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  • K. Nader
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    Originally posted by rugs View Post
    Yeah, but that is a hard argument to make. It depends what type of person you are.

    Would you support a business that was owned by a Sepahi or Basiji if they offered good service?

    My answer would be no. I wouldn't support an entity that has questionable origins and actions, and on top of all that is rude, arrogant and a thug.

    GN gets results in a corrupt system. He has yet to produce any results outside of Iran.
    It goes far beyond him just getting results in a corrupt system. He's getting results in a corrupt system in which he himself is conducting illegal activities.

    Ghalenoei is a thug and Nekounam exposed him. Why Ghalenoei is not getting a lifetime ban is beyond me.

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  • rugs
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    Originally posted by persepolisfan View Post
    I think GN is a good coach and gets a lot of hate from the boards here undeservingly. He may be a bit laat, but he is so consistent that he deserves praise for his ability to get the results almost always.
    Yeah, but that is a hard argument to make. It depends what type of person you are.

    Would you support a business that was owned by a Sepahi or Basiji if they offered good service?

    My answer would be no. I wouldn't support an entity that has questionable origins and actions, and on top of all that is rude, arrogant and a thug.

    GN gets results in a corrupt system. He has yet to produce any results outside of Iran.

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  • persepolisfan
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    I think GN is a good coach and gets a lot of hate from the boards here undeservingly. He may be a bit laat, but he is so consistent that he deserves praise for his ability to get the results almost always.

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  • Ghermez Agha
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    Originally posted by PersianLegion View Post
    Cut their wages or keep them on the bench and get the result.
    That will lead to the same result: more bitching from the players. It's hard coaches like ghotbi and as much as I hate to say it, GN that will demand respect and hard work from their players. Cutting wages and benching only creates more problems. Anyone who has played a sport will tell you that playing under coaches who don't hold back from instilling some level of fear in his guys will tell you the same thing. We need to embrace such habits.

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  • PersianLegion
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    Originally posted by ghermez agha View Post
    Thank you! It's sad to see people looking at this in a negative light, these types of reactions and hard talks is what these soft IPL players need!
    Cut their wages or keep them on the bench and get the result.

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  • Ghermez Agha
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    Originally posted by Camran khan View Post

    And what is wrong with what Ghotbi did? Should he give them cookies and say ghorboneton beram when they play badly? A coach has to be like that.

    Thank you! It's sad to see people looking at this in a negative light, these types of reactions and hard talks is what these soft IPL players need!

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  • Camran khan
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    ^The fax problem

    And what is wrong with what Ghotbi did? Should he give them cookies and say ghorboneton beram when they play badly? A coach has to be like that.

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  • Ando Teymourian
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    That type of talk happens in all locker rooms in all sports. My hockey/soccer coaches yelled like that from ages 12-18.

    Its nothing surprising, and I don't think anyone is really upset with that aspect of GN's coaching anyway. Its the other things he does.

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  • rugs
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    Originally posted by PersianLegion View Post
    Ino nadide boodam ke didam. I just saw this, something similar to GN speech to Esteghalils.
    Lol, che rabti dare?!

    When Ghotbi or anyone else does this





    Or this





    and best for last, this






    Then we can say things like "similar to GN"

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  • PersianLegion
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    baba man khodam perspolisiam. He said the same thing GN told to his player that a f*** dwarf has pass them easily and he was so angry he knocked the whiteboard down.

    Albate Ghotbi kheili ba class tar va moadabtar as GN hast.

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  • irani8perspolis
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    Originally posted by PersianLegion View Post
    Ino nadide boodam ke didam. I just saw this, something similar to GN speech to Esteghalils.

    what is wrong with that? go inside the change rooms of bayern, real madrid, atleti, barca, chelsea and you will hear the same things

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  • PersianLegion
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    Ino nadide boodam ke didam. I just saw this, something similar to GN speech to Esteghalils.

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  • xerexes
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    ^ We're kind of going in circles here so I'll just repeat that when you look at shots on target, possession in the final third and the number of corners won, we clearly dominated our first round opponents in offense. Against UAE we had 4 shots to their zero and I believe also 12 corners to their 4.

    As for Haj Safi, your original point was we had no LB backups. We did. Our original backup was Beikzade who got injured and then we still had Hajsafi who had been our starting LB in the previous version of the same tournament. He didn't have a good outing after we went a man down against Iraq, but going into that match he had the form and experience to be trusted as a backup option to Pooladi. And one again let's not forget that we lost our first choice sub not because of coaching decisions but due to injury.

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  • PersianLegion
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    I don't take that as a clear excuse since by the time Qatar played against us CQ was on lead for more than a year. Even if we consider your argument as valid we know the Arabs can be hard to crack when they play park the bus method. Qatar, Bahrain, and UAE wanted to take us down in AC. UAE nearly had done it if Gucci didn't score that last minute goal and we won Qatar by only one goal too. We have to take this into account; they were playing in Australia which means non familiar weather and without their guns out! (home advantages Arabian style). Even with our full force and Gucci being on fire we managed a 1-0 in Doha while Qatari wanted to win so they were somehow open. Other evidence are also on the plate. Our friendlies against Belarus, Monte negro and Angola turned all in 0-0. Teams like Jordan, Oman, Qatar, or Kuwait can close the game and make our life a hard while Iraq or UAE (specially this one) can actually cause problem for us in near future. CQ experimented adding some more attacking strategies in last AC which somehow worked for us. If he fixes the back up LB and adds to our fire power by adding play makers and a younger attacking/defensive MFs we can have a better condition. My concerns are after we receive a goal in this formation we usually fall apart with the exception of Iraq match. In that particular match CQ brought Hajsafi back and Amiri in his position to fill Pooladi place. Amiri didn't come back to help Hajisafi and Hajisafi couldn't play as good as Pooladi in LB so we conceded two goals through this place. At the same time Amiri and Hajsafi put an enough pressure on Iraq and created some opportunities. That shows we can equalize if we increase the fire power on the sides but lack of a solid play maker to feed the AMFs or FWs was obvious. Khalatbari is the person to cover that area for the time being until we find a younger and stronger player.

    In brief:
    1. We need to have solid back up for LB and RB
    2. Find a playmaker
    3. Add to our fire power from the sides (our right wing is good with Dejagah, Jahanbakhsh and etc)

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  • xerexes
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    Originally posted by PersianLegion View Post
    Take a look at WCQ Iran-Qatar in Tehran to know what I am saying.
    Our current tactics under CQ didn't really come together until the last games of the qualifying. I personally wasn't even that big a fan of CQ until the world cup itself. Those early qualifying matches we really were in a period of transition both tactically and even in terms of players. CQ was experimenting with the lineup and didn't seem to find the players that could function in the system he had in mind. We just didn't have the tactical identity we do now. And the way we press doesn't have much to do with the opponent's need to win. We rarely let them get near our box. We pressure in their own half and launch attacks as soon as getting the turnover. Bahrain and UAE didn't HAVE to win against us at the Asian Cup. A tie was fine for both of them. We still beat both with the same system.

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