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  • PSGman#19
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    Originally posted by KC McElroy View Post
    I couldn't have said it better myself.

    I'd like to see some of these counter arguments pop up the next time we play qatar. Or the next time a PFDC member born and living outside Iran and having never set foot in Iran claims he is Iranian.
    Do you have an US passport?

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  • KC McElroy
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    Originally posted by rugs View Post
    A cow is a given name for an animal, so is gav and baghareh. If you call it dog, you are changing its name, not the animal.

    The Chilean Sea Bass example I gave already shows that you can change the name of an animal.

    That being said, you can disagree with the law and you can call Zlatan Bosnian, but it doesn't change the fact that he is Swedish.
    I couldn't have said it better myself.

    I'd like to see some of these counter arguments pop up the next time we play qatar. Or the next time a PFDC member born and living outside Iran and having never set foot in Iran claims he is Iranian.

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  • KC McElroy
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    Originally posted by rugs View Post
    Actually electricity is not. It is in nature.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electri..._natural_world
    An electric outlet is an invention. So is a bullet, knife, samurai sword and machete. If ever a law comes out that says these items will not hurt you, I will disagree with it and stick with reality.

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  • rugs
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    Originally posted by KC McElroy View Post
    So is electricity. Now let me see if you will stick your finger in an outlet as you don't consider it reality.
    Actually electricity is not. It is in nature.


    Electricity is not a human invention, and may be observed in several forms in nature, a prominent manifestation of which is lightning.

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  • rugs
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    Originally posted by KC McElroy View Post
    The law does not apply to facts. A cow is not a dog regardless of what the law says. I may obey the law and call a cow a dog when the law questions me, but it doesn't mean I agree with it. I'm not saying I will fight and draft petitions to make sure the Bosnian guy never wears a Swedish jersey again, however, I will acknowledge that he is not in fact Swedish as he has no Swedish blood.
    A cow is a given name for an animal, so is gav and baghareh. If you call it dog, you are changing its name, not the animal.

    The Chilean Sea Bass example I gave already shows that you can change the name of an animal.

    That being said, you can disagree with the law and you can call Zlatan Bosnian, but it doesn't change the fact that he is Swedish.

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  • KC McElroy
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    Originally posted by ali alipour View Post
    Countries are determined by land borders. How can blood come from land?
    I could ask the same question about man boobs.

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  • ali alipour
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    Countries are determined by land borders. How can blood come from land?

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  • KC McElroy
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    Originally posted by Zamboor View Post
    Dude -_- Nationalities are something created by mankind.
    So is electricity. Now let me see if you will stick your finger in an outlet as you don't consider it reality.

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  • Zamboor
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    Originally posted by KC McElroy View Post
    The blood type was an example to show how rules don't change reality.
    Dude -_- Nationalities are something created by mankind.

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  • KC McElroy
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    Originally posted by Zamboor View Post
    Iranians all got diffrent kind of blood types what blood type is Iranians, should the rest not play for Iran, lets say Ali Karimi got AB+ and everyone else got A is karimi iranian or everyone else
    The blood type was an example to show how rules don't change reality.

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  • Zamboor
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    Originally posted by KC McElroy View Post
    Boys and girls are different kinds of humans. Can you switch from one to the other just because you decided to? A better example of course would be red and white blood types. Could you declare your A blood type B simply because you have been living around people with B blood time for a while?
    Iranians all got diffrent kind of blood types what blood type is Iranians, should the rest not play for Iran, lets say Ali Karimi got AB+ and everyone else got A is karimi iranian or everyone else

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  • KC McElroy
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    Originally posted by Zamboor View Post
    Cows and dogs are two different kind of animals. Me and Zlatan are both Human. Hence the fact he can be as much swedish as anyone else and so can i.
    Boys and girls are different kinds of humans. Can you switch from one to the other just because you decided to? A better example of course would be red and white blood types. Could you declare your A blood type B simply because you have been living around people with B blood time for a while?

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  • KC McElroy
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    Originally posted by rugs View Post
    Maybe you will maybe you won't, but the law is what's important. When the US passed a law and said that the Patagonian toothfish was now called Chilean Sea Bass, everyone listened and called it by its new name.

    That said, under Swedish law and Fifa requirements, Zlatan is Swedish. If people don't like it they can try to change the law. Until then the law is to be followed.
    The law does not apply to facts. A cow is not a dog regardless of what the law says. I may obey the law and call a cow a dog when the law questions me, but it doesn't mean I agree with it. I'm not saying I will fight and draft petitions to make sure the Bosnian guy never wears a Swedish jersey again, however, I will acknowledge that he is not in fact Swedish as he has no Swedish blood.

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  • Zamboor
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    Cows and dogs are two different kind of animals. Me and Zlatan are both Human. Hence the fact he can be as much swedish as anyone else and so can i.

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  • rugs
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    Originally posted by KC McElroy View Post
    That doesn't change facts. If a law passes in the US that a cow is in fact a dog, I will still see it not being a dog.
    Maybe you will maybe you won't, but the law is what's important. When the US passed a law and said that the Patagonian toothfish was now called Chilean Sea Bass, everyone listened and called it by its new name.

    That said, under Swedish law and Fifa requirements, Zlatan is Swedish. If people don't like it they can try to change the law. Until then the law is to be followed.

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