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  • KC McElroy
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    Originally posted by rugs View Post
    Blood was not a measurement under Swedish law for him to be Swedish.
    That doesn't change facts. If a law passes in the US that a cow is in fact a dog, I will still see it not being a dog.

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  • rugs
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    Originally posted by KC McElroy View Post
    Not the country whose blood he has.
    Blood was not a measurement under Swedish law for him to be Swedish.

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  • KC McElroy
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    Originally posted by rugs View Post
    You would. But Zlatan lined up for his own country.
    Not the country whose blood he has.

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  • rugs
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    Originally posted by Mort Nejad View Post
    http://www.7msport.com/video/20120229/81.shtml
    "I think that is an old story. Even Bosnia, they were speaking that I would play for them, but, my mother is born in Croatia and my father in Bosnia, but I'm born in Sweden, I'm a hundred per cent Swedish. I represent Sweden with big honour, so I don't think there was any moment that someone asked me if I would play for Croatia or Bosnia, So I don't think this was a question for me. I never think about it because it was not a question for me."
    I'm not taking any sides here but Ibrahimovic says^ he never even considered Bosnia or Croatia. Doesn't say anywhere Bosnia didn't want him.
    He's saying that know, I think it's his ego. But his father initially took him to Bosnia but the BiH federation rejected him. Then once he got famous they invited him to play on their B team but it was more of an insult than a real invite. Post war Bosnia was struggling with identity and a lot of people in the country had a hatred/jealousy of Bosnian's abroad. Not to mention a very corrupt football federation. Think of all the people in Iran who were against Zandi or Dejagah or even Beitashur. Those people were in charge of the BiH federation at the time.

    Here are a few articles. One's in swedish but tells the story, the other in english with a small part about it.



    By Daria Sito-Sucic SARAJEVO (Reuters) - Bosnia's international footballers have offered their political leaders a valuable lesson: see what you can achieve when you set aside your ethnic divisions. Last week the national football side won a place at the World Cup finals for the first time, two years after Bosnia was briefly suspended from international competition for letting ethnic politics pervade the sport. Under a reformed football federation, Bosnia automatically qualified for Brazil next year on the same night as some much bigger names in the European game - Spain, England and Russia. ...


    Crucial decisions were fumbled. One example was the missed opportunity to recruit Zlatan Ibrahimovic, one of Europe's top stars who now plays for French side Paris Saint-Germain.

    Near the start of his career, his Bosnian-born father said he wanted Zlatan to play for the national side. No one from the federation pursued the possibility, former officials and local media say, and now the striker captains Sweden, the country of his birth.

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  • rugs
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    Originally posted by KC McElroy View Post
    TM doesn't want me but that doesn't mean I will line up for another country's national team. If I did, I too would be a sell out.
    You would. But Zlatan lined up for his own country.

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  • Mort Nejad
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    Originally posted by rugs View Post
    He didn't sell out, Bosnia didn't want him.

    And since he was born in Sweden, according to Swedish law and FIFA regulations he is Swedish as well and can play for Sweden.
    http://www.7msport.com/video/20120229/81.shtml

    "I think that is an old story. Even Bosnia, they were speaking that I would play for them, but, my mother is born in Croatia and my father in Bosnia, but I'm born in Sweden, I'm a hundred per cent Swedish. I represent Sweden with big honour, so I don't think there was any moment that someone asked me if I would play for Croatia or Bosnia, So I don't think this was a question for me. I never think about it because it was not a question for me."

    I'm not taking any sides here but Ibrahimovic says^ he never even considered Bosnia or Croatia. Doesn't say anywhere Bosnia didn't want him.

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  • GoIran
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    Congrats France. Wouldn't feel right not having them in the World Cup.

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  • Zamboor
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    Originally posted by PERSIANMAFIA View Post
    the only one who doesn't sing national anthem
    hatman mitarse yebaye vasatesh ba soroose bosni ya croati ghati kone
    The only reason is because the song is for him. He is Sweden! They are singing for him about him and only him!

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  • PSGman#19
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    FIFA delayed the Ballon d'or until 29th of november, so that CR7 can win it. What a scandal is these FIFA joke. the play offs will be > than the rest of the year.

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  • KC McElroy
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    Originally posted by rugs View Post
    He didn't sell out, Bosnia didn't want him.

    And since he was born in Sweden, according to Swedish law and FIFA regulations he is Swedish as well and can play for Sweden.
    TM doesn't want me but that doesn't mean I will line up for another country's national team. If I did, I too would be a sell out.

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  • KC McElroy
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    Originally posted by PERSIANMAFIA View Post
    the only one who doesn't sing national anthem
    hatman mitarse yebaye vasatesh ba soroose bosni ya croati ghati kone
    At least he has some pride in his motherland left.

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  • PERSIANMAFIA
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    FIFA investigating Simunic chant

    20 November 2013




    FIFA are investigating Josip Simunic's controversial celebrations after Croatia secured their place at the World Cup finals.
    The defender took to the microphone on the pitch after the 2-0 play-off win over Iceland at the Maksimir Stadium in Zagreb on Tuesday night and chanted "For the homeland!", to which fans responded "Ready!".

    That was the cry used by the Croatian pro-Nazi puppet regime called the Ustashas, who ruled the state when thousands of people were killed in concentration camps during World War II.

    Reports suggest Simunic could be disciplined by FIFA and the world governing body confirmed they are looking into the incident.
    A FIFA spokesperson told Perform: "We are in the process of analysing the different match officials' reports and gathering information. We cannot comment further for the time being."
    Australia-born Simunic, 35, was initially quoted as saying: "Some people have to learn some history. I'm not afraid."
    However, the Dinamo Zagreb centre-back later released a statement through his club's official website denying any wrong-doing.
    His statement said: "The thought that someone could put me in the context of hate speech is terrible to me.
    "I don't want to be pathetic, but as a Croat raised outside his homeland, I associate 'home', love, warmth and positive struggle. Maksimir, Zagreb, Croatia - that's my home.
    "If anyone understood me in a different, negative way, I hereby dismiss any political context of my words."
    Goals from Mario Mandzukic - who was also sent off - and Dario Srna sealed Croatia's passage to Brazil after the first leg had finished goalless.

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  • rugs
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    Originally posted by KC McElroy View Post
    The Bosnian should shut his mouth and realize that he could have been in the World Cup had he not sold out. If he has anything to say he should have said it on the field against Portugal.
    He didn't sell out, Bosnia didn't want him.

    And since he was born in Sweden, according to Swedish law and FIFA regulations he is Swedish as well and can play for Sweden.

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  • PERSIANMAFIA
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    Originally posted by KC McElroy View Post
    The Bosnian should shut his mouth and realize that he could have been in the World Cup had he not sold out. If he has anything to say he should have said it on the field against Portugal.
    the only one who doesn't sing national anthem
    hatman mitarse yebaye vasatesh ba soroose bosni ya croati ghati kone

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  • KC McElroy
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    Originally posted by PERSIANMAFIA View Post
    World Cup is nothing without me' - Ibrahimovic

    Following Sweden's defeat to Portugal in a World Cup play-off the attacker made the incredible claim that Brazil 2014 will not be worth watching now that he is not involved

    Sweden international Zlatan Ibrahimovic has made a startling assertion that the 2014 World Cup will not be worth watching following his side's elimination from the play-offs because he will not be there.

    Ibrahimovic could not prevent his side's hopes of making it to Brazil from being dashed despite scoring a double, as Cristiano Ronaldo stole the show with an outstanding hat-trick to win the match for Portugal in the second leg play-off 3-2 (4-2 on aggregate).

    The 32-year-old, who admits it might be his last attempt to reach a World Cup, says the major tournament being held next June will not be worth following now that he will not be involved.

    "It was probably the last attempt to reach the World Cup with the national team for me. One thing is for sure, a World Cup without me is nothing to watch so it is not worth while to wait for the World Cup," he said to his app Zlatan unplugged.

    "Congratulations to Portugal, but both teams deserved to get to the World Cup.

    "The disappointment of course is great now that the World Cup in Brazil will remain a dream for the Swedish national team."




    The Bosnian should shut his mouth and realize that he could have been in the World Cup had he not sold out. If he has anything to say he should have said it on the field against Portugal.

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