Syria, Iraq & North Korea have players in Serie A....where is our youth heading?

[Mr Pouya]

Ya lets watch a league where an amateur team is dominating
With a coach that was a laughing stock in Italy

Why do you always turn everything into Serie A vs other leagues.

Brah you've been on this forum for over 10 years and over 30k of posts and every other post of yours is " EPL sucks, Serie A "

Fucking 35 years old, grow up a bit you delusional fuck!

[Tehranto]

learn to read before typing an essay

i already said in my post that JB, Azmoun and Jahanbakhsh are our future and they are good. So i dont get why everyone is wasting their time trying to justify them being in a better position. My post was about our youth in general and the lack of progress we've made over the years. Compared to even 10 yrs ago we are in a worse condition and you guys are in deep denial.

What? Have you seen how stacked our youth are? Some names: Azmoun, ARJ, Torabi, Ezzatollahi, Milad Mohammadi, Shojaeian, Reza Shekari, Mehdi Taremi etc. So now you complain about it?

Sidenote: Iraq has players retiring at "29-30 years old!" lol They are only hurting themselves by cheating in these Under-tournaments.

Don't backtrack: What you actually did was compare us to the likes of North Korea (didn't qualify to last round of WC), Iraq (barely qualified, could only beat Thailand and Vietnam 1/ out of 4 times), and Syria (God bless them but really, come on); cause they have some players in some youth teams and a 28 year old got noticed for being an over-ager in an U-20 team into one of the worst Italian teams? Backtracking now, huh? Seria A sucks and is not in the same category as La Liga, EPL, Ligue 1 or Bundesliga. Especially not a bottom-dweller like Udinese.

[Tehranto]

Udinese has had issues this year but they did beat Juve at the beginning of the season. They have also beat the likes of Liverpool and Arsenal couple of yrs ago when they were top 5 team. Not sure where your confidence of Rostov a team that is barely making EL next season beating a team like Udinese comes from is beyond me. Lets not even mentio AZ who got dead last in EL group which was relatively easy. Again this is all irrelevant to my post because it had nothing to do with Udinese, JB, Azmoun and them...yet you guys keep going on and on about it.

Yes it does! You are essentially saying "compare their youth with ours" and we are! And the fact we are so much more stacked kind of kills your point. We are staying on point by comparing our youth (Azmoun, ARJ, Ezzatollahi etc.) to theirs.

[Tehranto]

Guys, soon-to-be 25-year-old (who the hell knows his actual age, this is Iraq we are talking about) Yasin Kasim is probably Iraq's best player and he plays in League One. Don't let the name of the league fool you, that's the THIRD highest league in England. While a 17-year old Iranian today - Alex Samizadeh - made his debut tonight in the English CHAMPIONSHIP (2nd highest level in England).

I wish we had Iraq's players.

you guys seriously smokin crack if you think russian and dutch teams are better than Serie A

Bro, were you one of those people who use to tell girls that you're "Half-Italian, Half-Puurrsian" - you can be honest.

[Z Joon]

Guys, soon-to-be 25-year-old (who the hell knows his actual age, this is Iraq we are talking about) Yasin Kasim is probably Iraq's best player and he plays in League One. Don't let the name of the league fool you, that's the THIRD highest league in England. While a 17-year old Iranian today - Alex Samizadeh - made his debut tonight in the English CHAMPIONSHIP (2nd highest level in England).

I wish we had Iraq's players.



Bro, were you one of those people who use to tell girls that you're "Half-Italian, Half-Puurrsian" - you can be honest.

That's sad for Iraq seriously...

[EKBATAN]

Why do you always turn everything into Serie A vs other leagues.
Brah you've been on this forum for over 10 years and over 30k of posts and every other post of yours is " EPL sucks, Serie A "
Fucking 35 years old, grow up a bit you delusional fuck!

wtf you talking about?? you started this shit and expect me to say nothing? i never bring this stuff up unless its you or others with your insecure crap


read post #24 of this thread and your punk ass remark that had nothing to do with this thread. And now i'm the asshole for responding?

[EKBATAN]

What? Have you seen how stacked our youth are? Some names: Azmoun, ARJ, Torabi, Ezzatollahi, Milad Mohammadi, Shojaeian, Reza Shekari, Mehdi Taremi etc. So now you complain about it?
Sidenote: Iraq has players retiring at "29-30 years old!" lol They are only hurting themselves by cheating in these Under-tournaments.
Don't backtrack: What you actually did was compare us to the likes of North Korea (didn't qualify to last round of WC), Iraq (barely qualified, could only beat Thailand and Vietnam 1/ out of 4 times), and Syria (God bless them but really, come on); cause they have some players in some youth teams and a 28 year old got noticed for being an over-ager in an U-20 team into one of the worst Italian teams? Backtracking now, huh? Seria A sucks and is not in the same category as La Liga, EPL, Ligue 1 or Bundesliga. Especially not a bottom-dweller like Udinese.

im saying if these countries that dont do shit on the big stage can export some players into a league Serie A then we should have at least 10 of them out there. Hala forget Serie A, they should be in la liga, bundesliga, England or France



and you really expect syria, iraq and n. korea to make the WC? show how delusional you are, 2 of them are barely even a country, im surprised they have a team, and north korea is so isolated and doesnt have anything, yet they can win some youth tournaments. when the fukk was the last time we won any youth tournaments OR made the olympics? what a joke

[persian8iran]

[Tehranto]

im saying if these countries that dont do shit on the big stage can export some players into a league Serie A then we should have at least 10 of them out there. Hala forget Serie A, they should be in la liga, bundesliga, England or France



and you really expect syria, iraq and n. korea to make the WC? show how delusional you are, 2 of them are barely even a country, im surprised they have a team, and north korea is so isolated and doesnt have anything, yet they can win some youth tournaments. when the fukk was the last time we won any youth tournaments OR made the olympics? what a joke

Agha, the only one who has gone to any thing in youth is Iraq because they cheat!! Left, right and center. That's why they have players retiring at "30" and "31" - last week a "29" year old quit! We use to the same thing 15 years ago. Glad we stopped cheating and our youths have benefited from it.

Again, YOU brought up these countries, now you're saying "oh, who cares about these countries?" Look, Having three of your youngest players in Russia on top teams is very good. Having one of your youngsters - who was the best player in the 2nd division - on one of Holland's best teams is good. Having one of the top scorers in Greece is good. Who the hell cares if Adnan plays sparingly in one of the worst teams in Serie A. Last time, Shojaei was on Osasuna and was playing regularly and scoring yet most of you cursed him! Stop with the nonsense double standards.

This kind of attitude only comes up when it concerns other West Asian teams.

[EKBATAN]

Agha, the only one who has gone to any thing in youth is Iraq because they cheat!! Left, right and center. That's why they have players retiring at "30" and "31" - last week a "29" year old quit! We use to the same thing 15 years ago. Glad we stopped cheating and our youths have benefited from it.

Again, YOU brought up these countries, now you're saying "oh, who cares about these countries?" Look, Having three of your youngest players in Russia on top teams is very good. Having one of your youngsters - who was the best player in the 2nd division - on one of Holland's best teams is good. Having one of the top scorers in Greece is good. Who the hell cares if Adnan plays sparingly in one of the worst teams in Serie A. Last time, Shojaei was on Osasuna and was playing regularly and scoring yet most of you cursed him! Stop with the nonsense double standards.

This kind of attitude only comes up when it concerns other West Asian teams.

Again i will reiterate this..............I brought up Iraq, Syria, N.Korea as an example of countries with nothing and no help having players in a top league. It doesnt matter if some of them are just youth squad, they still got there somehow. A country like us with history of players like Daei, Mahdavikia, hashemian, nekunam, karimi, etc.....we should be having like 10 of these guys out there. Even if they arent in a top team, at least be in 1st division of one of the top 5 leagues.

Playing a few games in Russia isnt gonna get you an Arsenal contract like everyone thinks Azmoun is gonna get.
Jahanbakhsh also needs to score and assist more to get a look by even a Udinese. Now again Udinese is just an example, not a prime destination.

Look at s.Korea, Japan, and see where they are vs. where we are. Now granted its IR and lack of spending that holds us back but still, we have regressed. There is no hope for Syria, Iraq, N.Korea, i never said they are a threat. It was just an example...if they have guys there, we need to have like 20 in those youth systems.

[perspolis#1]

Look at s.Korea, Japan, and see where they are vs. where we are. Now granted its IR and lack of spending that holds us back but still, we have regressed. There is no hope for Syria, Iraq, N.Korea, i never said they are a threat. It was just an example...if they have guys there, we need to have like 20 in those youth systems.

Cant compare with Japan/SK. Those include factors outside of our control. Some clubs buy those players to open up markets in Asia. Since all jerseys in Iran are fake they wouldnt make money from an Iranian player. Then if one Japanese player and one Iranian one are both looked at by a club, Japans will get chosen everytime.

Its probably annoying to the clubs that China sucks so much. Think of the money they get if Chinese players were good enough to play in Europe.

[Kian Persepolis]

Playing a few games in Russia isnt gonna get you an Arsenal contract like everyone thinks Azmoun is gonna get.

He did

[GoIran]

Cant compare with Japan/SK. Those include factors outside of our control. Some clubs buy those players to open up markets in Asia. Since all jerseys in Iran are fake they wouldnt make money from an Iranian player. Then if one Japanese player and one Iranian one are both looked at by a club, Japans will get chosen everytime.

Its probably annoying to the clubs that China sucks so much. Think of the money they get if Chinese players were good enough to play in Europe.

But they are doing well on the pitch. Okazaki is a starter for Leicester (1st place in EPL) and Son is a starter for Spurs (2nd in EPL). Under Branko, we had several starters in the top leagues. Mahdavikia, Zandi, Hashemian and Rezaei. But today we have none. Azmoun has a huge potential but he is still a raw talent who has started only 8 times out of 16 games this season. Gucci struggled in the English second tier. Ansarifard is good in Greece but he failed in Segunda division. Even Ando at his peak failed to make an impact in EPL.

[perspolis#1]

But they are doing well on the pitch. Okazaki is a starter for Leicester (1st place in EPL) and Son is a starter for Spurs (2nd in EPL). Under Branko, we had several starters in the top leagues. Mahdavikia, Zandi, Hashemian and Rezaei. But today we have none.

Im not saying that they dont deserve to be there. But its much easier for them to gain exposure based on other factors than their play. Especially when you notice that Irans politics were better in 2006 than until recently.

Its a drought at the moment but it will improve.

[teammelli91]

Adnan is a good player.

I don't know anything about the Korean player or the Syrian kid.