To Yashar..

that's the team that actually introduced the concept of youth academies in the first place under Sir Matt Busby. The amount of players that have become great players over the last 55 years from United's youth academy is staggering. I suggest you read about them.

I will find it out. Thanks

[Suprah]

I don't have any idea of manchester united

that's the team that actually introduced the concept of youth academies in the first place under Sir Matt Busby. The amount of players that have become great players over the last 55 years from United's youth academy is staggering. I suggest you read about them.

[yashar_fasihnia]

you cant say it like that. i could say what if shevchenko went to lazio and because the world player of the year. how do you know this would ,have not been the case? see it doesnt make sense. fact is hierro was an amazing player and he became amazing when he was at madrid. so madrid deserve credit for it. you laughed at the thought of us producing players when in fact we have a good youth system who does develop a lot of world class players EVEN though we are the richest club and dont even need to do this.

baba jan, i said, it doesnt deserve much credit because all big teams buy young players with potential and make them who they are.
see, now we can say christiano ronaldo and man utd, but did christiano ronaldo actually come out of man utds youth academy??
wat about anderson?? wat about nani??

or chelsea with terry?? with lampard??

or barca with ronaldinho??? etoo???

wat about van der vart?? real madrid?? hamburg?? ajax??? see...there is no clear answer!


it deserves partial credit, thats it. real madrid does buy young potentials around the world, just like any big team around the world. so its no big deal really. name me any top club in the world and i can give u a list of examples where these clubs have bought young players from other less popular teams and leagues and have now become popular. its nothing special really.

if these players were coming from real madrids youth academy, then madrid deserved credit, but to buy talents as soon as they start shining in the less popular leagues in my opinion doesnt deserve much credit.

you forgot manchester united
boy are you asking for it. i'll happily let yashar give the answer

I don't have any idea of manchester united. But I will be waiting for yashars answer tommorow

[Suprah]

I heard that after barcelona and arsenal, real and bayern munich together with ajax has the best academics.

you forgot manchester united

Name one player like Raul who has played whole his life in Real Madrid and was brought up from real madrids youth academics and going through so much in his career (La Liga titles, CL titles, FIFA World club title, Copa Del rey title, EURO Supercup and Spanish supercups) and been so successful? Name one player from Bayern Munich who ever have producted such a class player like Raul?

boy are you asking for it. i'll happily let yashar give the answer

im also pretty sure deportivo is real madrids daddy and deportivo is shit and bayern is deportivo's daddy, so bayern is real madrids daddy.
game over

Im afraid you're wrong about deportivo. Last time you two met, Deportivo La Coruna kicked your ass twice so deportivo is also your daddy no doubt. I heard that after barcelona and arsenal, real and bayern munich together with ajax has the best academics.

Name one player like Raul who has played whole his life in Real Madrid and was brought up from real madrids youth academics and going through so much in his career (La Liga titles, CL titles, FIFA World club title, Copa Del rey title, EURO Supercup and Spanish supercups) and been so successful? Name one player from Bayern Munich who ever have producted such a class player like Raul?

yea we produced raul and casillas. but lets just look at a few other players we produced off the top of my head:
raul
casillas
guti
hierro (not cantera but we made him who he is)
javi garcia
de la red
portillo
soldado
pavon
raul bravo
soon to be stars because of real madrid:
sergio ramos
higuain
gago
drenthe
we also produced 2 of the best coaches in del bosque and rafael benitez.
and we dont even need to produce any players because we have always been the richest club in the world. while sporting lisbon and ajax have no money so they are feeder clubs.
please stop embarrassing yourself further yashar. i like you and dont want to see you get destroyed like this.

Repped. Let him talk milad jan he's owned and everybody knows that real are bayerns daddy.

[milad]

baba our discussion was youth academies and "the joker" was claiming real madrid has the best youth academy after barca and arsenal.
buying potentially good players doesnt really meaning making stars. real madrid spends money like hell and every youngster who is about to reach to fame, real buys him. some turn out to be good, some not.
so partly credit to madrid, but at the same time, there is no guarantee if hieroo would go to barca, he wouldnt be wat he became. maybe he would become better. wat makes u think hierro would become worse if he went to a top italian club where worlds best defenders are produced??
we can say this about all the players.
so this discussion of big clubs buying young players who are partly stars in lesser known teams isnt a big thing.

you cant say it like that. i could say what if shevchenko went to lazio and because the world player of the year. how do you know this would ,have not been the case? see it doesnt make sense. fact is hierro was an amazing player and he became amazing when he was at madrid. so madrid deserve credit for it. you laughed at the thought of us producing players when in fact we have a good youth system who does develop a lot of world class players EVEN though we are the richest club and dont even need to do this.

[yashar_fasihnia]

robinho and beckham were not in your list. your list was diarra, gago, and guti vs schweinstegier, ze roberto and van bommel and you made your list from the joker saying we have good players like sneijder, gago, diarra, guti. so you took sneijder out and compared them with 3 of bayerns midfielders and now that you know im right you bring beckham and robinho into it and say sneijder wasnt playing. just admit when you are wrong man dont try to twist everything in your favor.
i said gago will be a star and that is my opinion. i did not use it to argue anything. btw podolski hates bayern and might end up in madrid in january.

ay khodaaaaa.....man az daste to chikar konam!!!
HE DIDNT INCLUDE ROBINHO AND BECKHAM SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARENT WITH MADRID ANYMORE. THEN LATER, I SAID, THE SAME PLAYERS PLUS ROBINHO AND BECKHAM WERE IN REAL MADRID AND WE STILL SCREWED THEM IN CHAMPIONS LEAGUE!!!

he didnt include it in the list himself!! since they arent part of the real madrid team now, obviously i wont compare them to my teams current midfielders, BUT WHEN THEY WERE, I SAID THAT THEY GOT SCREWED AS WELL BY THE SAME BAYERN TEAM, THAT TOO WITHOUT TONI, KLOSE, RIBERY....

diarra,gago and gutti are nothing compared to scweinsteiger, van bommel, ze roberto......
these same losers along with beckham and robinho played against us in the champions league 2 seasons ago (when we didnt have toni, klose, and ribery) and this is wat happened in the end:
remember?
thanx to makaay doing this in the 11th second:
best youth academy after barca and arsenal??
WTF??!! where did u get this bogus info from???
teams like ajax and sporting lisbon have the best youth academy in europe. how u managed to put urselves up there among these guys is beyond my imagination, maybe cos u have produced 1 raul and casillas, u suddenly think u have the best youth academy??