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  • O-ZoNe
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    Originally posted by Nokhodi View Post
    Basically it comes down to 2 things.

    1 - There is no money. IFF is extremely poor at getting good sponsors. This was one of things Dadkan and Farahani were both very good at.
    2 - He is ticked off at Torabian.
    Privatization, TV deals, ad revenue, and sponsorship...all things foreign to IFF and IPL unfortunately. Just addressing one of those things I listed would probably solve IFF money woes and drastically help the ailing IPL infrastructure and set up.

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  • Shantaram
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    Can some nice soul please translate this for me? My Parsi is'nt that great. Thanks.

    Cheers

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  • Nokhodi
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    Basically it comes down to 2 things.

    1 - There is no money. IFF is extremely poor at getting good sponsors. This was one of things Dadkan and Farahani were both very good at.
    2 - He is ticked off at Torabian.

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  • Bi-honar
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    Originally posted by Keano View Post
    The main disappointment for CQ is the lack of interest of IFF for financial backing of TM, its friendlies etc. There is no talk of him departing.
    It actually looks like his main problem is with the care-takers of TM taking care of everything but TM!

    Now that I know what he has been dealing with in detail, I totally understand why he's frustrated. These issues with flights, visas, hotels, kits, etc. are really annoying when they keep happening.

    Ultimately, he's saying can't IFF find one competent person from all of Iran who cares about TM rather than their own interests and who has enough organizational skills to handle these simple tasks?!

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  • Keano
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    Folks,


    I guess once again us along with the Iranian media are blowing things out of proportion and quote people out of context. If you watched the press conference and Kafashian interview neither party talk of parting their ways. Kafashian emphatically said CQ under the contract is bound to continue on his job as TM coach, and so are we.

    The main disappointment for CQ is the lack of interest of IFF for financial backing of TM, its friendlies etc. There is no talk of him departing.

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  • Bi-honar
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    Here's the good news:

    It looks like all the news organizations in Iran released the details of the press conference in stages! I guess everyone wanted to get a jump on it, but reporting bits and pieces really killed the essence of CQ's message.

    When I read the Varzesh 3 article now, it's about 4 times as long as it was this morning when I first checked it out. And I have to say that it leaves a completely different impression.

    He clearly says later on that he's not saying that he wants to split from the team, that he's committed to TM and the fans, and wants to do his job in the best way possible and that's going to be difficult under these circumstances.

    It looks like the hostage comment was also taken completely out of context by some news organizations. He's saying he's a hostage between the federation and tax office, figuratively, not that he's literally a hostage in Iran!

    Overall, he makes a lot of comments about the future and what's going to happen and what he likes to see, which was missing from the earlier releases and suggests he's staying for sure and is committed to TM.

    I encourage everyone to read the final version in its entirety. It makes MUCH more sense than it did this morning and I think you'll feel MUCH better about the prospects of CQ staying - although you'll definitely be pissed with IFF (more than before) reading some of the detailed examples he brings up, not to mention that someone called Portuguese people pirates!!!



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  • O-ZoNe
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    Originally posted by rugs View Post
    Bad examples. It's more like "Hey, can we fix the leaky bathroom so the ground isn't wet and I won't slip and fall and possibly hurt myself"

    Or

    "It's -10 degrees outside, could we have some heat?"

    Or

    "What's the point of me wearing gloves when I perform surgeries when they tear the moment I use them?"

    Or

    "How do you expect me to stitch this person's wound with crochet hook?(gholab doozi)?"
    I certainly agree with you...this is how IFF operates...sign now ask later...this time they have cornered themselves...anyone can see that inside or outside of Iran

    Sent from my ME173X using Tapatalk

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  • Afat11
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    Originally posted by rugs View Post
    Bad examples. It's more like "Hey, can we fix the leaky bathroom so the ground isn't wet and I won't slip and fall and possibly hurt myself"

    Or

    "It's -10 degrees outside, could we have some heat?"

    Or

    "What's the point of me wearing gloves when I perform surgeries when they tear the moment I use them?"

    Or

    "How do you expect me to stitch this person's wound with crochet hook?(gholab doozi)?"
    I'd say the best example is just this: No professional football coach can be asked to increase the standards of a nations football without financial investment. If the players cannot train professionally, you can never expect them to beat those higher ranked teams that they will meet in the World Cup without luck.

    Us winning any games in the last world cup would not have been fair in my opinion. We did not prepare like the other teams, we could barely play Trinidad and Tobago and Montenegro. We never know if our set friendlies will be canceled or not. CQ has no facilities, no money to pay for nice jerseys, camps, etc. and now the federation is taking Azmoun and Jahanbakhsh from him, when he and every rational person knew that our results would have been no different with them there or not. The youth team management is bad. We likely won't make it to the Olympics.

    This is not a jab at the players, the players are very good. The problem is, that Khakpour, or Daei, or any of these guys managing a TM or youth team = failure. There is no money at all behind those programs. At least CQ is a decent coach who can overcome some of these problems. I can guarantee if Khakpour was coach of TM, we would have dropped a few important games in WCQ 2014 and missed the tournament. If you don't believe me, see Ali Daei's tenure as coach.

    The difference between CQ and Daei is that CQ can get the team to perform when it matters. Not many coaches we have had could do that. Everyone likes to compare how Ghotbi got the same results as CQ in AC 2010 to the last Asian Cup, but keep in mind that our elimination in the QF of 2010 was justified and not a result of any controversy, as compared to our elimination in 2014. Further, Ghotbi was not the type of coach that his players rallied around in times of hardship. When it was looking like we weren't going to qualify for WC 2014, the players seemed like another team. They won those last 3 matches, and didn't skip a beat. When the chips were down against Iran, the players played with their hearts and minds to actually succeed. They didn't become so emotional that they conceded more goals.

    This is the difference between CQ and Ghotbi or Daei or Mayeli Kohan. So many times in the past, I have seen players lose their cool and disintegrate on the field when trailing in important matches. CQ has imposed a more tactical and more positive emotional intelligence into the players. They no longer play with their complex against Arabs, which our youth team still does. Our NT would not lose to Saudis at this point, and anyone who disagrees is stupid. Our youth team lost, because they don't have a coach like CQ. They still have the problems of the 2010 qualifying TM. Talent, but poor management and emotions.

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  • rugs
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    Originally posted by AminGP View Post
    Let me put it this way so you understand what he's going through.

    "Wife (CQ) wants to leave Husband (IFF) due to being unhappy with the way her husband (IFF) treats her and their life together. Wife (CQ) says she no longer wants to be married and wants a divorce, Husband (IFF) promises wife that he will change and he will work hard to make their life better but he doesn't. So again Wife (CQ) starts complaining and say she can't continue.

    Hope that helps
    I can see a reply like this:

    "The wife has too high expectations and she should expect to be treated bad. In Iran the wife cannot divorce without her husband's approval so IFF is just practicing their right."

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  • rugs
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    Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
    I hate to break it to you, but most people in the world feel this way about their employment and employer. I am sure the economic realities make it crappier in Iran, but I haven't heard very many people say "oh I can't use a pay raise" or "I need less time off"...around the water cooler if you aren't b*tching about your employer then you must be gossiping...
    Bad examples. It's more like "Hey, can we fix the leaky bathroom so the ground isn't wet and I won't slip and fall and possibly hurt myself"

    Or

    "It's -10 degrees outside, could we have some heat?"

    Or

    "What's the point of me wearing gloves when I perform surgeries when they tear the moment I use them?"

    Or

    "How do you expect me to stitch this person's wound with crochet hook?(gholab doozi)?"

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  • AminGP
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    Originally posted by Nokhodi View Post
    Calm down the drama people.
    These reporters are turning this into a soap opera.
    Let's all wait a few days. Things will be more clear then.
    That's what I did last time. I decided not to follow the news for a few days before Norooz and then I heard all over facebook that CQ has quit. I don't want this to happen again

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  • AminGP
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    Originally posted by clipsport View Post
    Like I said before, he had worked in Iran for 4 years. Then signed a 4 year extension after the WC. Now he is saying that given the conditions he is not going to promise any success.
    Let me put it this way so you understand what he's going through.

    "Wife (CQ) wants to leave Husband (IFF) due to being unhappy with the way her husband (IFF) treats her and their life together. Wife (CQ) says she no longer wants to be married and wants a divorce, Husband (IFF) promises wife that he will change and he will work hard to make their life better but he doesn't. So again Wife (CQ) starts complaining and say she can't continue.

    Hope that helps

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  • xerexes
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    Originally posted by pdot View Post
    Whatever way this ends up we can kiss goodbye to any good coach coming to coach Iran after this mess.
    As I've said before, what you're seeing here is what would happen with ANY top international coach working in this system for more than a year. None of the alternative names some here have been dreaming about would respond differently to decaying facilities and pathetic funding and logistics, not to mention late payments and confiscated passports.

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  • Nokhodi
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    Calm down the drama people.
    These reporters are turning this into a soap opera.
    Let's all wait a few days. Things will be more clear then.

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