Iran vs Qatar Player Ratings | Post Match Discussion

[Nokhodi]

Also, TM is justifiably taking alot of criticism from former players and coaches right now. They're right, TM was not at their best, but some of the criticism is unfair.
For example, Khodadad Azizi says beating Qatar doesn't deserve that much celebration - we've never had problems with Qatar!!!!
He forgets the disastrous game TM had in Doha in 1997 when all TM needed to do was tie!
Lol.

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عزیزی با بیان اینکه حریفان تیم ملی در بهترین شرایط خود بسر می*برند، اضافه کرد: در اولین روز این بازی*ها به همه ما ثابت شد که همه تیم*ها قدر هستند و نمی*شود هیچ حریفی را دست کم گرفت، البته این را هم بگویم که شکست قطر این قدر خوشحالی نداشت. اینکه ما از این برد به این شکل ذوق*زده شویم خوب نیست چرا که فوتبال ما هیچ وقت مقابل قطر مشکل نداشته است. توانایی فوتبال ایران خیلی بالاتر از این حرفاست که تیم*های اینچنینی سد راه صعود*مان به جام جهانی شویم و باید از داشته*های*مان به نحو احسن استفاده کنیم.

[Nokhodi]

That doesn't hide the fact that what CQ, Nekounam, Azmoun did or said was totally stupid and shame. On top of that bitching at referee on every single occasion, isn't a Déja-Vu for many of us?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Was it the most classy behavior? I would say no.
Was it something that violated the rules? no.

I get what you're saying. We like to see all our players and coaches be well mannered and behaved, but this refereeing issue has truly become a killer and pain for us in Asian football (and world football).

Yes, once in a million years a ref has been more lenient to us, but when it really matters we get bad refs (Iran-Saudi 96, Iran-Qatar 97, Iran-Bahrain 01, Iran-China 04, Iran-Uzbeksitan (home, 2013), Iran-Iraq (2015)... and many more that you're aware of)

We have no one in any executive position in AFC or FIFA so they constantly crap all over us and this has become a "oghde" for the players and staff.

CQ has always been one to aggravate refs and executives. Its one of the main reasons he worked for Sir Alex and it seems to work for TM. It unites the team. If anyone else tried the things he does I would be upset, but so far his method has worked so I can't fault him.

Azmoon is young, and young players always say odd things. Many more talented players have said even worse things. As long as he delivers and doesn't hurt TM, I don't mind.

Nekounam's only mistake was coming onto the field. After reviewing the videos it became clear the Qataris are the ones who actually started the fight. And honestly I think he was told by CQ to run in front of the bench to tick the Qataris off more.

My only fear is we play in the AFC which is a corrupt criminal organization. I remember Makani was punched in the face in 2013 yet AFC suspended hims 3 games and the Korean team got nothing.
In the end, TM won. We were all emotionally wound up. I am not surprised the game became such a heated cauldron. Congratulations to us fans.

Now I hope TM plays much better, and more importantly wins in China. For once I'd like TM to qualify for World Cup without aging me (and all other fans) 10 years!

[Nader25]

I hadnt seen this viedo untill now:

Va Vaj che kare badi kard Nekoo raft too zamin, bazi hanooz tamoom nasheh bood, bavar kardani nist.
Shod dastane Mongolians by the Olympics...
Aseman ma Iraniha kai yadmigrim belakhare....

[Tehranto]

I love the commemorate between the boys. From Azmoun going to kiss Reza to Andranik protecting Nekonaum. This is very important and builds team harmony.

But Javad should not have been on the field. We cannot engage in these kind of games. Our footballing game is much better than others so we need to stick to that.

[Nokhodi]

Also, everyone watch this clip.
It shows how the fight started.

Nekounam only celebrated, and then one of the Qataris slapped him in the face and that's when things got messy.

Qataris couldn't take it that someone was celebrating and their time wasting didn't work. Funny how time becomes so urgent to them only when losing.

If this video is shared, AFC won't be able to do much. However it is AFC so they would ban even our dogs if they could.

I thought the Qatari coach is classy, but looking at this video, he's vahshi and hot headed and tried getting in the middle of all the fights. No wonder CQ was smiling at the end. He ticked them off again with his mental games

[littlepersia17]

What was quite interesting is that the whole Qatar team had been together for about 4 weeks and had 25+ training sessions prior to the game against us and 6 friendlies.
And the two players who scored yesterday (Jahanbakhsh, Ghoochannejhad) just arrived on Monday and spent 2 (!) training sessions with TM!

So they missed out on their holidays, and couldn't beat us.

Things couldn't get any worse for the Qatari no-stars.

[04041374]

What was quite interesting is that the whole Qatar team had been together for about 4 weeks and had 25+ training sessions prior to the game against us and 6 friendlies.
And the two players who scored yesterday (Jahanbakhsh, Ghoochannejhad) just arrived on Monday and spent 2 (!) training sessions with TM!

[Nader25]

Some good Points in your post

hehe how true this: (Oh Karimi take the ball from our side, dribble all the opposite side and score! Oh Azmun please score a goal when you have no service,).

Agree: The icing on the cake with this CQ crook is the selection of Rezaian and Taromi and their inclusion in the line up yesterday. That's inexcusable. Not only these two clowns aren't famous for their incredible quality but they showed to the whole world they doesn't have professional and mental capacity for high level

[PSGman#19]

I hope CQ is ashamed to produce such performance against a toothless Qatari team. This so-called big coach relied on pure luck so many time and can thank Gucci who save him from so many shameful production. I won't speak about all his drama about resignation, complain, critics in international media, Croatia friendly cancelled.

CQ is there from 2011, it is more than 5 years the guy pick up the same core of players and his team cannot succeed in doing more than two passes. In Iran, we (media, fans) rely too much on players ability (Oh Karimi take the ball from our side, dribble all the opposite side and score! Oh Azmun please score a goal when you have no service,). One day we should expect a team work, beautiful passes etc.. And that's what we should expect from a coach that is internatiolly known and who work there from 5 years. We can be happy about beating our qatari "friends" in that way but our performance was catastrophic and worrying! We will have a hard time even beating minnows like Syria if we lose the ball after two passes!

The most catastrophic about CQ is his players selections. The WC14 squad was bad (with the exclusion of Khalatbari and Azmun). His stuborness to take Shojaei, Heydari, Hajisafi,as a left back, etc... during so many games and preventing our young players to gain experiance is a scandal.

Dejagah is out of shape since a long time, displaying horrible performance. Ansarifard is NOT good. He is NOT GOOD!!! he can play in greece and score some goals there, he doesn't mean anything!! He can hardly score against guam!!! Gucci save CQ a$$ so many time, fight to play in Europe but remain in the Bench. Torabi was superb in all TM match and has no playing time.
The icing on the cake with this CQ crook is the selection of Rezaian and Taromi and their inclusion in the line up yesterday. That's inexcusable. Not only these two clowns aren't famous for their incredible quality but they showed to the whole world they doesn't have professional and mental capacity for high level. All the world saw that, even blind people but not mister CQ!!! INCREDIBLE!!!!

[Nader25]

A good Reading, recommend to read it:

http://footballitarin.com/link_page.php?id=319728

[Tehranto]

Gucci has perfect role now was a joker type. The Clutch Dutch fits perfectly into this role.

[Babak agha]

I'm sorry, but right now Gucci doesn't even come close to Azmoun in terms of general quality..
Sardar is our main striker for the time being and there should be no discussion about that (I also very much doubt CQ would ever bench Azmoun).
Gucci could be very effective for us off the bench, or as a second striker/left winger.

[pres80]

Beiranvand - 6,5 (Solid, did not deal well with crosses from the side)
Rezaeian – 5 (Decent going forward not effective though, too many long balls to no mans land, offers 0 coverage in defence)
Montazeri – 7 (Solid in defence, some nice last ditch tackles)
Hosseini – 7 (Solid in defence, no non-sense defending)
Hajsafi – 3 (Probably the worst player imo, did not offer anything in attack nor in defence aside from one good move on Soria, really disappointing crosses and his runs came to nothing in the end)
Ando – 5.5 (Invisible during large parts of the match, good distribution when in possession of the ball)
Ezzatollahi – 6,5 (Good aerial coverage, seemed confident on the ball, has to do better in distribution)
Dejagah – 5.5 (Couple of decent runs but lacked efficiency, did put in a lot of work and recovery)
Taremi – 5 (Lacked efficiency, worked hard upfront and battled well though)
Jahanbakhsh – 7 (Did well, scored a fine goal, couple of effective moves, grew into the match but was not always involved in moves forward especially in the first half in which he lost too many balls upfront, not consistent enough yet)
Azmoun – 5 (2 nice moves, should be much more present, lacked support but overall he did not do well in terms of positioning, dropping deep in midfield when needed or finding space between the lines to be available in attack)
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Amiri – 5.5 (Did not replace Dejagah with the same work rate, but was decent)
Ansarifard – 6 (Did well in terms of positioning, has a good instinct in finding space in attack, though his finishing, header, was off)
Ghoochannejhad 6.5 – (Should have started, fine goal, carried more attacking threat as he goes at it, did not see enough of him to really rate him)
MoM Seyed Jalal Hosseini &Montazeri
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In conclusion,
- We need other backs who can defend and support attack better
- More training on general tactics, like counter moves, positioning when applying pressure, positioning in attack and attacking from the flanks
- Better distribution from midfield ( 1 DM instead of 2)
- Gucci should start instead of Taremi or Azmoun, Taremi should be used when we are a goal up (to give the opposing team more resistance upfront)

Pretty much agree with you. Thanks a lot for taking emotion out of the ratings and just judging the performance, great post.

[Persinho]

Beiranvand - 6,5 (Solid, did not deal well with crosses from the side)
Rezaeian – 5 (Decent going forward not effective though, too many long balls to no mans land, offers 0 coverage in defence)
Montazeri – 7 (Solid in defence, some nice last ditch tackles)
Hosseini – 7 (Solid in defence, no non-sense defending)
Hajsafi – 3 (Probably the worst player imo, did not offer anything in attack nor in defence aside from one good move on Soria, really disappointing crosses and his runs came to nothing in the end)
Ando – 5.5 (Invisible during large parts of the match, good distribution when in possession of the ball)
Ezzatollahi – 6,5 (Good aerial coverage, seemed confident on the ball, has to do better in distribution)
Dejagah – 5.5 (Couple of decent runs but lacked efficiency, did put in a lot of work and recovery)
Taremi – 5 (Lacked efficiency, worked hard upfront and battled well though)
Jahanbakhsh – 7 (Did well, scored a fine goal, couple of effective moves, grew into the match but was not always involved in moves forward especially in the first half in which he lost too many balls upfront, not consistent enough yet)
Azmoun – 5 (2 nice moves, should be much more present, lacked support but overall he did not do well in terms of positioning, dropping deep in midfield when needed or finding space between the lines to be available in attack)
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Amiri – 5.5 (Did not replace Dejagah with the same work rate, but was decent)
Ansarifard – 6 (Did well in terms of positioning, has a good instinct in finding space in attack, though his finishing, header, was off)
Ghoochannejhad 6.5 – (Should have started, fine goal, carried more attacking threat as he goes at it, did not see enough of him to really rate him)
MoM Seyed Jalal Hosseini &Montazeri
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In conclusion,
- We need other backs who can defend and support attack better
- More training on general tactics, like counter moves, positioning when applying pressure, positioning in attack and attacking from the flanks
- Better distribution from midfield ( 1 DM instead of 2)
- Gucci should start instead of Taremi or Azmoun, Taremi should be used when we are a goal up (to give the opposing team more resistance upfront)

[Amin_]

I can't believe Taremi played from the left, I really thought he would be playing right behind Azmoun. He was really weak! Overall the left side was really weak!
Our fullbacks were kinda non-existent! Montazeri was the MOM imo.


Things definitely have to improve but I'm extremely happy with the win. It was one of the sweetest in the last 10 years for sure!