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THIS POST IS ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON...!!Originally posted by a_m View Post
Not doubting CQ influence as a revolutionary visionary who changed the game and brought a whole new generation of talent into Team Melli , he was the best coach we ever had in terms of creating a strong viable competitive team who could play against anyone in the world,,,,,
but to be fair the game against Algeria , CQ gang of former players ( Taremi , JK, ansarfarid, Chesmi, Ramin) ,they threw that game , so skocic would look bad … so Taj would sack him …
you talk about the Uruguay game, look at the line up CQ used in that game ,, and compare it to the lineup he used against the USA.. vs1Alireza Beiranvand 4Shoja Khalilzadeh 13Hossein Kanani 6Saeid Ezatolahi 23Abolfazl Jalali 2Sadegh Moharrami 3Ehsan Hajsafi 14Saman Ghoddos 16Mehdi Torab 9Mehdi Taremi 20Sardar Azmoun
USA line up1Alireza Beiranvand 8Morteza Pouraliganji 19Majid Hosseini 5Milad Mohammadi 23Ramin Rezaeian 21Ahmad Noorollahi 6Saeid Ezatolahi 3Ehsan Hajsafi 17Ali Gholizadeh 20Sardar Azmoun 9Mehdi Taremi
you can see clearly CQ was biased , I have to give credit where credit is due but khalizadeh ,kanani , mohrami and Jalili deserved to play against the USA they where much better defensive line up than milad, pouraligani, hosseni and ramin ,,,
and you see clearly against Uruguay we had a significant different line up we played 4-1-4-1, Ghoddos and torabi played most of the game in the mid field, they were able to hold on to the ball well , we controlled the midfield for some parts of the game and the defensive players won alot of individual battles for us..
vs the USA we played 4-4-1-1 and only Sardar, Taremi and gholizadeh were offensive player everyone else was a defensive player ……we had zero control of the midfield, the UsA control the midfield field , the defense was ok , other than the mistakes, but offensive players were non-existent and we lacked creativity,
CQ was the best we ever had , but he was also very shrewd in his tactics and loyalties , if he despised you as a player he didn’t care how good you where he wouldn’t play you , he was like the god father ,,,, which I mean it was his way or the highway I guess
Skocic was more a realist, he was willing to work and make it happen,
Mohebi and ghayedi were 2 players CQ dropped before the World Cup , I mean maybe they could have helped us against the USA , but to be fair World Cup 2022 was supposed to be skocic to coach win or lose and plus it could have been a swan song for alot to these players that now we having a hard time to get ride of now … cause of past grudges…
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I just came across this song, gave me goosebumbs and some tears, imagine if our Team melli was as good as this song.
Be in adam mige yek ahang baraye IRAN , na soorode eshali we have to see and listen to every damn WC/AC
I hope you enjoy it as much as i did.
Hosele dari every god damn post has to be a salty pass to somthing political and anti national anthem anti this with Iran and so on. ? not a big thing if its here and there but 1987 posts = 100% salty propaganda-baba show some respect to the football forum and post your politic in the other forum,
Y A N I - G E N E R A L F O R U M 1 week ban, next time you will get a very long one over world cup. getting tired of banning you a week here and there this is the final warning., God Bless and Jamesh Kon/Keshw
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If Antar-gohe has any balls he should play this line up next friend games:
———Ahllayar.————- Hosseinzadeh
———— Hosseienajad—MohammaSadeghi
————-Koshki.——— Ahmadi——
—-fallah ———-Zare——-Yaghoub Barage
————-Mohammad Khalife————-
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Not doubting CQ influence as a revolutionary visionary who changed the game and brought a whole new generation of talent into Team Melli , he was the best coach we ever had in terms of creating a strong viable competitive team who could play against anyone in the world,,,,,Originally posted by Prowess View Post
The problem with Skocic was the team lacked defensive structure. It was apparent when we played Algeria in a friendly. Our defensive shape was awful.
Our friendly against Uruguay under CQ was one of the best performances against a superior team.
CQ had his flaws, for example, not stacking the midfield and not starting Ghoddos vs USA.
But to me, CQ was our best coach from at least the last 20 years, and it’s not even close.
but to be fair the game against Algeria , CQ gang of former players ( Taremi , JK, ansarfarid, Chesmi, Ramin) ,they threw that game , so skocic would look bad … so Taj would sack him …
you talk about the Uruguay game, look at the line up CQ used in that game ,, and compare it to the lineup he used against the USA.. vs1Alireza Beiranvand 4Shoja Khalilzadeh 13Hossein Kanani 6Saeid Ezatolahi 23Abolfazl Jalali 2Sadegh Moharrami 3Ehsan Hajsafi 14Saman Ghoddos 16Mehdi Torab 9Mehdi Taremi 20Sardar Azmoun
USA line up1Alireza Beiranvand 8Morteza Pouraliganji 19Majid Hosseini 5Milad Mohammadi 23Ramin Rezaeian 21Ahmad Noorollahi 6Saeid Ezatolahi 3Ehsan Hajsafi 17Ali Gholizadeh 20Sardar Azmoun 9Mehdi Taremi
you can see clearly CQ was biased , I have to give credit where credit is due but khalizadeh ,kanani , mohrami and Jalili deserved to play against the USA they where much better defensive line up than milad, pouraligani, hosseni and ramin ,,,
and you see clearly against Uruguay we had a significant different line up we played 4-1-4-1, Ghoddos and torabi played most of the game in the mid field, they were able to hold on to the ball well , we controlled the midfield for some parts of the game and the defensive players won alot of individual battles for us..
vs the USA we played 4-4-1-1 and only Sardar, Taremi and gholizadeh were offensive player everyone else was a defensive player ……we had zero control of the midfield, the UsA control the midfield field , the defense was ok , other than the mistakes, but offensive players were non-existent and we lacked creativity,
CQ was the best we ever had , but he was also very shrewd in his tactics and loyalties , if he despised you as a player he didn’t care how good you where he wouldn’t play you , he was like the god father ,,,, which I mean it was his way or the highway I guess
Skocic was more a realist, he was willing to work and make it happen,
Mohebi and ghayedi were 2 players CQ dropped before the World Cup , I mean maybe they could have helped us against the USA , but to be fair World Cup 2022 was supposed to be skocic to coach win or lose and plus it could have been a swan song for alot to these players that now we having a hard time to get ride of now … cause of past grudges…
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We're all worried my friend! very worried! - our team doesn't even have the basics right: optimal fitness required just to keep up for 90 minutes, some speed, and a defensive minded structure since we obviously won't dictate the game against most opponents besides maybe New Zealand and a couple more minnows. - who knows what even would happen VS New Zealand after seeing our $hit performances Vs the likes of Kyrgz / Uzbekistan, etc.Originally posted by aariaa View PostAm I the only one worried about how embarrassing this World Cup will be for us?
our squads professionalism and desire to improve by playing in Europe has completely gone down the drain - back to the pre CQ era here we go
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Originally posted by a_m View PostI make this argument easy
CQ ;
was a Defensive minded coach , who wanted his players to be disciplined, physical fit , and have team mentality, he was a defense 1st type of coach, he preferred athletic players , who had good endurance and but didn’t care about speed to much cause we be sitting back for most of the game , also psychical capable defenders can handle strong attacking players, he skills was all in the formations and system …
To neutralize the offensive players by using a zone and holding the midfield players forcing them to use the flanks and crosses
Skocic ;
he was more of an offensive minded coach who wanted to win games and was less concerned how we won them , be was more fluid tactical, that means if we had to play defensive we could and then play offensive when we should , he wasn’t so stuck on one system , he preferred faster players over endurance, I think .
GN;
he has no tactics or philosophy, he doesn’t really introduce any new players
we need a coach who is a mix of CQ and Skocic , Skocic was more of a modern coach , CQ was more of the old school coaches,
I know everyone thinks about it , but I think Skocic would have taken more chances and we could have probably beaten USa at the World Cup with him cause that USA team was very young and inexperienced, if you scored 1 goal on them they would have collapsed , I know Skocic would have taken ghadie and Mohebi for sure …
The problem with Skocic was the team lacked defensive structure. It was apparent when we played Algeria in a friendly. Our defensive shape was awful.
Our friendly against Uruguay under CQ was one of the best performances against a superior team.
CQ had his flaws, for example, not stacking the midfield and not starting Ghoddos vs USA.
But to me, CQ was our best coach from at least the last 20 years, and it’s not even close.
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I make this argument easy
CQ ;
was a Defensive minded coach , who wanted his players to be disciplined, physical fit , and have team mentality, he was a defense 1st type of coach, he preferred athletic players , who had good endurance and but didn’t care about speed to much cause we be sitting back for most of the game , also psychical capable defenders can handle strong attacking players, he skills was all in the formations and system …
To neutralize the offensive players by using a zone and holding the midfield players forcing them to use the flanks and crosses
Skocic ;
he was more of an offensive minded coach who wanted to win games and was less concerned how we won them , be was more fluid tactical, that means if we had to play defensive we could and then play offensive when we should , he wasn’t so stuck on one system , he preferred faster players over endurance, I think .
GN;
he has no tactics or philosophy, he doesn’t really introduce any new players
we need a coach who is a mix of CQ and Skocic , Skocic was more of a modern coach , CQ was more of the old school coaches,
I know everyone thinks about it , but I think Skocic would have taken more chances and we could have probably beaten USa at the World Cup with him cause that USA team was very young and inexperienced, if you scored 1 goal on them they would have collapsed , I know Skocic would have taken ghadie and Mohebi for sure …
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100% - How could we have expected CQ to undue what Skocic had done for 3 years, within 1.5 months of the world cup starting after he was hired?Originally posted by Prowess View PostEven though I was gutted after the USA result in ‘22, if CQ wasn’t let go after AC’19, we would’ve beaten the USA. He’d have plenty of time to
revamp his squad.
I also believe if he had stayed, we would have put up a respectable performance VS England and defeated USA to advance to Round of 16.
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My biggest concern going into next year’s World Cup is Azmoun’s and Taremi’s fitness. They are our best players. Azmoun is already injured, and Taremi’s status will be chronically shaky.
GN has no clue how to build depth in a roster. CQ, hate him, or love him, was a master of this. This is why Majid Hosseini shined in 2018, and even in 2022, Jalali played admirably in his cameo.
GN has wasted so much time forcing a peg in a round hole with players like Moghanlou and Shoja.
Even though I was gutted after the USA result in ‘22, if CQ wasn’t let go after AC’19, we would’ve beaten the USA. He’d have plenty of time to
revamp his squad.
GN heavily relies on our star players to bail us out.
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yep so do i..! :/Originally posted by aariaa View PostAm I the only one worried about how embarrassing this World Cup will be for us?
I fear this idiot is gonna try his hoojoomi, high press bullshit tactics @ WC with a slow ass, half injured/played out squad & we gonna ship out a ton of goals ..! His only saving gace would be Getting Real lucky @ the wc draw..!
I skipped buying tickets for time being I got a lot of shit going on next summer including a wedding trip to Mexico, which may be right around the game times and I’m almost certain we’re gonna end up in Mexico‘s group and play all our games Away from US.!
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I think that is basically everyone in the TM community besides a low minority who are coping hard. Just think of it as an end of a generation similar to the period from 2010-2014Originally posted by aariaa View PostAm I the only one worried about how embarrassing this World Cup will be for us?
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Am I the only one worried about how embarrassing this World Cup will be for us?
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Iran is 21st in the New Fifa World Cup October rankings.
US/Mexico ahead of us.
Canada is behind us but due to their host status will be in Pot 1 anyway.
This makes Iran in Pot 2 with South Korea and Ecuador rounding it out with Austria just falling into Pot 3.
There will be one more set of rankings after the November qualifiers which will be the official ones for the draw.
It probably wont matter when it comes to how poor our team has been but if we want to play two games against big teams would be better to fall into Pot 3.
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The only experiment this asshole did was to eat one goje instead of two whit his cholo kabab before the games.
Damn i hate this man, uses Team melli for his own greed and agenda.
We will be the laughing object this WC and embaress Iran more than she already is.
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