Iran was robbed, but can keep their heads high

[sycho67]

The irony in your hypocricy! Way to to rise above all of that in the same exact sentence!!! LMAO

I'm not emotional, yes I am above all that. Iran first, I don't give a shit about people picking sides, whether it's regime fanatics or those Reza Pahlavi loving Israel/US flag waving war-supporting traitors who supported Iran being bombed and damaged.

The Iranians I love are those who put Iran above anything, Amir Kabir, Gholamreza Takhti, Mossadegh, Hossein Fatemi, Shapour Bakhtiar, Ali Daei and countless others.

[Artaxerxes]

I'm not emotional, yes I am above all that. Iran first, I don't give a shit about people picking sides, whether it's regime fanatics or those Reza Pahlavi loving Israel/US flag waving war-supporting traitors who supported Iran being bombed and damaged.

The Iranians I love are those who put Iran above anything, Amir Kabir, Gholamreza Takhti, Mossadegh, Hossein Fatemi, Shapour Bakhtiar, Ali Daei and countless others.

Its because of blind traitors like yourself that give the regime more air to breathe with your constant "noble" bullshit.

Nang bar sefased, mullah, chapi va mujahed.

Javid shah, long live Reza Pahlavi that wants to implement democracy and free elections so even traitors like you can vote freely.

If it would be up to me you regime enablers would never set your foot in Iran again because of your stupid egoistic agendas that gave the regime lifelines so they could countinue to rape Iran and killing our innocent people just because you get a mental breakdown of the name Pahlavi.

You are really noble.......

Faghadr zer mizanin with no solution of your own.

Chapol braincells.

[OSTAD POOYA]

Its because of blind traitors like yourself that give the regime more air to breathe with your constant "noble" bullshit.

Nang bar sefased, mullah, chapi va mujahed.

Javid shah, long live Reza Pahlavi that wants to implement democracy and free elections so even traitors like you can vote freely.

If it would be up to me you regime enablers would never sat your foot in Iran again because of your stupid egoistic agendas that gave the regime lifelines so they could countinue to rape Iran and killing our innocent people just because you get a mental breakdown of the name Pahlavi.

You are really noble.......

Faghadr zer mizanin with no solution of your own.

Chapol braincells.

Bravo. 1000%. The guy brings up every possible excuse in the book while playing in the Islamic regimes court with arguments literally built on no foundation.

[webmaster]

So you believe an Iranian footballer on TM has 100% the choice to defy the government when it is trying to use it for PR ? I get your point, but tell me what you would do in their place ? (I am not talking about those like Shoja who openly expressed support for the IR)

your people should always come first not the government, They could at least shut their mouths. That would be a good sign that they support the people.

[webmaster]

it's so interesting how often these pahlavi-supporters are disrespectful low-iq pieces of shit as well. fuck the islamic regime, fuck reza pahlavi and fuck all low-iq Iranians that let their emotions run their thoughts because they have no grey matter to run them with

sorry but where exactly are you standing? if you mind your own business it would be better instead of trying to irritate people who think differently.

[Keano]

Learn not to politicize sports.

Don't you think the players and their coach were the ones whon politicized sport? When the players say they will dedicate every win and goal to Khamanei, don't you think it's politicizing the football and WC itself? Or do we see double standards here?

This was the only time in my life that I barely felt any sorrow over TM's loss and elimination of a tournament. Well last edition of the WC I somewhat felt almost the same...

Football is not life, football is not everything, World Cup for all nations is a reason to elebrate and forget about their miseries and hardships, but for me personally nothing can make me forget about over 40,000 innocent people getting killed by this regime, and ANYONE and I mean ANYONE who condones and supports the actions of this evil regime is my enemy!

[sycho67]

Don't you think the players and their coach were the ones whon politicized sport? When the players say they will dedicate every win and goal to Khamanei, don't you think it's politicizing the football and WC itself? Or do we see double standards here?

This was the only time in my life that I barely felt any sorrow over TM's loss and elimination of a tournament. Well last edition of the WC I somewhat felt almost the same...

Football is not life, football is not everything, World Cup for all nations is a reason to elebrate and forget about their miseries and hardships, but for me personally nothing can make me forget about over 40,000 innocent people getting killed by this regime, and ANYONE and I mean ANYONE who condones and supports the actions of this evil regime is my enemy!

you are quoting Shoja Khalilzadeh and who else ? maybe 1 or 2 more players ?

[sycho67]

sorry but where exactly are you standing? if you mind your own business it would be better instead of trying to irritate people who think differently.

I'm not at all trying to irritate anyone man, like I have said multiple times on this forum before, I am here to discuss football, if some come at me in response with insults and disrespect, I will respond with the same language and attitude they come at me with. If those who think differently communicate with respect I will always do the same.

[Keano]

you are quoting Shoja Khalilzadeh and who else ? maybe 1 or 2 more players ?

Do they have to directly mention their pro-IR sentiments? Their narative have consistently been pro-IR, to mention a few examples: Taremi's Press conference trying hard to normalize what happened 6 months ago in Iran by saying something to the lines of "these kinds of things are normal and happen in all other countries", Alipour saying "If he scores he will dedicate it to his rahbar and the IR" Or Rezeaian telling the journalist "If there is any problem between us, this is our business. This is none of your business. So I just respect you, but this is something between us and we are going to solve it." So the question is what exactly getting solved and who is solving it? The IR? How? By executing more and more protestors? Players like Rezaeian if truly don't side with the IR, the best they can do is to shut his mouth, and refrain from making such pathetic statements.

[webmaster]

^ by responding to everyone it clearly shows you are playing the devil's advocate. The majority in this thread think differently than you respect that and move on.

[FeLFeL]

I'm not at all trying to irritate anyone man, like I have said multiple times on this forum before, I am here to discuss football, if some come at me in response with insults and disrespect, I will respond with the same language and attitude they come at me with. If those who think differently communicate with respect I will always do the same.

Said the guy with a pic of Mossadegh as his avatar...

[ramingeles2000]

Do they have to directly mention their pro-IR sentiments? Their narative has consistently been pro-IR, to mention a few examples: Taremi is Press conference trying hard to normalize what happened 6 months ago in Iran by saying something to the lines of "these kinds of things are normal and happen in all other countries", Or Rezeaian telling the journalist "If there is any problem between us, this is our business. This is none of your business. So I just respect you, but this is something between us and we are going to solve it." So the question is what exactly getting solved and who is solving it? The IR? How? By executing more and more protestors? Players like Rezaeian if truly don't side with the IR, the best they can do is to shut his mouth, and refrain from making such pathetic statements.

with all due respect, none of these statements by the players support the idea that they're pro-regime, or that they're sympathetic to the regime. these 2 statements are pretty neutral.

i have no doubt that 2-3 (maybe even 5-6) of TM's players come from more conservative backgrounds and/or are pro regime. shojah's comments were pretty clear...no debate there. i also agree that these players had the opportunity to use their platform to make a powerful stand...and that sure, some of them selfishly chose their careers and comfort instead of committing career suicide / putting themselves at risk. It's funny that people portray sardar as a hero when he was omitted for his UAE photo...his comments in support of the people on social media were echoed by many other members of the team, who were allowed to play and who fans/pahlavists give no credit to.

I truly believe that the anti-TM inferno, which started during the mahsa protests, is largely a result of an organized information warfare campaign, propagated by foreign actors, opposition groups, and ESPECIALLY that foul shamless Saudi propaganda channel Iran International. They've been spewing so much baseless, absurd anti-TM talking points and propaganda that it's hard for anyone watching not to fall into it....just look at International/pahlavist twitter's ABSURD, bad faith lie that mohebbi's gun celebration was a threat against fans in the stadium(and the fact that many javgeer Iranians fell for it) as one small example of the coordinated, organized, bad faith campaign against this team...btw, if you bought this lie, you're naive and part of the problem (no offense)

It's the same old playbook they've always used against us: our emotions. They're using our grievances and sadness and hatred toward the regime - all of our emotions - to manipulate us into turning against one another and destroying one of our historic pillars of unity (team melli).

if you'd like, ignore all the noise and just focus on the outcomes:

1) team melli has effectively become an ENORMOUS divide between iranians, a divide that's fully on display at the world's biggest sporting event, covered by all major media etc.

2) iranians are literally physically attacking one another

3) the diaspora - instead of uniting and rallying against the regime, are as dysfunctional as ever, and TM has become the most recent (and a very powerful) cause of that division

I always asked myself how it was possible that iranians, in 1978, all collectively lost their minds and destroyed the beautiful iran that Mohammad Reza Pahlavi had built...but throughout this world cup, it became obvious to me as I saw the power of propaganda applied against an emotional people like us

[sycho67]

Do they have to directly mention their pro-IR sentiments? Their narative has consistently been pro-IR, to mention a few examples: Taremi is Press conference trying hard to normalize what happened 6 months ago in Iran by saying something to the lines of "these kinds of things are normal and happen in all other countries", Or Rezeaian telling the journalist "If there is any problem between us, this is our business. This is none of your business. So I just respect you, but this is something between us and we are going to solve it." So the question is what exactly getting solved and who is solving it? The IR? How? By executing more and more protestors? Players like Rezaeian if truly don't side with the IR, the best they can do is to shut his mouth, and refrain from making such pathetic statements.

You're simply trying to find any way you can to vilify the players. What Taremi and Rezaeian said were addressed to foreign journalists simply trying to get some political statements from athletes during a major sporting event, it is stupid on the part of the journalists to even ask these dumb questions. Journalists did the same with Russian hockey or tennis players during their press conferences by asking them about the war in Ukraine. Why don't they ever ask American players about the military actions of their amazing country ? Why ask Iranian athletes only to show their political stances ? It's bs

[sycho67]

^ by responding to everyone it clearly shows you are playing the devil's advocate. The majority in this thread think differently than you respect that and move on.

I'm responding to whoever addresses me directly, they looking to make a football discussion political, I am not.

[sycho67]

Said the guy with a pic of Mossadegh as his avatar...

What does my avatar have to do with anything that is discussed ? this avatar has been here for over 20 years, cope harder.