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Do you consider Afghans and Tajiks as Persian or not?
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Tajiksitan was a Qajar dependency under Khanate of Khiva and Emirate of Bukhara until it was conquered by Russians.
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Originally posted by Zamboor View PostYou guys know that Afghanistan and Tajikstan are separatists of Iran right? How can you welcome them back when they destroyed our glorious country and its borders.
Tajikestan was never part of Iran to be stolen or be considered as separatists! Afghanistan was separated by the Brits for a very long time ago.Originally posted by Nokhodi View PostTajikistan - stolen by the Russians. They never had separatist tendencies.
Afghanistan - I have no idea.
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Yes, I consider Tajiks and Afghans Persian.
And I hope one day they progress in football, so all three countries can dominate the arabs in Asia.
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Persian is an ethnicity so who are we to decide? if they are, then they are, if they're not, they're not.
What I'm really trying to say is, who the fuck cares?
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Persians also live in other cities and provinces other than the province Pars and Shiraz, fe Mashhad, Tehran, Esfahan, Yazd, Hamedan and many many other cities/places in Iran. Furthermore Iranians of all backgrounds can refer to themselves as Persian as it refers to their glorious and rich history. Many people have the wrong assumption that Persia no longer exists. Iran and Persia are not mutually exclusive, they mean the same mate.Originally posted by Mir Javad View PostLol that always happens to me. I was brought up in Australia, speak like an Australian and act like one and still some Aussies insist I am not one of them. I have an Iranian Passport which I have hardly ever used and just kept it for like the sake of keeping one. But I have an Australian passport which I always use and proud of using everywhere in the world.
Basically I always try to insist to people I am Australian first and Iranian second. I always hope there isn't any contradiction.
If your from places like Shiraz and other places in Fars which have historically been considered Persian you can like call yourself Persian but what if your from other places in Iran? The use of Iranian like easily incorporates and ties together all the diverse peoples of our plateau instead of insisting everyone is like Persian if your from Iran.
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You are reading it wrong. That refers to homo Sapien origin of current human who came out of Africa. And it refer to my ancestors going back in history...Originally posted by ali alipour View PostSo black people are one level above monkeys
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So black people are one level above monkeysOriginally posted by PersianLegion View PostI am always proud of being this from my first prefrances to the least ....
DalghozAbadian>Iranian>Persian>Kurdish>Russian>... ..>Jewish/Arab>...>African>...>Monkey>...>Bacteria....>void
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I am always proud of being this from my first prefrances to the least ....
DalghozAbadian>Iranian>Persian>Kurdish>Russian>... ..>Jewish/Arab>...>African>...>Monkey>...>Bacteria....>void
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Lol that always happens to me. I was brought up in Australia, speak like an Australian and act like one and still some Aussies insist I am not one of them. I have an Iranian Passport which I have hardly ever used and just kept it for like the sake of keeping one. But I have an Australian passport which I always use and proud of using everywhere in the world.Originally posted by persianpopinjay View PostIt's such a common (and irritating) mistake though.
When people come up to you and ask 'What's your nationality?' Australian....
'No, no *insert awkward laugh here* - I meant your nationality?'
Basically they're asking you to contradict what it says on the passport.
Basically I always try to insist to people I am Australian first and Iranian second. I always hope there isn't any contradiction.
If your from places like Shiraz and other places in Fars which have historically been considered Persian you can like call yourself Persian but what if your from other places in Iran? The use of Iranian like easily incorporates and ties together all the diverse peoples of our plateau instead of insisting everyone is like Persian if your from Iran.Originally posted by sirvan View PostHow ironic then that you are a member of Persian football dot com. Persia still exists mate, ever heard of the Iranian province Fars/Pars?
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It's such a common (and irritating) mistake though.Originally posted by RaginG Inferno View PostDon't confuse nationality with ethnicity. Kurds are genetically and linguistically Iranian. If I become a Kenyan citizen, that only means I am a Kenyan national, with Iranian ethnicity.
When people come up to you and ask 'What's your nationality?' Australian....
'No, no *insert awkward laugh here* - I meant your nationality?'
Basically they're asking you to contradict what it says on the passport.Last edited by persianpopinjay; 05-23-2015, 04:09 PM.
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How ironic then that you are a member of Persian football dot com. Persia still exists mate, ever heard of the Iranian province Fars/Pars?Originally posted by pdot View PostReally no one is no longer Persian as Persia no longer exists. We are Iranian.
You can go ahead and define yourself as Persian but so can Afghans, Pakistanis, etc.
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Don't confuse nationality with ethnicity. Kurds are genetically and linguistically Iranian. If I become a Kenyan citizen, that only means I am a Kenyan national, with Iranian ethnicity.Originally posted by Mir Javad View PostYes Iranian linguistically speaking but in the modern definitions it really depends on what citizenship you hold and what modern-day country you or your parents were born in. According to those definitions some Kurds can be Turkish, Iranian, Iraqi or even Syrian.
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Haha good point. I just came up with the thought that I wrote down, did not do much research around it. But it does makes sense. Give me some time to come back with an answer to your questionOriginally posted by KC McElroy View PostHow does this explain Engelestan, Lahestan or Majarestan?
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Also Takestan, Bostan,Originally posted by KC McElroy View PostHow does this explain Engelestan, Lahestan or Majarestan?
Takestan = Tak Ostan... Grape Province...
Bostan = Bo Ostan means ... Smelly province
Turks call Yunan (Greece) as Yunanistan... does that make it another Iranian province?
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How does this explain Engelestan, Lahestan or Majarestan?Originally posted by Iranian-Patriot View PostAll these countries ending in Ostan were once part of Iran and are Iranian land. Tajik Ostan, Gherghiz Ostan, Afghan Ostan, arab Ostan, Pak Ostan etc. They were Ostans of Iran and part of our land. Some even to a larger extent of their current land like arab Ostan probably included Iraq, Syria, Kuwait, Oman, Yemen, UAE, Qatar and all the other small Persian Gulf countries and beyond.
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