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when me or anyone else denied that, then i find this part of ur post usefulOriginally posted by The Joker View PostI don't think so my friend. Real Madrid are more successful club than bayern munich no doubt. We all have seen in CL history and we are the owner of this. We have won nine times CL and no one have won more than nine times my friend.
nope. we have better head to head record with u, and have made some champions league records against u. bayern is reals daddy until real changes this..that is , IF real change thatOriginally posted by The Joker View PostSo we are Champions Leagues daddy and this means that we are your daddy so stop talk trash even if you have better records than us.
after all those posts between me, nima and suprah, this is the conclusion u reached to. all i can say is, only someone like u or ur mentor, milad can reach to such kind of a conclusion...Originally posted by The Joker View PostYou are just shit without Ribery and as milad jan said: "A one man team with ribery"
we lost those 2 games without sagnol as well. so please ask ur mentor, milad to make newtons 4th law about this fact as well, so u can blindly follow it as wellOriginally posted by The Joker View PostWell no wonder you have lost your second straight game in bundesliga without ribery lol

this is the highlight of all ur posts and arguments. this should establish ur credibility in ur arguments.Originally posted by The Joker View PostI don't think germans have fighting spirit lol.
i want everyone to read and see it for themselves
im glad UR GERMAN coach was able to teach some of that gheyrat to ur teamOriginally posted by The Joker View PostSpain is much better.
even in our most horrendous era, which was 2 years back, when bayern finished 4th and failed to qualify for champions league, that same time, the champions league of the previous year was going on still and we had lost ballack to chelsea. even that time, we kicked ur @$$ and embarassed u (AS USUALOriginally posted by The Joker View PostAnd I really doubt if you guys are better than us today (not the past). Even if you have better records I really hope we meet in CL soon, very soon. I can't wait for that day to embarrass bayern munich. We have revenge to take against Bayern Munich if we meet them later in CL.
)!!! forget about losing to hannover or bremen, that time, we couldnt even qualify to ACL!! our team was in its poorest form since decades!!
i dunno why people tend to stick to speculations and fantasies when they got hardcore results and stats in front of them
so i find it really appropriate to mentiont his farsi phrase now...
"arezoo bar javanan eyb nist...." keep waiting for that day to come my friend just like im waiting for the day i become a millionaire
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Guest repliedYou already have made excuses lol. What do you expect from a bayern fan?!Originally posted by yashar_fasihnia View Postexactly. our friends here who are really trying hard to prove a point seem to have forgotten the first few days of schuster as their coach and how many wanted to get rid of him
they yet have to realize that not every team in the world has the "galactica" mentality of real madrid 
that being said, this bayern team is the pass/fail test for klinsman.
the quality is there in the squad, definitely. its even stronger than the squad of teams like roma,juve and liverpool!! its time to see whether klinsman really is as good as his german national team in world cup 2006 proved or not... the problem could be the coaching staff afterall...
however, its too soon to judge klinsman, and such losses and mediocre performances are expected of any team in the beginnng....
since champions league is our biggest goal, im glad these losses are coming before the champions league. it will only reveal the teams flaws and weak points earlier to the coaching staff and hopefully, they can rectify that.
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Guest repliedI don't think so my friend. Real Madrid are more successful club than bayern munich no doubt. We all have seen in CL history and we are the owner of this. We have won nine times CL and no one have won more than nine times my friend. So we are Champions Leagues daddy and this means that we are your daddy so stop talk trash even if you have better records than us. You are just shit without Ribery and as milad jan said: "A one man team with ribery"Originally posted by yashar_fasihnia View Postobviously i will say that. there is no doubt about that and i will always repeat it because its true. results speak for themselves. so until real madrid can change those results in its own favour (dar khaab
), its gonna remain this way and i know it hurts but its the truth 
well u said bayern has no fighthing spirit. i said, if one thing germans are known for in football, its fighting spirit, much more than spain.
bala beri, payin biyay, bayern is real madrids daddy. end of story
Well no wonder you have lost your second straight game in bundesliga without ribery lol
I don't think germans have fighting spirit lol. Spain is much better. And I really doubt if you guys are better than us today (not the past). Even if you have better records I really hope we meet in CL soon, very soon. I can't wait for that day to embarrass bayern munich. We have revenge to take against Bayern Munich if we meet them later in CL.
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damn I see that Yashar is slapping all these anti-bayern clowns one by one and putting them in their place....damet garm Yashar jan, vali ziad khodeto dargir enaa nakon....The reality of the matter is that some people dislike Bayern so much only out of fear and the possibility of their favorite team facing Bayern in the quarters or later stages of the CL and that just scares the hell out of them...
Anyways, Bayern has always been and will always be the only team in Europe that with minimum budget can stay on the top and teach these so called big boys of europe with the millions the spend on their so called stars, a lesson in the game.
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Guest repliedremember, its not how you start, its how you finish.Originally posted by yashar_fasihnia View Post
however, its too soon to judge klinsman, and such losses and mediocre performances are expected of any team in the beginnng....
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Originally posted by IranSoccer#8 View Postlahm, podolski, and altintop were all on the players of the tournament squad for euro 2008. bayern is a very good team, but they have new coach, new tactics, and it takes awhile for things to get going. But im sure with the quality they have, we will see very beautiful football in the coming months.
exactly. our friends here who are really trying hard to prove a point seem to have forgotten the first few days of schuster as their coach and how many wanted to get rid of him
they yet have to realize that not every team in the world has the "galactica" mentality of real madrid 
that being said, this bayern team is the pass/fail test for klinsman.
the quality is there in the squad, definitely. its even stronger than the squad of teams like roma,juve and liverpool!! its time to see whether klinsman really is as good as his german national team in world cup 2006 proved or not... the problem could be the coaching staff afterall...
however, its too soon to judge klinsman, and such losses and mediocre performances are expected of any team in the beginnng....
since champions league is our biggest goal, im glad these losses are coming before the champions league. it will only reveal the teams flaws and weak points earlier to the coaching staff and hopefully, they can rectify that.
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Football isnt always about skill or fancy footwork. You need the work horses and right attitude to succeed at the top level. Someone like Jermaine Pennant is what mediocre is.Originally posted by Kaebi View Posto'shea and fletcher are the definition of mediocre, if it wasn't for their attitude and workrate, they'd both be playing in championship
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Guest repliedlahm, podolski, and altintop were all on the players of the tournament squad for euro 2008. bayern is a very good team, but they have new coach, new tactics, and it takes awhile for things to get going. But im sure with the quality they have, we will see very beautiful football in the coming months.Originally posted by yashar_fasihnia View Postahan, so now u reach my point which was : ribery is the most influential player in the team, but it doesnt mean bayern is a one man team.
wat about toni? klose? schweinsteiger? lahm?? ze roberto? altintop?? van bommel?? podolski? sagnol?? oddo? lucio?? demichelis???
none of them are quality players? all play for the top national teams of the world!!
P.S. thankyou suprah, exactly my point!
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o'shea and fletcher are the definition of mediocre, if it wasn't for their attitude and workrate, they'd both be playing in championshipOriginally posted by Suprah View PostNot the ones who let the world alight or become pop idols, but the likes of Darren Fletcher, Wes Brown, John O'Shea are integral part of United when reinforcements have to be called in. Fletcher is perhaps the hardest working midfielder at United and a really under-rated player in England right now.
Also ex-United youngsters like David Healy Northern Ireland set the world alight in their moments, esp. that hat trick against Spain at Windsor Park for the Euro 2008 qualifiers.
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ahan, so now u reach my point which was : ribery is the most influential player in the team, but it doesnt mean bayern is a one man team.Originally posted by futbol>>>IRAN View Postyes but those team are more balanced and feature more quality players
in barca they have xavi who was the players of the tournament in the euro's and not to mention iniesta
in pool there is the great leader in gerrard aswell as torres so that makes it a two man team.
and arsenal.. they play the best damn one touch football there is and you cant do that with just one player!
wat about toni? klose? schweinsteiger? lahm?? ze roberto? altintop?? van bommel?? podolski? sagnol?? oddo? lucio?? demichelis???
none of them are quality players? all play for the top national teams of the world!!
P.S. thankyou suprah, exactly my point!
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yes but those team are more balanced and feature more quality playersOriginally posted by Suprah View Postbarca needed messi to at least show face
arsenal without fabregas were lost
liverpool without torres' goals would have been lucky to even finish in top 10
in barca they have xavi who was the players of the tournament in the euro's and not to mention iniesta
in pool there is the great leader in gerrard aswell as torres so that makes it a two man team.
and arsenal.. they play the best damn one touch football there is and you cant do that with just one player!
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what makes barca , arsenal and liverpool one men team??Originally posted by yashar_fasihnia View Postdisagreed
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disagreedOriginally posted by futbol>>>IRAN View Postonly the two teams i highlighted!
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