TM NEWS - VOL 8

[Afat11]

Sorry buddy your logic is flawed. Then tell me if none of these protests, movements matter, then why does IRI spend millions and millions of dollars in propaganda by busing in and flying in their supporters to the games in Qatar? Putting restrictions on fans, preventing reporters from gaining access to the stadium etc. So you can't say it does not matter. It does matter.

North Korea, Russia, China, etc. all do the same. Every autocrat regime does these things to control their own narrative. How many are on the verge of revolution? Your logic is the one actually flawed. Propaganda is something every country does, thinking because IR does everything in their power to seek control actually proves my point. They are still capable of controlling these things that happen outside of Iran to the point that the Masih Alinejads of the world are essentially powerless. I’d love for you to be right, but you’re not, IR is fully entrenched and barring Masih suiting up in armor and going back to fight, these guys have a death grip on the country. People who say “it’s uneasy, they’re gonna fall any day”! USA bombed, they’re gonna fall any day!” I’ve been hearing this since 30 years ago.

It’s like thoughts and prayers, all the hopes and prayers and curses at our players that you all do are powerless and I’m so sorry. I wish they mattered, but our leaders I’m sure have been cursed billions of times over from afar and they will outlive me who is half their age. You can keep protesting TM, but again, it accomplishes nothing and if you think IR wants people fervently supporting TM, they would do more to create a strong TM instead of shipping in actors like you’re saying. It’s all about control, and they control every detail of our hamvatan’s life. They’ve purposely killed the love for TM and created the team mollah stuff to kill the intense love for the team. I’m convinced of that. They’re in control of everything and do so much propaganda, why are they not then doing what they can to make Iranians actually support TM instead of where the support is now if that’s the case? I just don’t think there’s any logic that IR wants people to love TM. If your logic is that they want people to support TM as propaganda, can you answer me why they need to ship in phony fans knowing it pisses off and alienates so much of the population. These things just don’t add up. It’s all about control.

[Nokhodi]

It is supposed to be Team "Melli" and not Team "Government".
IMHO, Team "Melli" players have a moral obligation, at the very least, to represent their own people in the face of injustice.

I know it is a lot to ask, not easy to do, and there will be consequences if they do. That is why the likes of Nasser Hejazi are heroes, and some in the past or present are not.

The truth is, IFF is not an autonomous sport federation, and it is corrupt, as it is directly run by the government.

I’ve never believed they have any obligation except to play well.
Still they do good things for people all the time.
TM as a collective has too many components for them to do everything we want.
let them be is what I say.

[blue blood]

It is supposed to be Team "Melli" and not Team "Government".
IMHO, Team "Melli" players have a moral obligation, at the very least, to represent their own people in the face of injustice.

I know it is a lot to ask, not easy to do, and there will be consequences if they do. That is why the likes of Nasser Hejazi are heroes, and some in the past or present are not.

The truth is, IFF is not an autonomous sport federation, and it is corrupt, as it is directly run by the government.

[persian-eagle-13]

I posted something similar in the Taremi thread, but it needs to be said that planning a revolution in the football forum just shows how desperate we are as a people. Thinking that if Iran comes and loses every game, wins every game, players protest, players set themselves on fire during the game in protest, anything, that it will change the situation in Iran. Those of us on this forum live almost exclusively abroad, we have no control, and we think anything we do has any bearing or helps the situation in Iran. It doesn't, and that powerless feeling makes us angry. We feel like if we find targets that we think are "helping" IR in any way and discredit them, we have achieved a moral victory and hare helping create some kind of change. Realistically, it's just desperation and anger at ourselves for being powerless.

I've seen many in the west sadly say "well cut off the water, let the people in Iran die of thirst, or starve the people there, at least things will change!" I know too many people who have gone this far in their rationale, and it's honestly sick. Most Iranians who are able to leave and start anew have like us, many are stuck there and have to live by the rules or face horrific punishment. If you are unwilling to go back and starve with them, none of us should volunteer others to suffer for our own political ambitions. These are human beings, and some resort to offering others up for punishment, death, etc. and are unwilling to step foot in Iran out of fear. It's sad and I hope many will learn that letting many die so you can visit your Ameh in Tehran isn't helping Iran. It's a horrible situation we're all stuck in, but we should wish for small good things to happen for our people to give them life, maybe they'll be invigorated with some hope to push for a better future. Making a country hopeless and making them feel everything sucks, even down to their football team makes people curl in the fetal position and cry and waste their lives. Hope is a better motivator than punishment and I believe people in Iran were more hopeful when they saw their compatriots achieving. They spilled to the street when TM had big wins the in the past, it scared the government. That isn't going to happen in the future. One because we suck now talent-wise, but two, some people wisely killed Iranian's love for TM and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was IR propaganda to make TM into IR's team so people would stop caring. It would be ironic if all the people hating on TM now from abroad are actually playing into exactly what IR wants. They won't get any big celebrations in the streets potential risk to stability anymore now that everyone hates TM, so who is the big winner here with these shifted attitudes in the past couple of years?

Sorry buddy your logic is flawed. Then tell me if none of these protests, movements matter, then why does IRI spend millions and millions of dollars in propaganda by busing in and flying in their supporters to the games in Qatar? Putting restrictions on fans, preventing reporters from gaining access to the stadium etc. So you can't say it does not matter. It does matter.

[Afat11]

I posted something similar in the Taremi thread, but it needs to be said that planning a revolution in the football forum just shows how desperate we are as a people. Thinking that if Iran comes and loses every game, wins every game, players protest, players set themselves on fire during the game in protest, anything, that it will change the situation in Iran. Those of us on this forum live almost exclusively abroad, we have no control, and we think anything we do has any bearing or helps the situation in Iran. It doesn't, and that powerless feeling makes us angry. We feel like if we find targets that we think are "helping" IR in any way and discredit them, we have achieved a moral victory and hare helping create some kind of change. Realistically, it's just desperation and anger at ourselves for being powerless.

I've seen many in the west sadly say "well cut off the water, let the people in Iran die of thirst, or starve the people there, at least things will change!" I know too many people who have gone this far in their rationale, and it's honestly sick. Most Iranians who are able to leave and start anew have like us, many are stuck there and have to live by the rules or face horrific punishment. If you are unwilling to go back and starve with them, none of us should volunteer others to suffer for our own political ambitions. These are human beings, and some resort to offering others up for punishment, death, etc. and are unwilling to step foot in Iran out of fear. It's sad and I hope many will learn that letting many die so you can visit your Ameh in Tehran isn't helping Iran. It's a horrible situation we're all stuck in, but we should wish for small good things to happen for our people to give them life, maybe they'll be invigorated with some hope to push for a better future. Making a country hopeless and making them feel everything sucks, even down to their football team makes people curl in the fetal position and cry and waste their lives. Hope is a better motivator than punishment and I believe people in Iran were more hopeful when they saw their compatriots achieving. They spilled to the street when TM had big wins the in the past, it scared the government. That isn't going to happen in the future. One because we suck now talent-wise, but two, some people wisely killed Iranian's love for TM and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was IR propaganda to make TM into IR's team so people would stop caring. It would be ironic if all the people hating on TM now from abroad are actually playing into exactly what IR wants. They won't get any big celebrations in the streets potential risk to stability anymore now that everyone hates TM, so who is the big winner here with these shifted attitudes in the past couple of years?

[Nokhodi]

I beg to differ; this only exposes IRI more. The more restrictions on US puts on TM and their staff it will only stop the propaganda machine that IRI calls TM.

The best-case scenario is for all team Melli Sepahai players to be banned, TM comes to the US with a young team without the dalals that are behind the current team, loses all 3 games, and leave. Also for FIFA to force Iran to play the game in Seattle. Just to add more insult to the arzeshi group in iran.

Plain and simple, the faction that cares in Iran doesn't care at all if that happens to TM. They will take it as a moral victory. That's what they do. Same idiots who banned all football players over age 27 from TM. Same fools who got us banned from 1980 and 1984 Olympics and 82 and 86 WC qualifiers. They don't pay the price, the athletes do. Same way that they ban athletes from facing Israeli athletes. Nothing happens to a**holes who make the decision and the promising athlete is banned for life.

You assume they think like you and I, they don't! They don't care if Iran is embarrassed at a public level. You think they cared Iran lost 6-2 to England? They were happy about it. More reason for people to hate TM.


Once regular people hate TM, IR will have successfully extinguished another venue for mass mobilization and popular response. IR will have played everyone hook, line, and sinker.

[persian-eagle-13]

All this turning football into a political ideological battleground stuff is music to IR's ears because it is one of the easiest distractions for them to manage.

I beg to differ; this only exposes IRI more. The more restrictions on US puts on TM and their staff it will only stop the propaganda machine that IRI calls TM.

The best-case scenario is for all team Melli Sepahai players to be banned, TM comes to the US with a young team without the dalals that are behind the current team, loses all 3 games, and leave. Also for FIFA to force Iran to play the game in Seattle. Just to add more insult to the arzeshi group in iran.

[Nokhodi]

the thing is, the other side which contains guys like you;
Israel wants to destroy IR: “we support Iran, fuck off Israel
you guys side with IR’s pro Palestina.
Team melli is run by IR and khayemals, you guys say its about our football.

don’t you understand that if you always side by Iran you automatically side by IR?
A revolution is IMPOSSIBLE when many keep promoting Iran and how “free” the girls are nowadays.

IR will keep reigning if everything goes their way. Many just dont care.

I'm not getting into the Israel Palestine stuff, but in general statements like "if you always side by Iran you automatically side by IR?" is the kind of stuff chappis said in the 70s and it was a failed ideology then, and it's a failed ideology now.

All this turning football into a political ideological battleground stuff is music to IR's ears because it is one of the easiest distractions for them to manage.

[Shahin K]

How come there is no news on this site about harassment of iranian world cupfans and rejection of visas? About threats of arresting these fans by your love Pahlavi-Trump axis? How far are you willing to go against your own people PFDC-Pahlavi? You think people are blind? First it was your pro-genocidal stance of palestinians, then it was the thousands of innocent people in Iran you supported Israel to kill, now its Iranian soccer team and its fans? Just how far blood are you willing to shed to support your Greater Israel-Biden-Trump bosses, and his puppet Pahlavi?

Taremi being threatened: https://iranwire.com/en/sports/14687...e-in-the-irgc/

https://www.newsweek.com/sports/ice-could-target-world-cup-fans-11153280

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/controversy-world-cup-united-states-184400294.html

the thing is, the other side which contains guys like you;
Israel wants to destroy IR: “we support Iran, fuck off Israel
you guys side with IR’s pro Palestina.
Team melli is run by IR and khayemals, you guys say its about our football.

don’t you understand that if you always side by Iran you automatically side by IR?
A revolution is IMPOSSIBLE when many keep promoting Iran and how “free” the girls are nowadays.

IR will keep reigning if everything goes their way. Many just dont care.

[Artaxerxes]

How come there is no news on this site about harassment of iranian world cupfans and rejection of visas? About threats of arresting these fans by your love Pahlavi-Trump axis? How far are you willing to go against your own people PFDC-Pahlavi? You think people are blind? First it was your pro-genocidal stance of palestinians, then it was the thousands of innocent people in Iran you supported Israel to kill, now its Iranian soccer team and its fans? Just how far blood are you willing to shed to support your Greater Israel-Biden-Trump bosses, and his puppet Pahlavi?

Taremi being threatened: https://iranwire.com/en/sports/14687...e-in-the-irgc/

https://www.newsweek.com/sports/ice-could-target-world-cup-fans-11153280

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/controversy-world-cup-united-states-184400294.html

😅😅😅, boro bebinam toam, go and post this on arzeshi.vatanforoush.i.r/hamasgoat instead of here.

[Ghaasem]

How come there is no news on this site about harassment of iranian world cupfans and rejection of visas? About threats of arresting these fans by your love Pahlavi-Trump axis? How far are you willing to go against your own people PFDC-Pahlavi? You think people are blind? First it was your pro-genocidal stance of palestinians, then it was the thousands of innocent people in Iran you supported Israel to kill, now its Iranian soccer team and its fans? Just how far blood are you willing to shed to support your Greater Israel-Biden-Trump bosses, and his puppet Pahlavi?

Taremi being threatened: https://iranwire.com/en/sports/14687...e-in-the-irgc/

https://www.newsweek.com/sports/ice-could-target-world-cup-fans-11153280

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/controversy-world-cup-united-states-184400294.html

[Nokhodi]

great choice. None of these teams play anything like Egypt or NZ

Portugal is prep for Belgium.

Scotland and Iceland play a physical football that is as close as anyone gets in the world to New Zealand football.
Any game against such opponents will be useful for TM.

[aariaa]

Iran Confirmed friendly game against Portugal and exist big possibility to play against Spain, Scotland and Iceland.

great choice. None of these teams play anything like Egypt or NZ

[persian-eagle-13]

Watch, we will end up playing some random team from Africa and Asia. We do not have money to balance our budge in iran and they have $1 mil to spend on a friendly game. Give me a break.

[Tarsal Claw]

Who are we kidding. None of these are gonna happen. Ok, maybe Algeria...