[Poll] Lose against UAE and avoid Japan or beat UAE and face Japan before the final?

[Roozbeh-G2006]

Its not even about the moral obligation to win (although that itself is a fine argument).

The path as 1st place team is still better for us...

If we finish second we need to play an amped up Iraqi side with huge fan support in QF and then aussie/saudi in semi. No guarantee we get thru iraq or aussie/saudi.

If we finish first we play Syria and then the winner of a likely highly draining japan/korea match. Win that and we play uzbek/qatar. Much easier prospect than saudi/australia.

Not to mention the shit mood around the camp if we fail to beat uae.

not sure about the shit mood in the camp but the
likely highly draining Japan/Korea bit is a good argument

[inarsenewetrust]

Its not even about the moral obligation to win (although that itself is a fine argument).

The path as 1st place team is still better for us...

If we finish second we need to play an amped up Iraqi side with huge fan support in QF and then aussie/saudi in semi. No guarantee we get thru iraq or aussie/saudi.

If we finish first we play Syria and then the winner of a likely highly draining japan/korea match. Win that and we play uzbek/qatar. Much easier prospect than saudi/australia.

Not to mention the shit mood around the camp if we fail to beat uae.

[Ostad_Goosfand]

Makes zero sense to lose to UAE.

1. playing Japan not guaranteed. They would have to beat Korea/Jordan first
2. Iraq looks good. Lots of Swedish and danish born players. Not same team as old with anjad attwan, safaa Hadi, resan, tariq as key players
3. Japan doesn’t even look that good. What diff does it make playing strong team in QF than SF. On this side of bracket we would play crappy Qatar or Uzbek in SF

with healthy team and Ghoddos, ezat, taremi/azmoun we can beat anyone

[oracle]

Tm has 11% chance win cup
exactly the 11% here voted to finish second.

[Damavand]

similar thing happened in the 1974 WC, where the eventual WC champions West Germany lost 1-0 to a crappy East germany in the group phase, allowing them to avoid Holland, Brazil and Argentina, and instead got Sweden, Yugoslavia and Poland.

Not saying we should lose, but there are teams that have done it. Ofcourse in the case of Iran, the question is could the team put it all back together after such a loss .....

It happened again 4 years later in WC78 where eventual finalist Holland lost its last game in the group stage to Scotland to avoid being placed with host Argentina and Brazil in the next round.

[mahestan]

This tm is perfect to beat arab teams..these group
of players dominated the Arab teams ,SKOCIC THOUGHT THEM HOW TO BEAT ARAB TEAMS.
Play around with them until 50 ,60 minutes then use your physical advantage ability and attack.
these group of players against arab teams have high confidence AND EVERY SINGLE OF ARAB TEAMS ARE SCARED SH. LESS OF TM.

Yea like the time we demolished Iraq in AC2015…

Stop with the lose to UAE rhetoric.

[Roozbeh-G2006]

Next match day could change everything as the other teams
may also be playing to avoid certain scenarios

[Roozbeh-G2006]

we are way over thinking this supposed should we lose or win the uae match dilemma as if its only up to us ..!

it's actually a simple decision the game result if by enlarge is meaningless ... so use the game mostly as a experimental friendly and as a tune-up to likely far more stern challenges lying ahead in round 16 and hopefully beyond...!
use the game to polish up the games of your rusty usual starters... like Sardar, possibly even Mehdi/Saeed/Hsafi/Shoja in limited minute capacity.. otherwise testing out your backup GKs, wingers, WB and CBs, CMs and most importantly fully resting marquee important players that we have very low depth in quality replacements like Saman, Kananni , even ARJ, Ramin/sadegh..!
perhaps experimenting with Asadi in CM role or yanking back cheshmi to CB role ? maybe see how Moghanlou fair as a RW/Lw attacker partnering Sardar as target CF.. or in more of 10 role..?

imo, Final Result shouldnt matter at all in this game @ ALL...... simple as that.. ..!

hear! hear!

[BacheLot]

we are way over thinking this supposed should we lose or win the uae match dilemma as if its only up to us ..!

it's actually a simple decision the game result if by enlarge is meaningless ... so use the game mostly as a experimental friendly and as a tune-up to likely far more stern challenges lying ahead in round 16 and hopefully beyond...!
use the game to polish up the games of your rusty usual starters... like Sardar, possibly even Mehdi/Saeed/Hsafi/Shoja in limited minute capacity.. otherwise testing out your backup GKs, wingers, WB and CBs, CMs and most importantly fully resting marquee important players that we have very low depth in quality replacements like Saman, Kananni , even ARJ, Ramin/sadegh..!
perhaps experimenting with Asadi in CM role or yanking back cheshmi to CB role ? maybe see how Moghanlou fair as a RW/Lw attacker partnering Sardar as target CF.. or in more of 10 role..?

imo, Final Result shouldnt matter at all in this game @ ALL...... simple as that.. ..!

[diz]

Last 4 matches
3 w 1 L
like our chances.

im looking further back. And this Iraq team is doing very well. Last 5 matches they only lost once to SK 0-1

[taremiscores]

Do the "job" Team Melli! (to use a pro wrestling term)

When a wrestler is booked to lose a match, it is described as "a job". The act itself is described with the verb jobbing, while the act of booking (rather than being booked) to job is called jobbing out. To lose a match fairly (meaning without any kayfabe rules being broken) is to job cleanly.

Play Hossein Kaanani as a striker!

[oracle]

im saying we will be emotionally charged against Iraq and make more mental mistakes.

the concept of stats and “easier on paper” go away when we play them. Just look at our past meetings with Iraq.

Last 4 matches
3 w 1 L
like our chances.

[diz]

U are saying
tm has better chance against japan than iraq?

im saying we will be emotionally charged against Iraq and make more mental mistakes.

the concept of stats and “easier on paper” go away when we play them. Just look at our past meetings with Iraq.

[OFFSIDE_1]

similar thing happened in the 1974 WC, where the eventual WC champions West Germany lost 1-0 to a crappy East germany in the group phase, allowing them to avoid Holland, Brazil and Argentina, and instead got Sweden, Yugoslavia and Poland.

Not saying we should lose, but there are teams that have done it. Ofcourse in the case of Iran, the question is could the team put it all back together after such a loss .....

[oracle]

unfortunately, our TM players don’t have the psychological training and expertise to not “mix personal and business together”. They will be emotional bulls in a china shop against Iraq. I can see many yellows and even a red against TM.

U are saying
tm has better chance against japan than iraq?