Final ranking after Group phase

[Martin-Reza]

It's such bs that Japan advanced. They were in the easiest group of the entire WC and only managed to get through based on the fact that they had fewer yellow cards. They only got 4 points in that cakewalk of a group with the same record as us in the toughest group, and yet we were eliminated? Why do we always get the toughest group while the rest of Asia gets in the easiest groups?

And they basically started the game vs. Columbia with numerical advantage and a 1-0 lead. But still, this is good for Asian football, so no hard feelings.

[pandora]

15 Japan
16 Argentina
17 Senegal
18 Iran
19 South Korea
20 Peru
21 Nigeria
22 23 Serbia Germany (depending on yellows)
24 Tunisia
25 Poland
26 Saudi Arabia
27 Morocco
28 29 30 Australia Iceland Costa Rica (depending on yellows)
31 Egypt
32 Panama

PS Japan's time wasting only moved them up 2 places.

[saeed_noro]

next fifa ranking we will have 802 or 803 points with the results happened for us. we will climb some places for sure, thanks to victory and draw we could get.

[arash123]

next fifa ranking we will have 802 or 803 points with the results happened for us. we will climb some places for sure, thanks to victory and draw we could get.

Yes you are correct. By the looks of it we should be ranked about 30th.

[Afat11]

Yes you are correct. By the looks of it we should be ranked about 30th.

26th. I already calculated based on results who we will leapfrog and who we cannot. If we win the Asian Cup, we will probably be a top-20 ranked team. It will be short-lived, as other continental competitions after will equalize the points. Still, I can see us being ranked around 20 going into the next world cup if we win the Asian Cup, and have a strong world cup qualifying again.

[DR Strangemoosh]

Guardian's performance-based Power Ranking put Iran in 17th:

https://www.theguardian.com/football...a-lead-the-way

17) Iran


Mehdi Taremi may never forget the injury-time miss that, moments after Iran had been given a VAR-aided lifeline against Portugal, would have improbably won them both the match and Group G. He had also fluffed an opportunity to equalise against Spain; Iran looked extremely useful in most departments and would have been a fascinating prospect in the round of 16.

[rdwrrr]

FIFA rankings suck
They are so biased towards europe
Portugal gets over 100 more points for beating Morocco than us
Also Spain gets about 70 points more for tying Portugal than us
European countries get more points for beating Andora that we would get if we beat Japan

[RaginG Inferno]

FIFA rankings suck
They are so biased towards europe
Portugal gets over 100 more points for beating Morocco than us
Also Spain gets about 70 points more for tying Portugal than us
European countries get more points for beating Andora that we would get if we beat Japan

Interesting - how so?

[Paradigm]

Guardian's performance-based Power Ranking put Iran in 17th:

https://www.theguardian.com/football...a-lead-the-way

17) Iran


Mehdi Taremi may never forget the injury-time miss that, moments after Iran had been given a VAR-aided lifeline against Portugal, would have improbably won them both the match and Group G. He had also fluffed an opportunity to equalise against Spain; Iran looked extremely useful in most departments and would have been a fascinating prospect in the round of 16.

I have to say though, that was not a penalty kick. The ball did not hit the Portuguese defender's hand. All Fox Sports anchors said the same thing.

[AsOen5]

I have to say though, that was not a penalty kick. The ball did not hit the Portuguese defender's hand. All Fox Sports anchors said the same thing.

Again the discussion..
The ball hit his hand, that was clear. Almost everyone saying that it wasnt a penalty said that it hit his hand. The arguments of those saying it wasn't was another. You could also see it when you watch closel, that his hand shaked a little when the ball touched his hand

[Sam van Dam]

I have to say though, that was not a penalty kick. The ball did not hit the Portuguese defender's hand. All Fox Sports anchors said the same thing.

i agree. however there was three instances where our players were taken down in the box, no call, no VAR review. we were bound to get a call at some point. would have been much better around minute 70 when William tackled either Azmoun or Taremi, as we'd have 20+ minutes to complete a comeback instead of 2 minutes, which we surprisingly almost did

[versusdamon]

FIFA rankings suck
They are so biased towards europe
Portugal gets over 100 more points for beating Morocco than us
Also Spain gets about 70 points more for tying Portugal than us
European countries get more points for beating Andora that we would get if we beat Japan

Wow, just made up some facts?

Iran got:
50 * (1 - 0.521) = + 26.05 points for the win against Morocco
50 * (0.5 - 0.089) = + 20.5 points for the tie against Portugal
50 * (0 - 0.167) = - 8.35 points for the loss against Spain

Portugal got
50 * (1 - 0.915) = + 4.35 points for the win against Morocco
50 * (0.5 - 0.910) = - 20.5 points for the tie against Iran
50 * (0.5 - 0.666) = - 8.3 points for the against Spain

Morocco got 17.2 points from the tie against Spain.

So in sum:
Iran + 38,2
Morocco - 13,2
Spain - 0,5
Portugal - 24,5

[rdwrrr]

Interesting - how so?

The Fufa calculations have a confederation factor
0.99 for Europe and South America
0.85 for Africa and Asia

So if the Asian team plays an Asian or African team the calculation have a 0.85 factor
For European to play an European od South American team the calculations get a 0.98 factor
For European team playing a Asian or African team the get a 0.82 factor which is the average of two factor

At the end all European teams get away from playing Asian or African teams in friendly games because it drop their ranking
Long term it effects the rankings even more since all European teams get higher pointd their ranking moves up and then next time they play they would have higher ranking points also

Eventually over a long period it tilts the ranking towards Europe
So you may get a crappy European footballing country being ranked higher than Japan or Korea or even Iran

You should just looking at rankings today and see if these countries belong where they are
And do so all the way down to 100 don’t stop at top 20

[sarbaz]

Reply

Guys
Let’s not over exaggerate ok.
Japan is a very good team,did Asia proud and plas very fluid style of football but I still rank Iran slightly above them.
Iran was the best Asian team with the least amount of preparation vs good quality teams.
Japan played the best top teams in the world in the last year since qualification.
JFF’s annual budget is $250 million vs IFF’s $25 million.
Let’s not forget when Japan played Colombia they had a one man advantage for 80 minutes and they got lucky to qualify for the
Second round because of less yellow cards.
I am not trying to make excuses or be unfair but I mean we got lucky too, however you are gona see how good we will do when we will play Japan in Tokyo
In September for that friendly game.
Here is my ranking for Asia
Iran
Japan
Korea
Australia
Saudi Soosmars Arabia

[Paradigm]

Again the discussion..
The ball hit his hand, that was clear. Almost everyone saying that it wasnt a penalty said that it hit his hand. The arguments of those saying it wasn't was another. You could also see it when you watch closel, that his hand shaked a little when the ball touched his hand

The ball did not even brush the guy's hand. The referee gave the penalty under extreme pressure by the Iranian players. Also the Ronaldo penalty kick earlier was more like a 30-70 decision, and most referees would not have awarded it. There are plenty of imperfect calls in this tournament, eventhough VAR is supposed to help avert them. A lot more training is needed by FIFA to get their match officials up to speed.