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thats what I meant ,lol----1990 TM, You will always have a special place in our hearts
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Russia totally outclassed the Dutch. The standard of their football in this whole tournament has been even better than Hollands...even in the 4-1 defeat against Spain they were impressive for long periods
Spain are better than Italy in every respect, apart from possibly defence and even there Italy are understrength. The only way Italy will beat Spain is through luck or negativity. Although they seem to have done that before once or twice...
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its the curse. you CANT overcome it. it will come and hunt you down. look what happened to holland.Originally posted by zereshk-ali View PostRussia totally outclassed the Dutch. The standard of their football in this whole tournament has been even better than Hollands...even in the 4-1 defeat against Spain they were impressive for long periods
Spain are better than Italy in every respect, apart from possibly defence and even there Italy are understrength. The only way Italy will beat Spain is through luck or negativity. Although they seem to have done that before once or twice...

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if the pattern holds then italy will beat spain tomorrow. We wil have italy germany in the finalOriginally posted by EKBATAN View Postlooool all you people judged too early...i knew holland wasn't all that
thats what they get for opening the scoring with an offside goal
p.s. russia is sick!----1990 TM, You will always have a special place in our hearts
Goalie-----------abedzadeh----------
Defense----hassanzadeh-----zarincheh-------moharami----
midfield---namjoo motlagh---shahrokh bayani---cyrus ghayeghran---eftekhari---Abtahi
forward-----pius-----marfavi-----
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"Iranians are fiercely nationalistic", Michael Rubin, an Iran expert at the American Enterprise Institute
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Sports doesn't build character. It reveals it - Legendary UCLA coach, John R Wooden
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same but look what happened to holland. its the curse. you can run but you cant hide from it... it will eventually catch you before the finals.Originally posted by zereshk-ali View PostI have a feeling that this year it might be different. Spain are really good enough to overcome that curse

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true to a certain extent but how come they are always true! anyways that winning mentality is stupid. if only the world was like that. saying "hey guess what IM GONNA WIN"! will not work. just ask domenech.Originally posted by Suprah View PostThings like curses and superstitions are just a lead weight at the back of people's minds that hinder their confidence and their will to acheive.
it will just make you more disappointed when you fail and say things like i need to get married.

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These mental psychological things are an excuse. Face it, Spain and such countries with good leagues but brashy national teams lack grit and focus. When things dont go your way, its about grinding results out and getting the job by one way or another. Efficiency and the killer push at the final stage will up-end misdirected and short-lived flair any day.
That is exactly why Italy, Germany, Brazil, have more world/continental titles than anyone although same can be applied to Argentina as well. No what style they played, they were damned efficient enough to win it. Days will come when things go bad, and that is where grit and pushing the extra yard comes.
That is exactly what Spain and Holland have ALWAYS lacked - and that's exactly why Holland failed today. Prove us wrong Spain because it's about f***ing time they did.sigpic
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i think you'll find here that i was spot on.Originally posted by 1Heesham1 View Postthe dutch have had their fair share of luck scoring goals first in each game. But lets see what happens when they go behind and have to chase the game. The bulk of their goals have resulted from counter attacks and defensive mistakes from their opposition and set pieces, but if they played a more packed defense, i don't think they'll do anything amazing like that against a more organised team.
i agree.
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