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CQ eventually signed the contract [photos]
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BTW, I have read mixed stuff in supposed CQ interviews about the signing. On some sites, they are reporting him saying that he expects Iran to win a medal in AC...others make no mention of this. I am hoping he expects Iran to medal in AC...as I feel even he realizes a lot hinges on TM's AC performance.
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4 years of the same? Our WC went beyond expatiation, all expected us to get raped by all 3 teams. It is not CQ fault that the IFF are bunch of monkeys, the I.R is still ruling Iran and the corruption and lack of infrastructure in iranian football. Our players went to Arab leagues to get money, instead of playing in Europe. Be realistic guys..Australia, South Korea & Japan have way better players than Iran.
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Nailed it! Don't forget, guys like Khalatbari and Azmoun are likely not even going to make the lineup if CQ's WC squad was any indication. We certainly have enough talent being left at home beyond the squad, but of course, CQ love is in the air.Originally posted by Doctor DOOM View PostWe have enough quality players to get us at least to the semis of Asia. This excuse making machine will be rolling out trash like rubbishing our players and everything just to provide a backdoor for CQ. Quite silly and nonsensical.
Again, how we do in this AC will determine CQ's final grade until 2018 for me. If we are not top 4, I believe he should be terminated...because in 2018, not only will Australia, Japan, S. Korea be ready, but expect bigger pushes from Uzbekistan, Jordan, UAE, Qatar, Oman, and even KSA.
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Even our 2010-2011 squad with only 2 legionnaires, Gholami as our striker, M.Nouri as playmaker, would have been expected to at least make the semis with the draw that we have been given.Originally posted by Doctor DOOM View PostWe have enough quality players to get us at least to the semis of Asia. This excuse making machine will be rolling out trash like rubbishing our players and everything just to provide a backdoor for CQ. Quite silly and nonsensical.
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We have enough quality players to get us at least to the semis of Asia. This excuse making machine will be rolling out trash like rubbishing our players and everything just to provide a backdoor for CQ. Quite silly and nonsensical.
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Although I don't agree with your ideology towards our road to the semis/finals (given how much the Asian game has strengthened over the years, in particular Qatar, UAE, and Iraq) I definitely strongly disagree that is is a weak team, let alone our weakest in the last 20 years lol.Originally posted by Camran khan View Postour weakest team in the last 20 years... lol.. You guys make it seem that our road to the semis are through our world cup group.. Eeven if this is our weakest team, all they have to do is beat the likes of motherfucking Qatar, Bahrain, UAE and Iraq..
This team is probably 30x as talented, experienced, and just on another level than our 2011 team that managed to finish with 9 points in a equally as challenging group plus an overtime loss to a very strong SK team.
The only thing to TMs disadvantage is the time that has been lost that unfortunately can't be made up for, but on a brighter note given despite our crappy World Cup prep, our players looked physically and mentally ready for the tournament.
Let's just hope CQ can pull off that readiness again and get better results, which we all know he is capable of.
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Post of the yearOriginally posted by ramingeles2000 View PostNo, he's not guaranteeing that. Because we have one of the weakest teams of the last 20 years. He can't go out and kick the ball for the players.
It's funny that people here are so fixated on the coach. A coach can only do so much. The problem is that we have extremely low talent levels. This happens to every national team, it's cyclical and natural.
If you need proof, consider this: after WC 1998 and WC 2006, we sent multiple players to European first division teams, where they started (mahdavikia, nekounam, shojaei, teymourian, etc). After this world cup, we had ZERO positive club outcomes for our players. ZERO!!!!
Now tell me, what control does CQ have over that?
I'm glad we're paying CQ because he's a professional, and frankly, I like him. He's an honest man and charismatic and most importantly, our players love him. Look at what Gucci and Shojaei (who btw, was benched!) had to say about him after the WC games. Shojaei said "we should build a statue of him" after the loss to Argentina. Now sorry Dr Doom, but Shojaei's opinion matters a lot more than yours, and means a lot more than yours.
If a player who was benched by a coach praises him, and others demand that his contract be renewed, that means something. Tell me the last time you heard a TM player praise the coach like that. NEVER.
Also, be thankful: for the first time in our history, we will have a top-level coach in charge for 5,6,7 maybe even 8 years if we go to WC2018, who will know our football intimately by then. Also, we have a coach who gives clear preference to players who go to Europe.
WTF more do you want? you're so goddamned annoying and predictable
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our weakest team in the last 20 years... lol.. You guys make it seem that our road to the semis are through our world cup group.. Eeven if this is our weakest team, all they have to do is beat the likes of motherfucking Qatar, Bahrain, UAE and Iraq..
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CQ eventually signed the contract [photos]
^as weak as our squad is, the route to at LEAST the semis should be an obligation for our team. No excuses. No SF at least: change coach and bring in new players.
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Originally posted by Doctor DOOM View PostOk. So a semifinal is now guaranteed, now that we have put such a high profile, international master coach?
Because if merely ''advancing from the group to reach the quarters and then bowing out'' is our fate, then we could easily do that with the likes of Veisi or Marfavi. With a fraction of expenses.
Is he guaranteeing at least a semifinal berth?
Btw, no sane person can compare hiring of CQ and hiring of Iranian players. Sanity doesn't allow it.
Our lads face a million obstacles to merely join a European team. And if by now you aren't aware of at least a dozen of these, then you should just stop following football altogether.
CQ has absolutely none of those problems. Not a single one. .... and yet ....
Makes you wonder.
No, he's not guaranteeing that. Because we have one of the weakest teams of the last 20 years. He can't go out and kick the ball for the players.
It's funny that people here are so fixated on the coach. A coach can only do so much. The problem is that we have extremely low talent levels. This happens to every national team, it's cyclical and natural.
If you need proof, consider this: after WC 1998 and WC 2006, we sent multiple players to European first division teams, where they started (mahdavikia, nekounam, shojaei, teymourian, etc). After this world cup, we had ZERO positive club outcomes for our players. ZERO!!!!
Now tell me, what control does CQ have over that?
I'm glad we're paying CQ because he's a professional, and frankly, I like him. He's an honest man and charismatic and most importantly, our players love him. Look at what Gucci and Shojaei (who btw, was benched!) had to say about him after the WC games. Shojaei said "we should build a statue of him" after the loss to Argentina. Now sorry Dr Doom, but Shojaei's opinion matters a lot more than yours, and means a lot more than yours.
If a player who was benched by a coach praises him, and others demand that his contract be renewed, that means something. Tell me the last time you heard a TM player praise the coach like that. NEVER.
Also, be thankful: for the first time in our history, we will have a top-level coach in charge for 5,6,7 maybe even 8 years if we go to WC2018, who will know our football intimately by then. Also, we have a coach who gives clear preference to players who go to Europe.
WTF more do you want? you're so goddamned annoying and predictable
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Ok. So a semifinal is now guaranteed, now that we have put such a high profile, international master coach?
Because if merely ''advancing from the group to reach the quarters and then bowing out'' is our fate, then we could easily do that with the likes of Veisi or Marfavi. With a fraction of expenses.
Is he guaranteeing at least a semifinal berth?
Btw, no sane person can compare hiring of CQ and hiring of Iranian players. Sanity doesn't allow it.
Our lads face a million obstacles to merely join a European team. And if by now you aren't aware of at least a dozen of these, then you should just stop following football altogether.
CQ has absolutely none of those problems. Not a single one. .... and yet ....
Makes you wonder.
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Originally posted by Hadi View Postjust like how iranian players were scooped up by top european teams?Originally posted by Paradigm View PostIt's because the IR has political problems with the European Union, so nobody wants to hire Iranian players there. You criticize anything here and they attack you as being an Israeli troll. Look at how Iran's U-23 just ended up doing in the Asian games.
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It's because the IR has political problems with the European Union, so nobody wants to hire Iranian players there. You criticize anything here and they attack you as being an Israeli troll. Look at how Iran's U-23 just ended up doing in the Asian games.Originally posted by Hadi View Postjust like how iranian players were scooped up by top european teams?
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