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Well, the Algeria team certainly "experimented" in that match as well...with their C team. AND they were also under the Doha heat, except we had been acclimating to it for 2 weeks before, so if anything, we should have had the advantage.
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Omid Noorafkan as a CB, LB, DM, CM, LWOriginally posted by ramingeles2000 View Postthis orlando pirates angle is so weak. tell me, what exactly did skocic "test" in the algeria match?
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this orlando pirates angle is so weak. tell me, what exactly did skocic "test" in the algeria match?Originally posted by O-ZoNe View PostNot nearly as bad as not being able to beat Orlando Pirates reserve. Korea loss with half his desired lineup out and an untimely injury during a matchnwe had already qualified for should not be a serious measuring stick. Algeria friendly where a coach should be allowed to test and experiment... in Doha heat after iff bungled preps is more on them that Skocic...
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Not nearly as bad as not being able to beat Orlando Pirates reserve. Korea loss with half his desired lineup out and an untimely injury during a matchnwe had already qualified for should not be a serious measuring stick. Algeria friendly where a coach should be allowed to test and experiment... in Doha heat after iff bungled preps is more on them that Skocic...Originally posted by diz View PostTo be fair, his last two results against higher ranked teams (Korea and Algeria) were atrocious. So there is a reason for sacking him now (regardless of his overall record in our AFC group)
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Review the CQ Orlando Pirates thread to see the similaritiesOriginally posted by inarsenewetrust View Postit was obvious when sko couldnt foster unity within the dressing room and literally presided over a split camp, with many key players against him.
Every single player on the plane 4 years ago was on the same page, even if some may have been less than happy with their role (normal within a team setting). Nobody spoke out of turn, posted such things on social media, etc. This is large part allowed us to achieve our record points total in a WC in a quite difficult group. Without this we dont stand a chance and after the time skocic has had with the team a lot of key players remain unconvinced to the point they are ready to go public about it.
how fickle we are to forget and repeat histories mistakes.
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To be fair, his last two (recent) results against higher ranked teams (Korea and Algeria) were atrocious. So there is a reason for sacking him now (regardless of his overall record in our AFC group)Originally posted by nisfejahan View PostAs much as loved CQ and what he did for TM and Iran, if Skocic is fired, it will be a disaster.
What respectable country will fire a coach that got it out of a hole and achieved the best results in the history of TM. What respectable coach will agree to go to such a country, knowing that his success or failure will not be measured by results on the field, but by a bunch of vultures in the media and elsewhere.
And now that the enemies of TM have succeeded in creating a rift within the players, who will be able to right the ship. And for us fans, instead of putting pressure on IFF to do its job, we helped further deepen the rift. We all were swindled once again into blaming the coach for what IFF has to do.
But...don't worry, we will have a Jalal Talebi type figure waiting in the wings to take over. We just don't know which of the world-class coaches amongst Daei, Neku, Yahya, GhalehNoi, or dare I say Mayeli Kohan will lead us.
What a sorry mess!!!! Yes, we all bear a bit of responsibility.
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the damage is done at this point. i don't know what's worse - him staying or him leaving.
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As much as loved CQ and what he did for TM and Iran, if Skocic is fired, it will be a disaster.
What respectable country will fire a coach that got it out of a hole and achieved the best results in the history of TM. What respectable coach will agree to go to such a country, knowing that his success or failure will not be measured by results on the field, but by a bunch of vultures in the media and elsewhere.
And now that the enemies of TM have succeeded in creating a rift within the players, who will be able to right the ship. And for us fans, instead of putting pressure on IFF to do its job, we helped further deepen the rift. We all were swindled once again into blaming the coach for what IFF has to do.
But...don't worry, we will have a Jalal Talebi type figure waiting in the wings to take over. We just don't know which of the world-class coaches amongst Daei, Neku, Yahya, GhalehNoi, or dare I say Mayeli Kohan will lead us.
What a sorry mess!!!! Yes, we all bear a bit of responsibility.
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I appreciate what Skocic did for our TM during a difficult time. He got us out of a deep hole and was able to take the team through a successful qualification campaign. Unfortunately, he has shown that at this time in his career, he is incapable of going to the next level. This has been clear since January and his inability to force IFF into action regarding preparation followed by the current disunity among players has not left any room for TM to succeed with him as the HC. It's time for change and hopefully CQ will be convinced to come back.
Go TM!
Thank you Skocic!
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it was obvious when sko couldnt foster unity within the dressing room and literally presided over a split camp, with many key players against him.Originally posted by O-ZoNe View PostWas it obvious when we tied Orlando Pirates and lost to Arab teams under CQ? I think we tend to read too much in single matches missing the forest for a tree.
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Every single player on the plane 4 years ago was on the same page, even if some may have been less than happy with their role (normal within a team setting). Nobody spoke out of turn, posted such things on social media, etc. This is large part allowed us to achieve our record points total in a WC in a quite difficult group. Without this we dont stand a chance and after the time skocic has had with the team a lot of key players remain unconvinced to the point they are ready to go public about it.
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Was it obvious when we tied Orlando Pirates and lost to Arab teams under CQ? I think we tend to read too much in single matches missing the forest for a tree.Originally posted by Iranianarsenal11 View PostBig respect to this guy tbh.. Took on the job when no one wanted it and got us very respectable wins against Bahrain and Iraq but it was clear from his matches against Lebanon both home and away, South Korea home and away, UAE away and the Algeria friendly that the tactics will not succeed at the world cup against England, USA and Wales
Best of luck to him and his record should still get him a solid coaching gig for a national team on the level of Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait, etc
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Big respect to this guy tbh.. Took on the job when no one wanted it and got us very respectable wins against Bahrain and Iraq but it was clear from his matches against Lebanon both home and away, South Korea home and away, UAE away and the Algeria friendly that the tactics will not succeed at the world cup against England, USA and Wales
Best of luck to him and his record should still get him a solid coaching gig for a national team on the level of Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait, etc
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Right man for the job. Mafia took him down. Shame on us for allowing it to happen. Low hashieh and did his job effectively. Vay behalemoon if he goes. Dark days ahead.
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Thank you for what you did, we won't forget but it's time to move on. All the best.
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Respect to Dragan. Looks like resignation will happen over the 1-2 days
This wasn't a good way to go (either for him, or for TM as as whole) but wish him the best for the next post. He can be proud about his achievements for TM.
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