Do you consider Afghans and Tajiks as Persian or not?

[Dejagah#21]

Persian is a race.

Iranian is a nationality.

Afghans are neither, some Tajik's consider themselves Iranian...

We have Iranian-Arabs, Iranian-Azeri's, Iranian-Baluchi among others including Iranian-Persians...

Persian's birthplace is the province of Fars(Shiraz).

what a bunch of bs!!! So you are not persian if you and jad-dar-jadet are born in tehran??

[Ali.Karimi79]

Well, they're not ethnically Persian (after all, even in Iran, the Persians are only one of the many diverse ethnic groups), and linguistically not all of them could be considered Persian either, e.g. Pashtuns (although I'm not sure if you're counting Pashtuns in with the Afghans, but since you're referring to their national leagues, I'm going to assume so).
They are an Iranian people though.

I basically said the exact same thing before you, so why neg repping me? wtf.

[sedee91]

Hey Mods, why isn't this in the General Discussion Forum?

[irani8perspolis]

I clicked yes for both, but this question is incorrect. No, they are not Persians, BUT they are a Iranic people so thats why I chose both. So they are in the same family as Persians but not exactly.

[xerexes]

Persian is a race.

Iranian is a nationality.

While it's true that Iranian is a nationality, Persian is an ethnicity, not a race. Similar to the way Japanese and Vietnamese are ethnic groups but neither by itself is a race.

[golffan]

This is wrong poll. The problem is that you have not defined what you mean by Persians? Iran has always been multi cultural. Even before Aryan came to Iran, there were people living in Iran. If by Persians you mean Farsi speaking people only, your question is wrong. If by Persian, you mean people in Greater Iran, Then your question is correct. Remember that for example, the People in Azerbaijan, spoke Farsi before Mongols and Turks attached and conquered Iran and settled their capital in Azerbaijan. Race did not change. Language was forced to change. You can hardly see Turkish or Mongol looking people in Azerbaijan. It would be good to change your question in the poll first.

So, my reply is people in Tajikistan, south Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, Tajikistan are all Iranians ethnically.

[Karimi 8]

I consider them more as our "cousins" than as Persians. I would welcome them to this board, but in general I do not think they are Persians, they are their own people, their own country, and some of them share the same language and cultural traits as us but that still doesn't make them Persian to me. Many Iranians aren't even Persian, we are very diverse, so I don't think what I am saying is wrong.

[Ghomarbaaz]

Off Course!
The Empire of Persia stretched all the way to middle of Russia from north and to India from East and Turkey from west.
In fact, every country whose name ends with Stan (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Ghazaghistan, ...etc) were all states of the Empire... Stan in old
Farsi is like the word "Ostan" meaning state or province.

While it's true that Iran is the last state of the Empire of Persia still standing in it's own sovereign state, they are all Persian.

Only if they are white

[persianpopinjay]

Well, they're not ethnically Persian (after all, even in Iran, the Persians are only one of the many diverse ethnic groups), and linguistically not all of them could be considered Persian either, e.g. Pashtuns (although I'm not sure if you're counting Pashtuns in with the Afghans, but since you're referring to their national leagues, I'm going to assume so).
They are an Iranian people though.

[CHaMiLLionaire]

Persian is a race.

Iranian is a nationality.

Afghans are neither, some Tajik's consider themselves Iranian...

We have Iranian-Arabs, Iranian-Azeri's, Iranian-Baluchi among others including Iranian-Persians...

Persian's birthplace is the province of Fars(Shiraz).

[KC McElroy]

Their leagues are not considered part of this forum.

[khodam]

It is so oxymoron for a bunch of people who were born or raised outside Iran to vote on who is Persian and who is not. Anyway probably this is in the wrong forum.

[kia]

J/K. If they are good looking the are persian. If they are ug and javat they are not.

[kia]

Other: Only Tajiks and Afghans are considered Persian.