Podolski: I Should Have Never Signed For Bayern!

[futbol>>>IRAN]

^^ see yashar everyone here seems to know it except for you

because you are in denial!!

[yashar_fasihnia]

Funny how a German supporter compares Spain to Germany.

wrong. im a bayern supporter which some people seem to mix up with german supporter. national teams, i only support iran but if i had to choose a team to support, i would go with italy first and germany second.

but yea, some discussion about bayern and germany overlap, so i take part in it.

Spain have been underachievers,

SHORT AND SWEET CONCLUSION. under achievers, chokers, over rated, all show no result,,,, all of them spain.

Germany on the other hand, efficient, well planned achievers.

they are obviously a much more talented side than Germany, if you disagree with that you have personal problems.

if by talent u mean technically skilled, then i dont disagree. but if u mean technicall skilled means better football player, then i disagree.
technick and skill is just 1 attribute of footballer, just like other attributes like physique, mentality, attitude, professionalism, team player, etc...

The important thing is that in the last 12 years both countries have won 1 Euro cup each. With Spain beating Germany in the finals of the event.

hehehe...sure...thats all thats important since thats the only worthwhile thing spanish team has done all the previous 12 years. all those worldcup runner ups and third places, the euro cup runners up dont mean jack and cant be used to compare the success of the 2 teams. the silver medals all mean jack.
its just who has won the euro cup and who has beaten who in the euro cup.

sure, in that way, i can include greece in the same list as germany and spain since they have all won 1 euro cup the past 12 years

The Spanish league has always been superior to Germany, everyone knows that.

not always, not during the 70s.
but yes, its been years now that spanish league has been superior to german league. no doubt about that. and im not a bundesliga supporter, again, im a bayern munich supporter.

Germany is a very technically gifted country, but in terms of player talent Spain is better.

again, depends how u define talent. if by talent, u mean ball skills and dribbling, yes. otherwise i disagree.

MADRID VS BAYERN
Ok... so you have a slightly better 1on1 record, so what.

buddy, is there a better way to compare two teams than to compare them head to head??
we also have handed u guys ur biggest european defeat in ur history and the record for scoring the fastest goal in the history of champions league.

besides, werent u saying germany and spain have won 1 euro cup but spain has beaten germany in that final??
however now, a slight 1 on 1 record means nothing to u??

Being the ridiculously dominant side in Germany, you still have a worse record than Madrid in all of Europe.

u can have a better record against other european teams for all i care, but when we have come face to face, we are better. thats all that matters.

[yashar_fasihnia]

lol do you even follow sports?!!

yes i do, cos CLEARLY, I DONT THINK SPAIN IS BETTER THAN GERMANY IN SPORTS!! so im very sure i do..the question is...do u??

lol is that some sort of threat or somthing because everything you say or think is so 15+ years ago!!

and all that means jack?? wat about all the trophies u guys won 15+ years ago?? do u wanna neglect them as well??

get a grip of urself man..wat r u saying... we are comparing success and glories and honours.. it involves HISTORY!!!

and so there are not many players in the bundesliga who are foreign ?!!
you just wrecked yourself there buddy. Because the bundesliga had the highest number of representatives playing in national teams in this years euro's!!

there is, noone said there isnt. again, ur mixing up things.
i said, the spanish clubs have won because of the high quality NON SPANIARD FOOTBALLERS they have compared to the low quality NON germans in bundesliga.

so spanish clubs winning european cups doesnt have much contribution from spanish players.
but bundesliga teams (like bayern, hamburg, dortmund) who have won european trophies have had majority german players. so much of the success was contributed to by german players, not foreigners.

SEE THE DIFFERENCE NOW???

its like arsenal winning the champions league while fielding 0 english players!!
how much of that winning was contributed by english players??
OFTAD?? YA BAZAM TEKRAR KONAM???

So it must say somthing for the management of spanish football.

yup, spending good money and attractng the best footballers from around the world, NOT PRODUCING THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD!
big difference

and being a bayern fan you should know your best players are foreign ; ribery , toni , etc. So you got owned in that respect aswell.

hehe,, so just because 2 seasons we got toni and ribery now i got owned huh?? wat about all the previous seasons we had teh likes of ballack, mathaus, beckenbauer, klinsman, etc...

its not like im saying bayern has 23 top german footballers!!!

And yes spain is germany's sarvar in sports.
In football euro champions and world nr1, futsal world champions, basketball world champions, tennis rafa nadal world nr 1, handball etc etc..
so there i think you just got KO'd

SORRY, BUT

1)2008 olympics: germany 16 gold medals with a total of 41 medals ranked 5th. spain 5 gold medals and a total of 18 medals only, ranked 16th!

SOOORAKHED AGAIN!!!!

2)tennis?? wat about STEFFI GRAFF?? WORLD NUMBER ONE WITH RECORD!WAT ABOUT BORIS BECKER??

SOORAKHED AGAIN!!!!!

3)FORMULA 1?? MICHAEL SCHUMACHER?? DOES IT RING A BELL??

SOORAKHED AGAIN!!!!!

4)HAND BALL SPAIN??? HAND BALL SPAIN?? BACHE PORU!! GERMANY IS THE REIGNING CHAMPIONS OF WORLDS MENS HANDBALL!! THEY WON 2007!!
GERMANY HAVE WON IT THRICE in 2007, 1978, 1939. SPAIN ONLY ONCE IN 1935!
GERMANY HAS HAD 4 RUNNER UPS in 2003, 1974, 1970, 1954. SPAIN NONE!!!
WOMENS, GERMANY HAS WON 4 TIMES, SPAIN ZEROOOOO!!!

HANDBALL GERMAN BUNDESLIGA IS THE BEST LEAGUE IN THE WORLD!! CHERT NAGU ENGHAD!!

olympics men, germany has won gold once, silver twice. spain thrice only the bronze.
olympics ladies, germany one silver, one bronze. spain ZEROOOOOO!!!
here u can see all the details about handball in olmypics. germany is muchhhhhhhhh higher than spain!


european cup, mens :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europea...l_Championship

european cup, womens:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europea...l_Championship

IN BOTH,,,GERMANY IS MUCH HIGHER THAN SPAIN!!!!

SOORAKHED AGAIN!!!

5)football, again records prove, german national team, men have been much more successful than spanish national team.
as for women, spains national team isnt anywhere close to the german national team!


SOORAKHED AGAIN!!!!!


6)hockey, germany beat spain in the finals of olympics and won gold!

in worldcups, germany again are regining champions. they won both worldcup 2002 and 2006. 1 runners up in 1982 and 3 third place finishes.
spain on the other hand, 2 runenrs up and one third place.

here is a full ranking and list of teams: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey_World_Cup

SOORAKHED AGAIN!!!

7) tabel tennis

germany got silver medal in olympics 2008. spain was nowhere to be seen!

germany has 3 championships while spain doesnt even know how to spell table tennis!!!

SOORAKHED AGAIN!!!


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mate.... i can go on and bring more sports for u like equesterian and horse riding and all those other sports, but let me cut it short for u and me...

even in basket ball, germany has 1 gold, germany has 1 bronze. nothing else besides that, any of them have achieved.

spain is only better than germany in futsal that too because the spaniards like iranians have the god given gift of dribbling and ball skills. in almost every other sport, germany owns spain in sports.
not only in sports, in economics, in science, in philopshy, in everything!!



HALA U GOT KAMIKAZED!!

GERMANY>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SPAIN IN SPORTS!!!

[Demis-11]

i see 4 pages to this thread before i open it and im thinkin `wow people must really care about podolski` lol, there must be 3 posts relevant to the topic

but since every1 is throwing their two cents in..i think spain has better technique and germany has better strategy and discipline...but i could care less for either teams as i only root for 1

[futbol>>>IRAN]

yes i do, cos CLEARLY, I DONT THINK SPAIN IS BETTER THAN GERMANY IN SPORTS!! so im very sure i do..the question is...do u??


and all that means jack?? wat about all the trophies u guys won 15+ years ago?? do u wanna neglect them as well??

get a grip of urself man..wat r u saying... we are comparing success and glories and honours.. it involves HISTORY!!!



there is, noone said there isnt. again, ur mixing up things.
i said, the spanish clubs have won because of the high quality NON SPANIARD FOOTBALLERS they have compared to the low quality NON germans in bundesliga.

so spanish clubs winning european cups doesnt have much contribution from spanish players.
but bundesliga teams (like bayern, hamburg, dortmund) who have won european trophies have had majority german players. so much of the success was contributed to by german players, not foreigners.

SEE THE DIFFERENCE NOW???

its like arsenal winning the champions league while fielding 0 english players!!
how much of that winning was contributed by english players??
OFTAD?? YA BAZAM TEKRAR KONAM???




yup, spending good money and attractng the best footballers from around the world, NOT PRODUCING THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD!
big difference


hehe,, so just because 2 seasons we got toni and ribery now i got owned huh?? wat about all the previous seasons we had teh likes of ballack, mathaus, beckenbauer, klinsman, etc...

its not like im saying bayern has 23 top german footballers!!!




SORRY, BUT

1)2008 olympics: germany 16 gold medals with a total of 41 medals ranked 5th. spain 5 gold medals and a total of 18 medals only, ranked 16th!

SOOORAKHED AGAIN!!!!

2)tennis?? wat about STEFFI GRAFF?? WORLD NUMBER ONE WITH RECORD!WAT ABOUT BORIS BECKER??

SOORAKHED AGAIN!!!!!

3)FORMULA 1?? MICHAEL SCHUMACHER?? DOES IT RING A BELL??

SOORAKHED AGAIN!!!!!

4)HAND BALL SPAIN??? HAND BALL SPAIN?? BACHE PORU!! GERMANY IS THE REIGNING CHAMPIONS OF WORLDS MENS HANDBALL!! THEY WON 2007!!
GERMANY HAVE WON IT THRICE in 2007, 1978, 1939. SPAIN ONLY ONCE IN 1935!
GERMANY HAS HAD 4 RUNNER UPS in 2003, 1974, 1970, 1954. SPAIN NONE!!!
WOMENS, GERMANY HAS WON 4 TIMES, SPAIN ZEROOOOO!!!

HANDBALL GERMAN BUNDESLIGA IS THE BEST LEAGUE IN THE WORLD!! CHERT NAGU ENGHAD!!

olympics men, germany has won gold once, silver twice. spain thrice only the bronze.
olympics ladies, germany one silver, one bronze. spain ZEROOOOOO!!!
here u can see all the details about handball in olmypics. germany is muchhhhhhhhh higher than spain!


european cup, mens :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europea...l_Championship

european cup, womens:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europea...l_Championship

IN BOTH,,,GERMANY IS MUCH HIGHER THAN SPAIN!!!!

SOORAKHED AGAIN!!!

5)football, again records prove, german national team, men have been much more successful than spanish national team.
as for women, spains national team isnt anywhere close to the german national team!


SOORAKHED AGAIN!!!!!


6)hockey, germany beat spain in the finals of olympics and won gold!

in worldcups, germany again are regining champions. they won both worldcup 2002 and 2006. 1 runners up in 1982 and 3 third place finishes.
spain on the other hand, 2 runenrs up and one third place.

here is a full ranking and list of teams: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey_World_Cup

SOORAKHED AGAIN!!!

7) tabel tennis

germany got silver medal in olympics 2008. spain was nowhere to be seen!

germany has 3 championships while spain doesnt even know how to spell table tennis!!!

SOORAKHED AGAIN!!!


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mate.... i can go on and bring more sports for u like equesterian and horse riding and all those other sports, but let me cut it short for u and me...

even in basket ball, germany has 1 gold, germany has 1 bronze. nothing else besides that, any of them have achieved.

spain is only better than germany in futsal that too because the spaniards like iranians have the god given gift of dribbling and ball skills. in almost every other sport, germany owns spain in sports.
not only in sports, in economics, in science, in philopshy, in everything!!



HALA U GOT KAMIKAZED!!

GERMANY>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SPAIN IN SPORTS!!!

well if you want to weigh it up spain is better than germany in the major sports. and no i dont classify table tennis as a major sport

by your logic australia is better sporting nation than germany and spain because they got a better medal tally in the olympics

Your basically saying all of spain's club football success was due to foreign players which is not entirely the case.

If that were so then Spain wouldn't have been able to produce so many good footballers (which are better than german )over the years. It goes to show which country is doing things better.

and besides club football is a globalized game so I don't get where your getting at.

[yashar_fasihnia]

well if you want to weigh it up spain is better than germany in the major sports. and no i dont classify table tennis as a major sport

depends how u define major sports??
watever it is, if u wanan remove table tennis remove it.

football, tennis, volleyball, handball all german national team has been more successful than spanish national team.

i removed formula 1, hockey, table tennis for u all 3 spain is shit in and germany is great in. now in the remaining list, germany is still kicking spains @$$!! wats ur excuse now??/

now u make me a list of wat u consider "major sports" and compare spain and germany for me please

sorry buddy, but like i said, u just went kamikaze on urself with that claim.

by your logic australia is better sporting nation than germany and spain because they got a better medal tally in the olympics

no, i used olympics AS ONE OF THE REASONS. i listed 6 7 points for u there. u ignored all the rest and stuck to the first only to create a refuting argument?? lame nima, lame!

Your basically saying all of spain's club football success was due to foreign players which is not entirely the case.

again now, ur making "safsate" and mixing things up.
i said spain has less spanish players, much lesser than german players contributing to their club success.
not ALL.

If that were so then Spain wouldn't have been able to produce so many good footballers (which are better than german )over the years.
It goes to show which country is doing things better.

the "" in ur post proves how valid that argument is

and besides club football is a globalized game so I don't get where your getting at.

hehehe..u talk about globalization yet u are the one talking about podolski and klose and kuranyi.... u seem to confuse urself really well

[The Joker]

Screw you Yashar. Bayern are just destroying players like Podoloski. They never give him a chance to show himself. Real Madrid is your daddy. Maybe we got the biggest defeat by you but we became champion that time and we kicked your ass in semifinal if I remember. You guys couldn't nearly beat Getafe and Zenit raped your ass later haha

[The Joker]

If you say Germany is better than Spain then what happened in EURO 08 final yashar jan?? Spain owned Germany!!

[futbol>>>IRAN]

depends how u define major sports??
watever it is, if u wanan remove table tennis remove it.
football, tennis, volleyball, handball all german national team has been more successful than spanish national team.
i removed formula 1, hockey, table tennis for u all 3 spain is shit in and germany is great in. now in the remaining list, germany is still kicking spains @$$!! wats ur excuse now??/
now u make me a list of wat u consider "major sports" and compare spain and germany for me please
sorry buddy, but like i said, u just went kamikaze on urself with that claim.
no, i used olympics AS ONE OF THE REASONS. i listed 6 7 points for u there. u ignored all the rest and stuck to the first only to create a refuting argument?? lame nima, lame!
again now, ur making "safsate" and mixing things up.
i said spain has less spanish players, much lesser than german players contributing to their club success.
not ALL.
the "" in ur post proves how valid that argument is
hehehe..u talk about globalization yet u are the one talking about podolski and klose and kuranyi.... u seem to confuse urself really well

there is so much wrong with this post i'm not even going to bother anymore!!


you are being stubborn and wont admit the truth , therefore i refuse to take this any further!

[maniei]

futbol>>>IRAN I'm sorry but you dont know shit.

I dont know in which country you live, but judged by your pseudo-expert comments you live in the US or kanada.
and then you have the decency to say things like germany's football development sucks.

right now germany has one of the best youth programs in the world, if not the best.
5-6 years ago euro and world cups were a thing between spain and portugal + brazil and argentine.
now germany's youth teams are part of the elite as well.

why you ask? because the german federation got its act together and is working properly right now.

and dont tell me germans only play with foreigners. if spain had as many immigrants as germany has, they would have as many foreigners in their team

ah I'm paying too much attention to you. just remember names like marko marin, tony kroos, mats hummels or our very own ashkan dejagah and dont talk that much in the future

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about podolski:

his move to bayern was no mistake. he learned a lot, as you can see in the german nt.
his only mistake was that he stayed for too long

[futbol>>>IRAN]

[QUOTE=maniei;1093870]futbol>>>IRAN I'm sorry but you dont know shit.

I dont know in which country you live, but judged by your pseudo-expert comments you live in the US or kanada.
and then you have the decency to say things like germany's football development sucks.

right now germany has one of the best youth programs in the world, if not the best.
5-6 years ago euro and world cups were a thing between spain and portugal + brazil and argentine.
now germany's youth teams are part of the elite as well.

why you ask? because the german federation got its act together and is working properly right now.

and dont tell me germans only play with foreigners. if spain had as many immigrants as germany has, they would have as many foreigners in their team

ah I'm paying too much attention to you. just remember names like marko marin, tony kroos, mats hummels or our very own ashkan dejagah and dont talk that much in the future

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WARNING FOR SWEARING.

NEXT TIME YOU WILL BE BANNED.

[maniei]

aabe mani where did you come from?!!
dont say i dont know shit you cant even spell canada!!
i suggest you go back to the hole you came out of

in german its spelled kanada. german spelling is above canadian spelling, because germany owns kanada.
even us-americans consider kanadians as culture-less

[futbol>>>IRAN]

in german its spelled kanada. german spelling is above canadian spelling, because germany owns kanada.
even us-americans consider kanadians as culture-less

well we speak english here not german

[maniei]

^^^if germans spell something wrong americans dont have the right to correct them

[yashar_fasihnia]

there is so much wrong with this post i'm not even going to bother anymore!!
you are being stubborn and wont admit the truth , therefore i refuse to take this any further!

hehe sure....while i posted all my claims with proof and statistics. u had no refuting arguments.
u had no statistics or proof to back up ur claim.
yet im being stubborn and u say my post was wrong while my post was nothing but statistics. wat u saw wrong in the statistics, i wonder

so logically, this is the only answer u can come up.

be ghole milad, "cute way to accept defeat"