosseini--Kanaani----Amiri--
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--Jahanbaksh---------Ghoddos------------Taremi--
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Amir is a good wrestler but unfortunately the problem is lack of experience. He is competing with professional fighters and some of them probably have alot of amateur fights before turning pro.
Khabib nurmagomedov, Daniel Cormier and Brock Lesnar are three really good wrestlers in the UFC. They easily take their opponents down and keep them there for 3 rounds. Amir on the other hand did not have a clear gameplan after the takedown. His Ground and pound must improve.
But the truth is; a win against Heath Herring, a win against a nobody from Russia and a loss against a 42-year old Mirko is not going to take him anywhere.Comment
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Its ok he lost, hes verrrry new to this game and still made the final which is a huge achievement. He needs more fights under his belt to understand how to deal with various fighters. Proud of him for making it this far.Comment
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This was a GREAT experience for Amir. Amir is very, very new to the game (15 months he's been training with zero amateur MMA background - *incredibly important to know this. Most people fight a few years before getting into professional circuit, Amir just leapfrogged straight into the trenches. Which is impressive). The fact he was able to face a time tested and one of the best strikers ever in Cro Cop. Do not let the 42 year old age delude you - Cro Cop is still an excellent and world class fighter with incredible striking/power and great take-down defense. If he's able to knock out King Mo, who as mentioned is probably the best fighter in the world outside UFC, then you know he's great. Heath Herring is a guy that Brock Lesnar couldn't even stop in normal time, he just eats punchs but someone forgot to tell Amir that. He needed a better game-plan than suplexing and exerting so much energy. Moldavsky will be a name we hear again in the Light Heavyweight talk - he's a good prospect and trains with Fedor.
I would like to see him change gyms. If he stays in the AKA circuit, he needs to head to San Jose - if he can get visa and travel issues fixed. AKA is known for intense sparring and having injured fighters come to fight night. He needs to work a bit more on his striking - he packs power but needs to improve accuracy & cardio. Apparently his boxing coach isn't a notable one at all (he's Iranian) - so he needs to replace him. 3 fights in 3 days is very difficult for a power fighter like Amir. This tournament structure did not benefit him at all and most MMA fights do not have this format.
Amir didn't win this tournament because of a lack of experience and he was up against an experienced fighter who is also one of the best heavyweights/ light heavyweights of all time. But Amir is still an incredible prospect and this was a great experience for him. Even McGregor, Jon Jones have lost - champions are those who pick themselves up and learn from their experience. Staying undefeated in MMA is unheard of - this isn't boxing. You always fight the best, all the time.Comment
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All pretty much true. Except Jon Jones hasn't lost. He was DQed for an elbow. His opponent was a pussy who used it to get out of the fight. I hate Jones, but hes a machine.Originally posted by Tehranto View Post
Amir definitely needs to come State side if he wants to improve. AKA Thailand is ok for the Asian game but that's about it. Amir's stand up is awful. He has no jab, and just depends on slow thundering hooks. A really good stand up fighter with good take down defense will pick him apart. Cro Cop didnt even use kicks and he KOed him."Formerly known as AliDaeiClone"Comment
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I know Jon Jones "lost" on b.s. technicality. My point was, everyone loses at some point in this game, some have been given horrible reffing decisions - Jones has taken a lot of Ls outside the octagon. It's adversity and he needs to use it to build himself up, not tear himself down. BTW, Jon Jones is the greatest MMA fighter of all time.Originally posted by AliDaeiClone View Post
Very true. As McGregor says, in this game, it's accuracy over speed and power. Thank God, Amir got into this game at a relatively younger age. He has time to build on his incredible foundation.Comment
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Anyone have highlights of the final?Comment
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There were no highlights. Just imagine a big tree falling over.Originally posted by EKBATAN View Post"Formerly known as AliDaeiClone"Comment
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Saying Cro Cop is one of the best (light)Heavyweights is a bit far fetched.. he had a good year in 2006 (winning from Barnett and Wanderlei) entered the UFC and pretty much lost all meaningful fights. He's a better kickboxer than a MMA fighter.
Also at this point he's noway near the top 10 best heavyweights.
That all being said, with proper training Amir definitely can become a decent UFC fighter.
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Cro Cop is not even top 20. But he's the worst matchup for Amir. A dangerous kickboxer with good take down defense.Originally posted by Babak agha View Post"Formerly known as AliDaeiClone"Comment
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Another thing to also mention: as I was watching these matches, I couldn't help but notice that the ring style (as compared to the octagon cage style) was a determent for Amir. Then I read a comment on Sherdog that made this same point. Beasts like Lesnar and Cormier, with wrestling pedigrees, use their wrestling in cage environments very well because they are able to press their opponents against the cage and they cannot really uncork themselves out of there easily - whereas in the ring, since there is no such structure to keep them pinned in, they can free themselves easier. I think Amir does much better in a cage environment than the ring ones used by the now defunct Pride, Rizin etc. (Japan).
Also, the inability to use elbows in this tournament in ground and pounds, hurt him as well. Nothing like elbow shots in a ground and pound.
I think that CroCop is generally being underestimated - but even at that, he's still the worst kind of match up for Amir. That's why Amir needs to add more to his arsenal including submission grappling and crisper boxing - because if his opponent can strike well, can handle blows and has excellent takedown, Amir in his current state is in trouble.Originally posted by AliDaeiClone View PostComment
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Why didn't they let them use elbow in the final anyways? Kind of stupid--------------------------Beiranvand-------------------
--Moharrami----Hosseini--Kanaani----Amiri--
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--Jahanbaksh---------Ghoddos------------Taremi--
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They decide on the rules ahead of time. You don't want to switch rules mid tournament because you train in a certain way and instincts kick in. Elbows are usually banned in tournaments because they cause cuts.Originally posted by Karimi 8 View Post"Formerly known as AliDaeiClone"Comment
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It wasn't like Amir was in any position to use elbows on Cro Cop.
Also with his ground and pound not being top notch, I doubt he would use the elbow much anyways.
All in all he has a long way to go still, it's no surprise that he's one of the best wrestlers out there, but he's lacking in all other areas.Comment
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