Iran vs Algeria Post Match Ratings and Discussion

[Iranianarsenal11]

Anyone that thinks Shoja is a better RB than Sadegh is a bit lost... Sadegh is miles better, especially in Dragan's system.

Shoja has no technique on the ball whatsoever and is slow... Lol

[teammelli91]

I watched the full match and took notes.

Sadegh Moharrami actually did very well. I give him a 7/10.

He made 3 mistakes. But other than that, he was contributing to plays, making clean tackles, intercepting balls, juking his 1v1 opponent and making space for the triangle around him to create plays..

On 1-2 occasions he even left his post to center midfield to help clean up the mess.

Also, I’m not sure if Skocic instructed him to go up the flank or if Skocic just doesn’t care what Sadegh does. Because the big errors Sadegh made were due to leaving his position open for Algerian left mid/wingers to attack.

I wouldn’t give Sadegh anything lower than a 7/10. I may do an edit of his performance later this week.


I was very impressed by Aref Aghasi. I swear to God I had never heard of him before because I haven’t followed our league this year. He was solid and it was his first appearance in a Team Melli shirt. You could tell he’s hungry to keep a spot in the squad. He made many contributions in defense and a few times in attack. As a CB I wouldn’t run all the way up like that, but his efforts eventually resulted in the goal. He got the ball to Noorafkan. He also made 1 mistake.

[O-ZoNe]

http://www.persianfootball.com/forum...=1#post2822555

Even by Ozone's jurisdiction, you are a vatanforoosh because being "Skocic-Out" and cheering opponents are NOT mutually exclusive in his vision.

Lol you read that as vatanforoushi?

All I said in that post in order for Skocic to have a chance at being fired he has to at least lose to Algeria for starters. Aka you have to hope for a loss. Never said anyone is vatanforoush. I don't even use that term as I don't like it. Particularly in world of sports.

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[O-ZoNe]

Which certain person are you referring to? CQ?

And are you suggesting that Leicester City is, or has ever been, loyal to that certain person? He always supported Branko in the Ivankovic vs Queiroz debates here. I would have thought you knew that..., given how active you are?

Fact is that the vast majority of this forum, seeing a distinct lack of any form of shape and game plan for TM after all these games, and in anticipation for the last "true" world cup against a historic line up of opponents, just want to see someone who the players respect complete the project with TM, armed with this group of players who he has nurtured. We just don't want a repeat of 2006 again, and the signs are there for anyone who has followed TM for the last few decades. Just like in 1998, there is still time to get someone decent in (Ivic type character) and get us ready for the last big world cup campaign.

Even Hoorad would prefer CQ to take over now, having been much more anti-CQ than even folk like you before.

Maybe I was referring to Branko...you can assume whatever you want. Notice I didn't mention CQ...you did. I thought we agreed not to discuss Cq with each other?

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[Leicester City]

Surely you must be joking?

Although we're a lot of people who can't stand that dallal Skocic, we should never sink so low and cheer on our opponents.
There is a word for that and it's called vatanforooshi.

http://www.persianfootball.com/forums/showthread.php?123996-Friendly-Iran-Algeria-Info-Updates-and-Live-Reports-(12.06.2022)&p=2822555&viewfull=1#post2822555

Even by Ozone's jurisdiction, you are a vatanforoosh because being "Skocic-Out" and cheering opponents are NOT mutually exclusive in his vision.

[Leicester City]

Surely you must be joking?

Although we're a lot of people who can't stand that dallal Skocic, we should never sink so low and cheer on our opponents.
There is a word for that and it's called vatanforooshi.

I don't think I am any more of a vatanforoosh than people openly supporting terrorists like Khamenei or Soleimani on the team.

I don't think I am any more of a vatanforoosh than Rafiei or Khalilzadeh (both who are regulars on TM) that were cheering against Iran in Asian Cup 2019 when Queiroz was in charge or Khiabani who was openly cheering on Venezuela in 2018.

Equally, I don't think I am any more of a vatanforoosh than those who (on this very forum) were planning to go and protest the Canada game.

I just won't accept that when such instances exist.

[DR Strangemoosh]

Some of the anti skocic crowd are just loyal to a certain person and that is their entire TM...

Which certain person are you referring to? CQ?

And are you suggesting that Leicester City is, or has ever been, loyal to that certain person? He always supported Branko in the Ivankovic vs Queiroz debates here. I would have thought you knew that..., given how active you are?

Fact is that the vast majority of this forum, seeing a distinct lack of any form of shape and game plan for TM after all these games, and in anticipation for the last "true" world cup against a historic line up of opponents, just want to see someone who the players respect complete the project with TM, armed with this group of players who he has nurtured. We just don't want a repeat of 2006 again, and the signs are there for anyone who has followed TM for the last few decades. Just like in 1998, there is still time to get someone decent in (Ivic type character) and get us ready for the last big world cup campaign.

Even Hoorad would prefer CQ to take over now, having been much more anti-CQ than even folk like you before.

[O-ZoNe]

Surely you must be joking?

Although we're a lot of people who can't stand that dallal Skocic, we should never sink so low and cheer on our opponents.
There is a word for that and it's called vatanforooshi.

Nope. He made it clear in replies to my post he is not. This is the definition of a bandwagon fan. Support the team as long as they win and your in favour of the makeup of the team. When things get tough you bail.

Some of the anti skocic crowd are just loyal to a certain person and that is their entire TM...

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[peiman92]

Then come on England, Wales, and USA!

Simple as that.

Surely you must be joking?

Although we're a lot of people who can't stand that dallal Skocic, we should never sink so low and cheer on our opponents.
There is a word for that and it's called vatanforooshi.

[taremiscores]

Famous Algerian BeIN Sports Arab commentator Hafid Derradji says on his official Facebook page that Algeria may have won because Iran was very weak (and the sky is blue habibi).

[peiman92]

This is a forum where all types of people post. Team melli fans or not (unfortunately).

The players fully understand the limitations of the situation, but they have the gheyrat and fight to make the best of undesirable circumstances. They understand what they will represent on the world stage coming November.

I’m behind them 100%, and hopefully this Algeria game was a wake up call for everyone.

Most people are already awake my friend.
These 2,5 years and 18 games should have been more than enough for everyone to wake up.

[Leicester City]

[Prowess]

This is a forum where all types of people post. Team melli fans or not (unfortunately).

The players fully understand the limitations of the situation, but they have the gheyrat and fight to make the best of undesirable circumstances. They understand what they will represent on the world stage coming November.

I’m behind them 100%, and hopefully this Algeria game was a wake up call for everyone.

[koorosh]

In fact this is not good for us. With both England & Wales coming up short they will work harder to overcome their deficiencies & come up with better game plans & tactics. I would have preferred they won these games easy so some complacency crept into their preparations. Complacency & overestimating their strengths was going to be our biggest ally, now that has gone as well...

England have a terrible fan base who turn on their team at the sign of anything going wrong. That is why England generally underperforms on big stages. Today people were booing their own team after the 2nd goal. Their team is psychologically brittle and wilts in front of fan pressure. England has had 4 bad results in their last 4 games...with 2 losses and 2 draws. And the next time they play is in September against Germany and Italy. Their players have had a gruelling season topped with the stupid Nations League which continues in September. They will be more tired than any other nation.

They will prepare all summer but they won't be able to get rid of their biggest weakness...wilting in front of fan pressure!

[Omids]

Agreed. But can't we apply this analogy apply to us as well? I think losing to Algeria in a friendly should do better than worse to TM. We need to work on our weaknesses of both our players and coach.

In theory your are correct but the visible difference is that those teams have relevant tools and competencies in place to correct their deficiencies, for us there doesn't seem to be any particular plan or tactical prowess that assess the need and works towards mitigating it even after many weak performances. My opinion is not base on the one game against Algeria but all the games we have played, especially against better teams. The only coaching remedial attempt has been to throw different players into different positions and hope somehow, magically, the whole team will come good. So my hope of any improvement is low unless something drastically changes.