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Egypt’s goalkeeper, Mostafa Shobier, had rushed well off his goal line during the scramble.
That meant he was not one of the last two Egyptian players closest to the goal.
The offside line was therefore set by the second-last Egyptian player, not by the defender standing nearest the goal line.
Iran’s Shoja Khalilzadeh was just ahead of that second-last opponent when the shot that led to the rebound was taken. Because the ball merely rebounded (it wasn’t deliberately played by an Egyptian defender), the offside was not reset. VAR confirmed the offside by a very small margin.
anyway I am glad this madarjende did not score for Iran
^ please go watch the game again I just did. It was not offside eventhough I agrre about Shoja. But lets be fair
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The keeper was way outplaced in the box so the last line of defence was the defender and not the keeper anymore. So Shoja was way onside Screenshot_20260627_030336_Gallery.jpg
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I have been watching football for more than fifty years and I had never heard of such a rule that you need 2 players ahead for you to be considered onside.
Like I said in another thread, FIFA pulls these rules out of their rear end to make sure teams like Iran do not get far in the tournament.
Lets say the goal keeper comes to join the attack in a corner and one defender stays back close to the goal so if any player get the ball before the defender, it is on side as the defender is now the goal keeper now.
So if THE PLAYER AHEAD OF THE DEFENDER scores from far away and the defender cannot defend it it is a goal. Dont confuse yourselves by listening to FIFA.
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One more thing is that when any of the defending team passes or touches the ball to and before the striker, the offside rule is eliminated.
The pass to shoja came off the keeper not from our players. So 100% goal. We have seen so many goals that defenders pass to strikers by mistake and their goals are always allowed even in an offside position.
Their goal keeper touched the ball before Shoja and gave it to him, so it is a goal.
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Bro you've been running this forum for 22 years and you do not understand the offside rule. It's the 2nd player back which puts you offside. The goalkeeper is a player like anyone else.
A deflection does not mean anything, because you're offside when the ball is kicked - the deflection happens after that.
I'm sad as anyone that it wasn't a goal, but it's correctly offside.
However the problem is VAR. It's too precise, more precise than the players can be. The rule needs to be modified for VAR to based on the players torso only, to make staying onside less of a lottery based on a random foot.
^ lol bro ok. I know I' m right because of 30 years not 22. The goal keeper is now the defender and the defender is the keeper. so where was shoja? Between the goalie and last defender or farther out? If between them yes offside but if he was farther out, it means yiu should go do something else cause that was a goal. You cannot totally forget the last defender just because fifa says so. He is present next to the goal just like any keeper would be.
I dont know how long you watched football but it shows you have no idea so go watch it again.
So I repeat if a defender or keeper pass you the ball while there is a goalie (the last defender) next to the goal there is no offside. Deflection or pass are the same.
So let me explain easier to get it. The last defender becomes the goalie now so the keeper(now defender) passes the ball to our striker so the offside is elimiated and the goal stands. If there was nobody on the goal yes shoja was offside if you count out the last defender but you cant just eliminate players.
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The player you have circled is the last player back, not relevant for offside.
Egypt's No9 is the 2nd farthest player back, he is the offside line.
Your foot is considered for offside
Shoja's right foot is very marginally ahead of the Egyptian defenders left foot at the moment the ball is kicked
As Shoja is considered a player that impacted the play (which he obviously did, as he scored a goal), the offside when the ball is kicked is valid, despite the fact the ball went on to be deflected.
It's ridiculously marginal and a product of VAR, VAR has not made the game better here because the offside rule wasn't originally introduced in the game to do millimetre calls on things like this. The way offside is considered needs to be thought out again in games where there is VAR, because it leads to frankly stupid but "correct" decisions like this one.
Egypt’s goalkeeper, Mostafa Shobier, had rushed well off his goal line during the scramble.
That meant he was not one of the last two Egyptian players closest to the goal.
The offside line was therefore set by the second-last Egyptian player, not by the defender standing nearest the goal line.
Iran’s Shoja Khalilzadeh was just ahead of that second-last opponent when the shot that led to the rebound was taken. Because the ball merely rebounded (it wasn’t deliberately played by an Egyptian defender), the offside was not reset. VAR confirmed the offside by a very small margin.
anyway I am glad this madarjende did not score for Iran
The pass or deflection is a pass has nothing to do if it was deliberate or not. You forget that the keeper was the second defender now. How can you guys not see that the goalie was a defender and passed it to Shoja while there was another defender next to the goal?? if the keeper was farther away yes but he was closer to the goal and the pass did not come from our players. That makes it not offside because there was a player in the goal.
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مادر جنده هرزشی تو برو همونا کونت بذارن چرا اومدی اینجا؟ چون الان دارن ترتیب خواهرتو هم میدن. بچه کونی
I let you be here with all thise kose sher and now you call me names??I have the money and love football. In your life you have not spent this kind of money on anything so shove this jelousy and insert it inside your ass.
I love Iran more than you Arab lover. You are calling yourself Iranian after 40k of our people were massacred? I bought my 30 thousand dollars ticket when they had not killed so many Iranians madarjendeh, if you dont get it it is not my fault. I went there with my flag and voice ta koonet besoozeh in the special booth where you can never be so bacheh kooni get lost. I feel sorry for you that remember the amount so well because it definitely burned your ass.
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The player you have circled is the last player back, not relevant for offside.
Egypt's No9 is the 2nd farthest player back, he is the offside line.
Your foot is considered for offside
Shoja's right foot is very marginally ahead of the Egyptian defenders left foot at the moment the ball is kicked
As Shoja is considered a player that impacted the play (which he obviously did, as he scored a goal), the offside when the ball is kicked is valid, despite the fact the ball went on to be deflected.
It's ridiculously marginal and a product of VAR, VAR has not made the game better here because the offside rule wasn't originally introduced in the game to do millimetre calls on things like this. The way offside is considered needs to be thought out again in games where there is VAR, because it leads to frankly stupid but "correct" decisions like this one.
Please look at this image. how can this be offside?
when the ball deflected to shoja he was not offside and that is what matters. as if shoja was closer to the goal and in between the two it was offside. But VAR showed the other defender position(image two0. Of course if the last defender was not there it would be offside.
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