Please explain Skocic logic to me?

[ABalls]

The criticism of Sko is a bit much. Yeah the line-up was a bit cautious, but wasn't it always VERY cautious under CQ? Yes, the subs came on late, but didn't Taremi, Eza, Azmoun and JB nearly put 3 more goals in that second half, missing 2 by inches and a 3rd a foot offsides? When our players don't get playing time in Europe we assume it's bc they aren't up to par, but when they don't get playing time with TM, we assume it's a coach's error...bit weird, no?

We tied our top opponent 1-1 at home. Not a perfect game, but a decent result, and we're 5 points above the playoff spot with 6 winnable games to go.

I think it's important we get some squad rotation in and continue to learn our squad and build chemistry. There is nothing terminally wrong with this team or its coaching staff.

[Ali.Karimi79]

Jesus f***ing muhammad and buddha.
After a winning streak we get a draw and people call for Skocics head.

Didn't you see the dominance in the 2nd half? Whenever we shift into overdrive we can cause havoc and trouble for any team.
If it wasn't the 2 post hits we would have won. So relax everybody and let Skocic do his job.
As for Ghoddos, i am pretty sure he will get his playing time.

[Doctor DOOM]

bro when we scored we should have made changes why still play 2 defensive midfield, nouroulahi is not good , amiri is not a 90 min player, nourafkhan should not even be invited to tm that is how garbage he is , even shoja is not good wehave better players than him and taremi need to pass the damn ball more

wow!!!!!
the ONLY item I agree with here is Nourolahi isnt good.

everything else I completely, totally and vehemently disagree with

[Doctor DOOM]

A good coach wouldn't need to be reshuffling a thing in these circumstances in the first place.
We already knew from before that Jahanbakhsh is useless as a left midfielder/winger.
We already knew from before that Noorafkan is a defensive liability for the left back position.
We already knew from before that Amiri is needed in midfield.
Why repeat your errors? It's unacceptable to repeat them and continue the cycle.
The game would've been different if Jahanbakhsh started in his natural position and Amiri as a midfielder considering that it turned the game around once they did.
I have so much to get off my chest about this game. I will write a thorough analysis of this game later.
But you are correct about that he reshuffled the team and that it turned the game around and worked.
However, he did it out of incompetence not brilliance.

1- ALL coaches reshuffle according to the needs of the hour. EVERONE. Even the likes of Wenger, Guardiola, Klopp, ... .
Problem is not correcting your tactics/strategy. Problem arises when coaches DONT address the issue.
Skocic did. He readjusted the lineup and it worked.
what more can you ask from a coach who reads the game?

2- No. We Dont know JB is useless on the left. Simply bcoz he is not useless.
However being a mainly right footed player his efficacy rises if used on the right flank.
he has been used on the left before and has done quite well. I have been tracking him from when he was called up for our U17 TM. And he impressed everyone at that age, as a LEFT winger.

3- Neither is nourafkan a defensive liability. In fact against Iraq he did quite wonderfully.

4- True. Amiri's best turn out is when used in LM or LW


to sum the above, I think Skocic thought he could use two attacking players (amiri & JB) on the left flank as Korea's right flank will be far less aggressive as their left where Son plays.
so he used a proper RB (Moharami , who normally does well. But today was off form).

[Philosophy_King]

I think a draw at Azadi against Korea is not enough for a no 1 ranked Team in Asia. We just gave the Koreans all the possession and parked the Bus in our home game in the first half and the last 25 min of the second half .
Most people agree, that Ghoddus should just enter the game at some point, even if Skocic was happy with the 1-1 and wanted to rely on counter-attacks, Ghoddus would be perfect for the game. Still one can't deny that Skocic did a good job and put us in a great position so far. I just hope that he considers Ghoddus and Ghaedi for the future games.

I think we don't need to discuss our Middlefield, Ezzi was the Man of the Match and Nourollahi will keep his position until someone else can take his spot. Our main issue is going to be on LB-Position. It is true that Moharrami (RB) had a bad game, but overall he was very good for TM, lets not judge him by one bad game. Amiri at LB is a waste of his talent for our attack. Nourafkan need to gain more experience, he made some unnecessary fouls and got two yellow-cards in his last games. He is IMO to slow as a LB, if MiMo can find his Form back, that he had under CQ, he should be our starter.

Looking at Group B i was thinking, why so many claim that AFC is constantly putting stones in our way and favor KSA in every Aspect. Honestly, we end up in one of the Easiest Groups in our past WCQ-Campaigns. Since WCQ 2014 our only main opponent is South Korea, all the other Teams we are expected to defeat (on paper).
Just imagine we would swap with Australia and would end up with KSA, Japan, Oman....

[St_Mark]

we played well 10-15 min , plus what exactly did amiri do?our team is tired he dont make a sub then make 2 sub in 90 min?honeslty i think he dont know how to coach, we are 1-1 with 15 min to go why ghoddos dont come in we create and score the winner, then take off azmoun when taremi could have been subbed off
i think the team just want to play pp players . they are like a mini mafia , bagheri and hashemian only play pp player and use the coach as thier puppet

Plot thickens nemo

[O-ZoNe]

dont be silly even with little match time he is doing EPL training! that is a billion times more intense than no disrespect the IPL or QSL players

Arj ar Brighton versus now...look at the world of difference. Training lacks intensity and dynamics you feel in game play.

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[ehsan singapore]

The issue is in WC. This team with Sko will not do anything in WC.


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with our shitty center backs and shoja being slow like a turtle we will be killed in wc honestly

[ehsan singapore]

1- He entered the game wth 1st half cautious tactics and then open up in the 2nd.
I believe had it been 0-0 by min 60, we'd have seen Ghoddos come in (just as he was asked to warm up as soon as we conceded)


2- Skocic’s reshuffle of the team really turned the game around and worked. And that is hallmark of a good coach. After the Korean goal, by bringing Nourafkan for LB, he allowed Amiri (who is wasted at LB) to come to LM/LW , by releasing JB (who was performing well. Despite many of your criticism) to his better suited RW role.

What this did was reinforce our left side, both for defense as well as attacks. And with JB as RW, now, Koreans had to deal with TWO dangerous flanks. That’s why we were able to put extra pressure on them and even score.


3- agree.
Ghaedi shd have come in earlier.
But when the team is performing well (we almost scored 2 more goals) ... aside from nourolahi, ... not many coaches sub players who have synced up well by now, out

bro when we scored we should have made changes why still play 2 defensive midfield, nouroulahi is not good , amiri is not a 90 min player, nourafkhan should not even be invited to tm that is how garbage he is , even shoja is not good wehave better players than him and taremi need to pass the damn ball more

[ehsan singapore]

Well Iran controlled and dominated the game from the moment he made the first substitution until we equalised. Putting Amiri back in midfield allowed us to press them higher and they couldn't get out for around 15-20 minutes and JB's best spell in the game also coincided with the period after the substitution so I'm not sure we can criticise this too much.

But I agree on the criticism around a lack of more attacking substitutions after we had equalised, and giving more time to quality players like Ghoddos, Ghaedi and Torabi to influence the game. Personally I think the mistake he made was not starting with that line-up with Amiri in midfield and Noorafkan at lb and then having the option to switch Amiri to lb and bring on more attacking subs later on.

we played well 10-15 min , plus what exactly did amiri do?our team is tired he dont make a sub then make 2 sub in 90 min?honeslty i think he dont know how to coach, we are 1-1 with 15 min to go why ghoddos dont come in we create and score the winner, then take off azmoun when taremi could have been subbed off
i think the team just want to play pp players . they are like a mini mafia , bagheri and hashemian only play pp player and use the coach as thier puppet

[Damavand]

It was obvious from the start that Skocic was going after a tie game. He let the Koreans dictate the game which eventually led to the Son goal. After the equalizer the Koreans were in complete disarray, and instead of bringing fresh legs like Ghodus and Ghaedi to finish the job he did absolutely nothing and let the Koreans get back on their feet with some fresh legs of their own.

He got us results against average Asian teams but today got fully exposed against an Asian powerhouse. To think we could have had Renard but did not thanks to the corrupt and incompetent Taj and his gang.

We most likely will qualify to the WC but once there, there is virtually no chance we are advancing from group stage, something that we were on course of doing had they not gotten rid of CQ.

Just keep in mind that Japan, S Korea, Australia, KSA and even N Korea have all advanced from the group stage at the WC and we are just idling.

[Preezy]

1- He entered the game wth 1st half cautious tactics and then open up in the 2nd.
I believe had it been 0-0 by min 60, we'd have seen Ghoddos come in (just as he was asked to warm up as soon as we conceded)
2- Skocic’s reshuffle of the team really turned the game around and worked. And that is hallmark of a good coach. After the Korean goal, by bringing Nourafkan for LB, he allowed Amiri (who is wasted at LB) to come to LM/LW , by releasing JB (who was performing well. Despite many of your criticism) to his better suited RW role.
What this did was reinforce our left side, both for defense as well as attacks. And with JB as RW, now, Koreans had to deal with TWO dangerous flanks. That’s why we were able to put extra pressure on them and even score.
3- agree.
Ghaedi shd have come in earlier.
But when the team is performing well (we almost scored 2 more goals) ... aside from nourolahi, ... not many coaches sub players who have synced up well by now, out

A good coach wouldn't need to be reshuffling a thing in these circumstances in the first place.

We already knew from before that Jahanbakhsh is useless as a left midfielder/winger.
We already knew from before that Noorafkan is a defensive liability for the left back position.
We already knew from before that Amiri is needed in midfield.

Why repeat your errors? It's unacceptable to repeat them and continue the cycle.

The game would've been different if Jahanbakhsh started in his natural position and Amiri as a midfielder considering that it turned the game around once they did.

I have so much to get off my chest about this game. I will write a thorough analysis of this game later.

But you are correct about that he reshuffled the team and that it turned the game around and worked.
However, he did it out of incompetence not brilliance.

[Doctor DOOM]

1. Arguably our best player Ghoddos is warming the bench, in our most crucial match and didn't play last match either.

2. Makes defensive sub when were trailing 1-0

3. Makes 2 substitutes with only 30 SECONDS remaining on clock?!

Is this guy in a coma? I don't care if he is 20-0 this doesn't make sense.


EDIT: Ghoddos has played PERFECTLY every match he has come in, It isn't like he is being scrutinized for a bad performance. Skocic seems to be rewarding bad performers and punishing good ones.

1- He entered the game wth 1st half cautious tactics and then open up in the 2nd.
I believe had it been 0-0 by min 60, we'd have seen Ghoddos come in (just as he was asked to warm up as soon as we conceded)


2- Skocic’s reshuffle of the team really turned the game around and worked. And that is hallmark of a good coach. After the Korean goal, by bringing Nourafkan for LB, he allowed Amiri (who is wasted at LB) to come to LM/LW , by releasing JB (who was performing well. Despite many of your criticism) to his better suited RW role.

What this did was reinforce our left side, both for defense as well as attacks. And with JB as RW, now, Koreans had to deal with TWO dangerous flanks. That’s why we were able to put extra pressure on them and even score.


3- agree.
Ghaedi shd have come in earlier.
But when the team is performing well (we almost scored 2 more goals) ... aside from nourolahi, ... not many coaches sub players who have synced up well by now, out

[Sepehr9]

Well Iran controlled and dominated the game from the moment he made the first substitution until we equalised. Putting Amiri back in midfield allowed us to press them higher and they couldn't get out for around 15-20 minutes and JB's best spell in the game also coincided with the period after the substitution so I'm not sure we can criticise this too much.

But I agree on the criticism around a lack of more attacking substitutions after we had equalised, and giving more time to quality players like Ghoddos, Ghaedi and Torabi to influence the game. Personally I think the mistake he made was not starting with that line-up with Amiri in midfield and Noorafkan at lb and then having the option to switch Amiri to lb and bring on more attacking subs later on.

Excellent analysis.

[Iran_19]

The issue is in WC. This team with Sko will not do anything in WC.


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