Commentary about Iranian fans by swedish players & few pictures

[Bi-honar]

Do what your heart desires, not what someone else desires... wave the flag that you want and sing the anthem that you like. That's the only way to not bring politics into it.

[Shah Abbas]

Do what your heart desires

Even if it causes division and gives our country a bad image?
Honestly, if you don't like Allah flag then take the flag with 'Iran' in the middle, it's much better and creates less problems...

[euphory]

After reading your great reasoning here, I put my hands up as a sign of defeat.

IR doesn't represent Iran in what way? The high turn-out in elections every 4 years? Whether we like it or not, IR represents Iran both internally and externally (for now).
As for the Green band around Karimi's wrist is a sign against IR? Because, I always thought that was support for Mousavi who took part in IR Presidential elections, no?

By, all means feel free to take your Shir o Khorshid flag the 'true' flag of Iran and embarrass us further.

Screw elections, it doesn't mean anything they are rigged anyway under a dictatorship, people have no choice at all and we already have been embarrassed to the world so bad. Ofcourse i will wave the shir o khorshid flag, what are you going to do about it? Nothing and keep waving a flag just with 'iran' in the middle, thats not a flag lol.

Just for you

[TheBoss]

Even if it causes division and gives our country a bad image?
Honestly, if you don't like Allah flag then take the flag with 'Iran' in the middle, it's much better and creates less problems...

come on man, your name is Shah abbas. what was on flag of Iran during the time of Shah abbas? was it "Iran" in middle in english letters? or was it lion and sun? I think you know the answer to that question. even before we adopted green white and red, we had the lion and sun on our flags. that includes the flags used during the time of Shah abbas.

To be against lion and sun is to be against history. no people do this much damage to their history as Iranians.

[Shah Abbas]

Screw elections, it doesn't mean anything they are rigged anyway under a dictatorship, people have no choice at all and we already have been embarrassed to the world so bad. Ofcourse i will wave the shir o khorshid flag, what are you going to do about it? Nothing and keep waving a flag just with 'iran' in the middle, thats not a flag lol.

Just for you

Dadash, Please understand that what I feel after seeing this is not anger or koon soozi. I pity ourselves that we are not united in anyway, we even dispute the most basic symbol of a nation, its flag...


TheBoss, it's not about what we were before, it's about what we are today. What is our flag today?
I swear to God, if tomorrow our people revolt and the flag turns to Shir o Khorshid, I will wave that flag every where that I go. I explained earlier, waving the flag doesn't mean agreeing with all the evil that has been committed by the authority.

[Under Lahaf]

What a disgrace. I don't care what your political affiliation is, but when it comes to representing your COUNTRY, can't you just accept the international recognized flag?!

How embarrassing that our people can't even unite over football.

our people are united. you can see it from the pictures

I'll never understand why people bring politics into sports. You guys are the same ones who then criticize Iran when they pull out against an Israeli opponent. What would these people have lost using just a basic three-color flag?

no one is brining in politics, lion and sun is our flag

This is why we can't have nice things. It's going to be a long time before IFF allows another big-name friendly abroad again..

Maybe at some point... but the flag representing Iran RIGHT NOW does not have the shir o khorshid symbol in the middle. Have you seen it lately, say for the last 37 yrs?

so based on your argument if Islamic state continues to be in charge of Syria or takes over Iran, then we should all wave their flag after lets say 2 or 5 or 37 years???

[persian_pooya]

Source? Ever walked down the streets of Tehran and asked the ones actually living in the country? Or is the "most" you're referring to the ones who've went there when they were a year old, or never at all?

I actually have walked down the streets in Tehran and many other cities in Iran. I have many friends and family there and non of them view the current flag as legitimate and would change it if they could.

[Under Lahaf]

What a disgrace. I don't care what your political affiliation is, but when it comes to representing your COUNTRY, can't you just accept the international recognized flag?!

How embarrassing that our people can't even unite over football.

I'll never understand why people bring politics into sports. You guys are the same ones who then criticize Iran when they pull out against an Israeli opponent. What would these people have lost using just a basic three-color flag?

This is why we can't have nice things. It's going to be a long time before IFF allows another big-name friendly abroad again..

Source? Ever walked down the streets of Tehran and asked the ones actually living in the country? Or is the "most" you're referring to the ones who've went there when they were a year old, or never at all?

"Ever walked down the streets of Tehran?" well those walking down the streets of Tehran are NOT free, once they leave the country they end up being free and as you can see from football games most of them are in favor of lion & Sun. I can guarantee you one thing, they may not all be in favor of lion & sun, some might want X or Y but i am 100% that the Red Lobster is not supported by a majority.

[euphory]

our people are united. you can see it from the pictures
so based on your argument if Islamic state continues to be in charge of Syria or takes over Iran, then we should all wave their flag after lets say 2 or 5 or 37 years???

Nailed it !

[persianballer]

Do what your heart desires, not what someone else desires... wave the flag that you want and sing the anthem that you like. That's the only way to not bring politics into it.

Agreed.

[euphory]

TheBoss, it's not about what we were before, it's about what we are today. What is our flag today?
I swear to God, if tomorrow our people revolt and the flag turns to Shir o Khorshid, I will wave that flag every where that I go. I explained earlier, waving the flag doesn't mean agreeing with all the evil that has been committed by the authority.

So basically you are saying that you will go on your knees and happily raise the IR flag and show your support and when the flag changes you blindly raise another flag even if its the ISIS flag. Sorry but this is sheep mentality, you can't think for yourself and rather accept the system as it is than rather raising your voice and fight for your rights.

[Shah Abbas]

So basically you are saying that you will go on your knees and happily raise the IR flag and show your support and when the flag changes you blindly raise another flag even if its the ISIS flag. Sorry but this is sheep mentality, you can't think for yourself and rather accept the system as it is than rather raising your voice and fight for your rights.

Sorry, sheep mentality? I can't think for myself? Look at my previous statements and your replies. You didn't for once use any reasoning or logic to argue against my statements.
I will repeat again, waving a flag that is accepted both by the citizens and by the international community is what we must do. You can wave the IR flag and be against all the wrong things IR stands for. As Mousavi and Karoubi did, as Khatami does and as I do.

[euphory]

Sorry, sheep mentality? I can't think for myself? Look at my previous statements and your replies. You didn't for once use any reasoning or logic to argue against my statements.
I will repeat again, waving a flag that is accepted both by the citizens and by the international community is what we must do. You can wave the IR flag and be against all the wrong things IR stands for. As Mousavi and Karoubi did, as Khatami does and as I do.

False, the flag is forced my man, people aren't allowed to show their different opinions, just like the elections where the citizens are not allowed to chose who they want. So tell me if ISIS takes over Iran you will be waving its flag?

Thats not how it works in the real world, people will see you as a IR supporter meaning you are in favour of all their wrong doings. Just like how you see someone as political just because he is raising the shir o khorshid flag.

[Shah Abbas]

False, the flag is forced my man, people aren't allowed to show their different opinions, just like the elections where the citizens are not allowed to chose who they want. So tell me if ISIS takes over Iran you will be waving its flag?

There is no comparison between ISIS and IR.

Since, this is a Football thread, DM me and I will explain why there is no comparison between the two.
I have made all my arguments in a respectful manner in previous statements, I will no longer reply in this thread.

[arseces]

Commentary about Iranian fans by swedish players & few pictures

Based on your reasoning, if waving the IR flag is supporting Khomeini and oppression, then waving the Shir o Khorshid flag is supporting: Dictatorship, Savak mass torture and killing of Iranian people, MKO traitors... Do you want me to go on?



I'm your friend, the enemy is ignorance.

Speaking of ignorance this is where yours kicks in,

Shir o khorshid emblem is not a shahnshahi emblem its a 3000 year old emblem , long before shah was in power it was a known emblem amongst iranians, the previous dynasties before the Pahlavis used this emblem in the iranian flag

2 things happened her with your comment

1- you actualy didnt completely read my comment to see where i talk about the emblem and its origin and were quick to spread your anti pahlavi sentiment

2- at the same time you showed your historical illiteracy and ignorance, which truly is your enemy , and also your enemy (ignorance) wasted my time on providing you free education on the flag

Do a little more research before you comment