Karma is a Bitch. US and FIFA with their cheating got slapped in the face with this heavy defeat.
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US with unlimited resources, preparation and a whole nation as well as FIFA behind them got a heavy 4–1 defeat.
In contrast Iran team was heavily oppressed in this tournament yet they drew the same team. We had a goal called Offside by a tiny margin and we even had a chance to defeat Belgium when they went one man down.
I am not a fan of GN far from it in fact. But we have to admit we were great against Belgium and with better circumstances we could have won.
Hopefully soon when we are free from IR and IRGC I predict our football is going to be a force to be reckoned with.
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This wasn't the same Belgium team with a man down in their 2nd game of the tourney, and also group stage games and elimination games are not the same. Iran would not be able to replicate that result against them in an elimination game (aside from the fact that a tie is impossible in elimination games!). Switzerland would've defeated Iran with ease too. Their best chance for advancing to Rd. of 16 was finishing 2nd and playing Australia.Originally posted by Damavand View PostUS with unlimited resources, preparation and a whole nation as well as FIFA behind them got a heavy 4–1 defeat.
In contrast Iran team was heavily oppressed in this tournament yet they drew the same team. We had a goal called Offside by a tiny margin and we even had a chance to defeat Belgium when they went one man down.
I am not a fan of GN far from it in fact. But we have to admit we were great against Belgium and with better circumstances we could have won.
Hopefully soon when we are free from IR and IRGC I predict our football is going to be a force to be reckoned with.
I agree tho we had a chance to beat them in that game with a man down, but we cowered.
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Other FIFA controversies for the records:
FIFA (Fédération Internationale de Association Football) has faced numerous controversies across its history, spanning tournament-fixing, massive institutional corruption, and on-field disputes. The most significant controversies include:
2015 FIFA Corruption Scandal:
The U.S. Department of Justice unsealed a sweeping racketeering and bribery indictment. It resulted in the arrest of several top executives and the resignation of long-time President Sepp Blatter.
Qatar 2022 World Cup Bidding:
The selection of Qatar was heavily scrutinized over allegations of bribery to FIFA executive committee members. The tournament also sparked major controversies regarding human rights violations, migrant worker deaths, and last-minute crackdowns on anti-discrimination rainbow armbands.
Disgrace of Gijon (1982):
A group-stage match between West Germany and Austria where both teams intentionally stopped trying after a 1-0 German lead, ensuring both advanced and eliminated Algeria. This led to a rule change requiring final group matches to be played simultaneously.
Hand of God (1986):
Diego Maradona’s notorious quarterfinal goal against England, which he scored using his fist. The referee missed the handball, which allowed the goal to stand.
Luis Suarez Bites (2014):
Uruguayan striker Luis Suarez bit Italian defender Giorgio Chiellini during a group stage match. Suarez was banned from all football activities for four months.
Battle of Santiago (1962):
One of the most violent matches in World Cup history between Chile and Italy, featuring fighting, spitting, and police intervention to separate players.
On-Field Disasters:
Historical blown referee calls have defined tournaments, such as the 1966 "phantom goal" in the final, the 2002 South Korea vs. Italy refereeing scandals, and Thierry Henry's unpenalized handball in 2009 that qualified France over Ireland.__________________________________________________ ________________________________________
An Open Mind Will Set You Free
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First round matches are always like that. Im sure you remember Saudi beating Argentina and what happened later in the tournament. Belgium's engine is just starting up. It wasn't because Iran was good but that Belgium was not ready yet.Originally posted by Damavand View PostUS with unlimited resources, preparation and a whole nation as well as FIFA behind them got a heavy 4–1 defeat.
In contrast Iran team was heavily oppressed in this tournament yet they drew the same team. We had a goal called Offside by a tiny margin and we even had a chance to defeat Belgium when they went one man down.
I am not a fan of GN far from it in fact. But we have to admit we were great against Belgium and with better circumstances we could have won.
Hopefully soon when we are free from IR and IRGC I predict our football is going to be a force to be reckoned with.__________________________________________________ ________________________________________
An Open Mind Will Set You Free
__________________________________________________ ________________________________________
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If you noticed Belgium did not start Lukaku in this game while they did against us. The fact is Belgium was much fiery against us since they had not won their first game against Egypt.Originally posted by FeLFeL View Post
This wasn't the same Belgium team with a man down in their 2nd game of the tourney, and also group stage games and elimination games are not the same. Iran would not be able to replicate that result against them in an elimination game (aside from the fact that a tie is impossible in elimination games!). Switzerland would've defeated Iran with ease too. Their best chance for advancing to Rd. of 16 was finishing 2nd and playing Australia.
I agree tho we had a chance to beat them in that game with a man down, but we cowered.
If we had gone through as a third place team I fancied our chances against Switzerland. If Qatar can manage to draw them there was no reason for us not to win, especially since with every game we were getting better and better. If we had a normal government with a normal federation we could have gone far in this tournament.
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I fully agree there. We've always underachieved under this regime. Not only in Football.Originally posted by Damavand View Post
If you noticed Belgium did not start Lukaku in this game while they did against us. The fact is Belgium was much fiery against us since they had not won their first game against Egypt.
If we had gone through as a third place team I fancied our chances against Switzerland. If Qatar can manage to draw them there was no reason for us not to win against them, especially since with every game we were getting better and better. If we had a normal government with a normal federation we could have gone far in this tournament.
The Lukaku thing is cause the Belgian coach made adjustments as needed for each game. He also didn't start Doku and De Bruyne vs USA. I think he's a very a good coach, possibly coach of the tourney so far. He saved them from getting eliminated by Senegal. Doesn't hesitate to bench his stars, Portugal's coach Martinez should've been taking notes instead of playing Ronaldo 90 mins vs Spain in Rd. 16 at 41 years old!
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wrong again.Originally posted by FeLFeL View Post
This wasn't the same Belgium team with a man down in their 2nd game of the tourney, and also group stage games and elimination games are not the same. Iran would not be able to replicate that result against them in an elimination game (aside from the fact that a tie is impossible in elimination games!). Switzerland would've defeated Iran with ease too. Their best chance for advancing to Rd. of 16 was finishing 2nd and playing Australia.
I agree tho we had a chance to beat them in that game with a man down, but we cowered.
we were 0-0 up until the 75th minute playing 11 versus 11, and then the red card showed up. The US was down almost the entire game.
"group stage games and elimination games are not the same", yes, but in case you didn't notice, it applies to both teams .... right ? or is it just Belgium ....“It is easier to fool the people, than to convince them they have been fooled." - Mark Twain
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You think Amir Ghalenoie's team was at the same level of Belgium and would've magically started to play better as the tournament went on? We didn't lead once in any game, not even against NZ. Belgium thrashed NZ when it mattered the most for them to finish 1st in the group. Our whole game plan was defend, bekesh ziresh, wait for Taremi to draw a foul and hope for a hail mary on set pieces. Without Ramin's incredible performance (As a fullback!) scoring 2/3 goals and assisting the other, we would've probably walked away with 2 losses and a tie. Group stage and knockout stage success are totally different - just like WCQ and world cup group stage are totally different. There's levels to this - and for example the U.S. found out tonight vs Belgium. But we weren't even as good as the U.S. which advanced top of their group with 2 wins.Originally posted by OFFSIDE_1 View Post
wrong again.
we were 0-0 up until the 75th minute, and then the red card showed up. The US was down almost the entire game.
"group stage games and elimination games are not the same", yes, but in case you didn't notice, it applies to both teams .... right ? or is it just Belgium ....
We weren't better than them 4 years ago either when we lost 1-0 when it mattered the most and that was with a younger team and better manager back in 2022, let alone this sorry excuse of a manager with his IRGC vetted roster.
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From the US coach. Clearly the corrupt decision to remove the suspension on Balogun created a negative environment. He does not want to admit it, but he 100% had a hand in this and pushed for the removal of the suspension and now he's crying because it backfired.
Pochettino:
"I am so frustrated and so disappointed with the people who are supposed to understand this situation," said Pochettino, accusing critics of "mixing" politics with FIFA's decision.
"I think it didn't affect our performance... it's not an excuse, and we cannot put excuses, it wasn't our day.
"But in a personal way... (what) is the point? To insult or to receive a lot of bad message or threats, if my position is 'I am the head coach, it's a rule... that the player can be available'?"
"My position was to train the team, and if you have available Balogun, because the disciplinary (committee) of FIFA allowed to for you to have the player, it's not a problem," said Pochettino.
"In a personal way I feel so disappointed with too many people."
“It is easier to fool the people, than to convince them they have been fooled." - Mark Twain
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Against Belgium we played defensive, even when they had 10 men we did not attack we just kinda just wasted time …. We did get a respectable result of 0-0.
but if we had played offensive against them we would have probably lost 3-0 or 4-0 .
but the truth is you just can’t play offensive against a team like that when you have sucky players to being with
the USA has better players than us and a whole everything better in all terms coach facilities friendly games Everything…. But even them they did not have a good game plan and besides
Belgium has neutralized the 2 big X factors for the USA sergino Dest and antonee Robinson,,, who basically are the catalyst of alot of the USA tactical offensive moves from their own end….
this is were it hurt cause now pulsic and Malik Tillman needed to really step up big time to make this game for the USA …
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without Ramin ? I don't understand your logic. So you are saying without Ramin we would have lost 2 games ? Yeah, most teams would lose their games without their star playersOriginally posted by FeLFeL View Post
You think Amir Ghalenoie's team was at the same level of Belgium and would've magically started to play better as the tournament went on? We didn't lead once in any game, not even against NZ. Belgium thrashed NZ when it mattered the most for them to finish 1st in the group. Our whole game plan was defend, bekesh ziresh, wait for Taremi to draw a foul and hope for a hail mary on set pieces. Without Ramin's incredible performance scoring 2/3 goals and assisting the other, we would've probably walked away with 2 losses and a tie. Group stage and knockout stage success are totally different - just like WCQ and world cup group stage are totally different. There's levels to this - and for example the U.S. found out tonight vs Belgium. But we weren't even as good as the U.S. which advanced top of their group with 2 wins.
We weren't better than them 4 years ago either when we lost 1-0 when it mattered the most and that was with a younger team and far better coach back in 2022, let alone this sorry excuse of a coach with his IRGC vetted roster.

. Where would the US team be without Folarin Balogun 3 goals ? Where would France be without Mbappee. Or Norway without Erling Haaland ?
you can point to many hypotheticals ...... but at the end of the day, we were 0-0 up against Belgium until the 75th minute. The US team was down from almost the 5th minute. Facts point to Iran performing better against Belgium versus the US on their homefield against the same team.
Nobody is comparing the Iran team to the US. The US team is stronger, however, this stupid decision by whoever was behind it, caused such a huge distraction, that the team walked onto the field knowing that they are cheating. It was a shortsighted move
“It is easier to fool the people, than to convince them they have been fooled." - Mark Twain
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