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  • teammelli91
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    Hi guys (Carlos Queiroz fan speaking),

    Team Melli, for the first 4 years under Carlos relied heavily on dropping back and defensive tactics. We didn’t have players who were game changers so Queiroz pursued foreign based Khalili brothers, Davari, Reza and Ashkan. At Brazil, Carlos decided to solely executed defensive tactics and counterattack against all opponents. Not to say he distrusted his domestic based players, but he was well aware of their individual abilities. Which is part of why he cut a player like Khalatbari.

    I’m paraphrasing: Carlos said, “With the level of Iranian football and the domestic league, Iran doesn’t have a single chance to make it to the next round at the World Cup.” He also said, “The chance for Iranian players to make the national team roster will be lower, if they choose domestic Iranian clubs over their European offers.” Starting in Fall 2014, Carlos started making big changes to the roster. More than half of Team Melli’s roster changed by 2015-16, and it was for the better. More and more domestic based talent moved to Europe. Many of CQ’s critics who had criticized his decisions for calling up the likes of Amiri, Rezaeian, Ghafouri and others kept quiet. Especially when they realized “Oh shit, he does know what he’s doing.” We had a variety of young talent in our squad who had the potential of hurting stronger opponents. Despite being defensive at the 2018 World Cup, CQ’s plan worked against Morocco. And although Iran parked the bus versus Spain, in the last 20 minutes of the match we watched Iniesta and friends in their own box defending against the Iran.

    Why do I bring all of this up? Because from 2016-18 we saw an Iran national team who began to slowly shy away from their defensive style of play. And a big reason for that was the group of players we had at our disposal. This is why I really wanted Carlos to stay after the Asian Cup. I truly believed that the 3rd time was the charm for CQ at both the World Cup and the Asian Cup. But that’s just me and my personal thoughts having watched 99% of matches while CQ was a coach.

    I also think that as Iranians, it's sort of embedded in our culture to hold onto the past. To overly compare/contrast the past with the present and refuse to move on. As much as our current circumstances suck, now is really not the time to be pessimistic. We need to keep united and support Skocic and the national team. Despite being a fan of CQ, I support Skocic. He has proven he deserves his position. He has gotten results and has been the coach of the second half. I know his credentials are nowhere hear CQ. I know he didn't coach any other national teams before Iran. I also know that he's got a very talented roster at his disposal, many of which were not present in that 1-0 loss against South Korea. But the reality is, we need to forget about Carlos coming back because that chapter ended. He's not coming back. Now is the time to be behind our national team and unconditionally support them. They’re not going through a good time and they need positive energy. We can see they’re trying to keep focused on their preparations, even though they know their preparations have been lackluster.

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  • Hosseini
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    I think the fire and emotion Javad has is actually really good for this team... ESP in the WC against giant teams. Too bad he won't join through an assistant coach role atleast

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  • milad_b
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    Originally posted by kateb View Post
    there is reason javad n.
    turned downed his dream job

    javad is the man
    heis style is what we need for results against
    giant teams
    i don't think skocic will be sacked.

    + Javad is a weak coppied version of CQ. I still believe yahya should take over if skocic is sacked.

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  • oracle
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    Originally posted by Hosseini View Post
    This. If we lose by +2 and play badly he should be gone IMO. I'd take Nekounam over him
    there is reason javad n.
    turned downed his dream job

    javad is the man
    heis style is what we need for results against
    giant teams

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  • oracle
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    we are not playing lobnon o syria o uae
    anymore
    need to see something
    majedi
    migjt want make name for himself
    by firng him IF WE LOOK BAD

    I HOPE WE WIN 3-0

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  • Hosseini
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    This. If we lose by +2 and play badly he should be gone IMO. I'd take Nekounam over him

    Originally posted by kateb View Post
    IF WE LOSE TO ALGERIA
    by +2 goals

    adios skocic
    we still have 5 months
    for a new coach

    a tie or a win and he is our coach 90%
    for the wc


    he had the players for long time now
    lets see we can connect more than 4 passes
    against qulity team

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  • Leicester City
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    Originally posted by kateb View Post
    IF WE LOSE TO ALGERIA
    by +2 goals

    adios skocic
    we still have 5 months
    for a new coach

    a tie or a win and he is our coach 90%
    for the wc


    he had the players for long time now
    lets see we can connect more than 4 passes
    against qulity team

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  • oracle
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    IF WE LOSE TO ALGERIA
    by +2 goals

    adios skocic
    we still have 5 months
    for a new coach

    a tie or a win and he is our coach 90%
    for the wc


    he had the players for long time now
    lets see we can connect more than 4 passes
    against qulity team

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  • diz
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    Originally posted by kateb View Post
    everyone is wondering where
    is skocic , why we dont hear
    nothing from him.

    rumor is circulating
    skocic has gone into
    KOOBIDEH COMA
    he ate 5 skwered of kobideh
    with rice butter 3 eggs on top of the
    rice ,up to that point he was still
    ok , what put him in the coma was
    he had masto khiyar and torshi
    together and fainted.
    latest update is he is out of coma
    but cant talk still, as doctors are
    practicing speech therapy with him.
    doctors are hopeful he will recover
    from this tragedy and should be ble
    say word or 2 in the next couple days.
    please by sending 100salavats , 100 hallelujah,
    and jewish members during friday
    night shabat pray for him as well
    to make speedy recovery from this
    kabab overdose.
    will keep close attention to this story
    and will provide update untill his
    first words com out.
    Bro, you're making me hungry!

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  • Keshwardoost
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    Originally posted by kateb View Post
    everyone is wondering where
    is skocic , why we dont hear
    nothing from him.

    rumor is circulating
    skocic has gone into
    KOOBIDEH COMA
    he ate 5 skwered of kobideh
    with rice butter 3 eggs on top of the
    rice ,up to that point he was still
    ok , what put him in the coma was
    he had masto khiyar and torshi
    together and fainted.
    latest update is he is out of coma
    but cant talk still, as doctors are
    practicing speech therapy with him.
    doctors are hopeful he will recover
    from this tragedy and should be ble
    say word or 2 in the next couple days.
    please by sending 100salavats , 100 hallelujah,
    and jewish members during friday
    night shabat pray for him as well
    to make speedy recovery from this
    kabab overdose.
    will keep close attention to this story
    and will provide update untill his
    first words com out.
    Originally posted by kateb View Post
    BREAKING NEWS
    skocic has said his first
    word.
    after several attempts
    doctors have confirm
    HIS FIRST WORLD
    HE SAID
    gooojeh farangi

    will keep the updates coming
    since this is ongoing story
    Originally posted by kateb View Post
    breaking news

    skocic said his second word
    KHIYAR SHOOR.
    dr. have decided to inject
    him with morphine so he can
    sleep.

    once he wake up
    if he says anything else
    will have update
    keep the pryers coming

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  • oracle
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    breaking news

    skocic said his second word
    KHIYAR SHOOR.
    dr. have decided to inject
    him with morphine so he can
    sleep.
    once he wake up
    if he says anything else
    will have update
    keep the pryers coming

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  • oracle
    replied
    BREAKING NEWS
    skocic has said his first
    word.
    after several attempts
    doctors have confirm
    HIS FIRST WORLD
    HE SAID
    gooojeh farangi

    will keep the updates coming
    since this is ongoing story

    Leave a comment:


  • oracle
    replied
    everyone is wondering where
    is skocic , why we dont hear
    nothing from him.

    rumor is circulating
    skocic has gone into
    KOOBIDEH COMA
    he ate 5 skwered of kobideh
    with rice butter 3 eggs on top of the
    rice ,up to that point he was still
    ok , what put him in the coma was
    he had masto khiyar and torshi
    together and fainted.
    latest update is he is out of coma
    but cant talk still, as doctors are
    practicing speech therapy with him.
    doctors are hopeful he will recover
    from this tragedy and should be ble
    say word or 2 in the next couple days.
    please by sending 100salavats , 100 hallelujah,
    and jewish members during friday
    night shabat pray for him as well
    to make speedy recovery from this
    kabab overdose.
    will keep close attention to this story
    and will provide update untill his
    first words com out.

    Leave a comment:


  • Farzadfarhangni
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    Originally posted by kateb View Post
    i AM all about results.but
    i wont deceive myself after a win
    against mediocre opponents
    . I PICK and choose for you to
    show you skocic is being promoted
    as great offense coach THATS
    WHY OUR D is average lol.
    playing 8 matches against
    lobnon iraq syria uae and qualifying
    with ease AND SCORING against
    these 2nd level asian teams
    DONT MEAN KASHK E BADEMJOON.
    please dont say oh with welmoc
    we lost to iraq and bahrain WELMOC
    WAS CAR CRASH ACCIDENT.
    we played a real asian team
    and should of lost both matches
    we walked away with 1pt against
    s.k....

    I TELL you what i did after
    that Lebanon match .i remmber
    all the wcq matches since 1990 wcq
    i carry these games with me daily.

    after the lebnon match
    i called ZAHAB show on tv
    and cussed out parviz mazloumi he hanged
    up and i called again
    told zahab on the air
    CQ WILL LEARN from this match,
    and will take us to the wc, and i asked
    for omid ebrahimi to get to playing time.
    that 2014 wcq cq built the team from ground
    0, so i had patience for him knowing his resume
    and knowing our dark days of 07-2012
    my LOGIC was cq is world class coach
    and we coming from dark era so he needs time.
    BUT
    THIS skocic is no cq
    this team melli is not that tm.
    this tm some can argue has the best players
    overall including the bench 1 through 23
    best since pre 1978 era.
    skocic is not world class coach
    he has taking over a team which a world class
    coach had created.
    I appreciate your response. I really do. I think we both know where we stand on this issue. Just a couple of quick notes. I 100% agree that CQ, overall, was a great coach and left many positives for Iranian football. The other thing is that we compare CQ with Skocic heads up but we have to consider that when CQ took over, we had much less legionnaires and no covid, so it was easier to get camps going, make a cohesive team and implement you ideas, go to West Asian tournaments and try things, etc, etc... Skocic has hardly had any of that. Thank you Kateb jan for the dialogue.

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  • AGC
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    Kateb are we talking about Lebanon that beat CQ and Bahrain that outplayed CQ?

    If you are going to mention this or that circumstance then you have to do mention circumstances regarding skocic too.

    Those are the rules for deliberative discussions. problem is these are not deliberative conversations. Its campaigning.

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