Sepahan/Zobahan Fan Thread

[babak_iran]

we definitely need to keep krancjar for now! but id jus love to see ebrahimzadeh coaching sepahan for the future.

[SeZaAhan]

Kranchar has a great record when it comes to domestic football. When it comes to ACL he ain't that great. If he were Iranian alot of people would be on his a$$ saying he is not good for Int'l football. Just saying.

Trust me sepahan will do great with Krancjar this year ! From my past experience every time sepahan starts something really great they suddenly fvck up in the end! So since sepahan has started badly this year they will do good in next stage,! Sepahan needs a win/draw in Saudi Arabia, a win/draw against algharafa in home , and weak al nasr! (so about 7 more points) ~ al ahli will be missing the twat OLIVEIRA who scored two goals! for next match against sepahan

[sorkh]

Sepahan has got problems in three positions; left back, right back, and defensive midfielder. AbulHasan Jafari was sidelined because of his terrible mistakes in Al Gharrafas game. Ervin Bulko is playing in his position even though he is a central midfielder. Ehsan Hajsafi is not and will never be a left back. He is a good attacking midfielder. He got caught several times in his position. Lastly, Omid Ebrahimi is the worst player in Sepahan. As a defensive midfielder, his positioning, his one on one encounters, and his slow pace are just what Al Ahli need to score on Sepahan.

Al Ahli knew very well of these problems in Sepahan. They used these deficiencies very well. They bought Bruno Cesar to play in the zone where Omid Ebrahimi plays and cover.

[SeZaAhan]

Sepahan has got problems in three positions; left back, right back, and defensive midfielder. AbulHasan Jafari was sidelined because of his terrible mistakes in Al Gharrafas game. Ervin Bulko is playing in his position even though he is a central midfielder. Ehsan Hajsafi is not and will never be a left back. He is a good attacking midfielder. He got caught several times in his position. Lastly, Omid Ebrahimi is the worst player in Sepahan. As a defensive midfielder, his positioning, his one on one encounters, and his slow pace are just what Al Ahli need to score on Sepahan.

Al Ahli knew very well of these problems in Sepahan. They used these deficiencies very well. They bought Bruno Cesar to play in the zone where Omid Ebrahimi plays and cover.

Go Watch the game again! just look how al ahli scored ! Lack of concentration and tiredness was the main reason that sepahan lost! I did not see any hardcore non stop pressing from sepahan players!

Al ahli only won on sepahans stupid mistakes! They had few chances and they scored! Sepahan missed 4 100% good chances!

[kia]

Trust me sepahan will do great with Krancjar this year ! From my past experience every time sepahan starts something really great they suddenly fvck up in the end! So since sepahan has started badly this year they will do good in next stage,! Sepahan needs a win/draw in Saudi Arabia, a win/draw against algharafa in home , and weak al nasr! (so about 7 more points) ~ al ahli will be missing the twat OLIVEIRA who scored two goals! for next match against sepahan

I think we need 3 wins as AlGharafe has 6 points and will definitely beat AlNasr at home and will have 9 points and since AlAhli is already qualified the ayrab love will give points to them so figure 10 points. We will advance then. If we end up with same ponts we need to beat them by more than 2 goals which is a tough task in Qatar.

[kia]

Sepahan has got problems in three positions; left back, right back, and defensive midfielder. AbulHasan Jafari was sidelined because of his terrible mistakes in Al Gharrafas game. Ervin Bulko is playing in his position even though he is a central midfielder. Ehsan Hajsafi is not and will never be a left back. He is a good attacking midfielder. He got caught several times in his position. Lastly, Omid Ebrahimi is the worst player in Sepahan. As a defensive midfielder, his positioning, his one on one encounters, and his slow pace are just what Al Ahli need to score on Sepahan.

Al Ahli knew very well of these problems in Sepahan. They used these deficiencies very well. They bought Bruno Cesar to play in the zone where Omid Ebrahimi plays and cover.

Our left back is fine. Irannejad is a good LB and Ehsan could be brought up to MF. I agree about the RB though. Omid Ebrahimi is the best DM in Iran so I don't know what you are talking about. Sepahan is a hojoomi team and even though they were up by 1 goal they went to score more but they were too tired to come back and defend.

[kia]

Advancing is not out of the question but tough dar hadde Team Melli!:
بررسی کامل شانس صعود سپاهان از مرحله گروهی لیگ قهرمانان آسیا
ارسال شده توسط کوروش عباسی
جمعه ۱۶ فروردين ۱۳۹۲ ساعت ۰۱:۰۰

سپاهان نیوز - سپاهان در پایان رقابتهای دور رفت لیگ قهرمانان آسیا با کسب یک برد و متحمل شدن دو شکست هم اکنون با ۳ امتیاز در رده سوم گروه C این رقابتها قرار گرفته است. در این مقاله سعی شده است که به بررسی کامل وضعیت سپاهان در گروه خود و شانس صعود این تیم به مرحله بعدی این رقابتها پرداخته شود.

بدین ترتیب که تمامی احتمالات ممکن که می تواند منجر به صعود سپاهان به دور بعدی این رقابتها شود مورد توجه قرار گرفته است. لازم به ذکر است که این احتمالات با این پیش فرض که هر دو تیم الاهلی و الغرافه در بازیهای خانگی پیش روی خود در دور برگشت مقابل النصر به برتری خواهند رسید، در نظر گرفته شده است.



حالت اول: در صورتی که سپاهان در بازی برگشت با الاهلی به تساوی برسد و دو بازی دیگر خود را با برد پشت سر بگذارد

در این صورت سرنوشت سپاهان برای صعود به مرحله بعدی وابسته به دیدار برگشت الغرافه-الاهلی در کشور قطر خواهد بود:

* در صورتی که الاهلی بتواند الغرافه را در کشور قطر مغلوب کند، سپاهان با ۱۰ امتیاز به طور قطع به دور بعد صعود خواهد کرد.

* در صورتی که که الغرافه مقابل الاهلی به تساوی برسد، سپاهان برای صعود مطمئن بایستی در دیدار آخر خود با اختلاف سه گل الغرافه را مغلوب کند تا بتواند با کسب نتایج بهتر در بازیهای مستقیم و با ۱۰ امتیاز به دور بعدی صعود کند. گفتنی است طبق قوانین این مسابقات در نگاه کردن به نتایج بازیهای مستقیم دو تیم هم امتیاز، گل زده در خانه حریف ارزشی ندارد.

* در صورتی که که الغرافه مقابل الاهلی به برتری برسد، سپاهان با کسب با ۱۰ امتیاز از دور مسابقات حذف خواهد شد.

بررسی این حالت: الاهلی در صورت کسب تساوی مقابل سپاهان در بازی برگشت و با در نظر گرفتن برد کاملا محتمل این تیم در بازی خانگی مقابل النصر می تواند خیال خود را بابت صعود به دور بعدی راحت کند. در اینصورت با توجه به قدرت بالای الغرافه در بازیهای خانگی و همچنین با توجه به شناختی که از کشورهای عربی و توافقات پشت پرده آنها وجود دارد، به نظر می رسد احتمال شکست خوردن الاهلی مقابل الغرافه در کشور قطر وجود داشته باشد! که اگر این اتفاق رخ دهد، سپاهان با کسب یک تساوی مقابل الاهلی و دو برد مقابل النصر و الغرافه نهایتا با ۱۰ امتیاز از دور مسابقات حذف خواهد شد.

بنابراین در حالت کلی و با توجه به وابستگی شدید به دیدار مستقیم دو تیم عربی الغرافه و الاهلی، این حالت شاید نتواند سناریوی کاملا مطمئنی برای صعود سپاهان از مرحله گروهی لیگ قهرمانان آسیا باشد!



حالت دوم: در صورتی که سپاهان هر سه دیدار برگشت خود در مقابل الاهلی، النصر و الغرافه را با برد پشت سر بگذارد

در این صورت سپاهان برای صعود به مرحله بعدی امیدوار می شود و حالات زیر می تواند رخ بدهد:

* در صورتی که الاهلی بتواند از الغرافه در کشور قطر امتیاز بگیرد، سپاهان با ۱۲ امتیاز به طور قطع و به عنوان تیم دوم به همراه الاهلی صدرنشین به دور بعد صعود خواهد کرد.

* در صورتی که که الغرافه مقابل الاهلی به برتری برسد، با توجه به حضور سه تیم ۱۲ امتیازی در گروه در روز پایانی تفاضل گل تکلیف دو تیم صعود کننده را مشخص خواهد کرد. البته نه تفاضل گل معمولی در کل بازیهای گروهی، بلکه تفاضل گل تنها در بازیهای مستقیم تیمهایی که با یکدیگر هم امتیاز شده اند!

بررسی این حالت: در صورتی که الغرافه مقابل الاهلی به برتری برسد و سه تیم ۱۲ امتیازی در روز پایانی در گروه وجود داشته باشند، نتایج بازیهای مستقیم سه تیم تکلیف تیمهای صعود کننده از گروه را مشخص خواهد کرد. بدین ترتیب که طبق قوانین مسابقات، نتایج بازیهای سه تیم با تیم آخر جدول یعنی النصر امارات در نظر گرفته نمی شود و فقط به گلهای رد و بدل شده در بازیهای مستقیم رفت و برگشت سه تیم توجه می شود.

در حال حاضر و با توجه به سه نتیجه به دست آمده در بازیهای مستقیم (الاهلی 2-0 الغرافه، الغرافه 3-1 سپاهان، سپاهان 2-4 الاهلی)، تفاضل گل فعلی سه تیم به این صورت است: (الاهلی: 4+، الغرافه: 0، سپاهان: 4-). در این حالت با فرض اینکه هر دو تیم سپاهان و الغرافه بتوانند با اختلاف یک گل در بازیهای دور برگشت خود مقابل الاهلی به برتری برسند، در این صورت تفاضل گل جدید سه تیم به این صورت خواهد بود: (الاهلی: 2+، الغرافه: 1+، سپاهان: 3-). بدین معنا که سپاهان برای صعود مطمئن بایستی در بازی آخر خود مقابل الغرافه با اختلاف سه گل به پیروزی برسد.

بنابراین در حالت کلی به نظر می رسد اگر سپاهان بتواند هر سه دیدار باقیمانده خود را با پیروزی پشت سر بگذارد شانس بسیار خوبی برای صعود به دور بعد خواهد داشت، و فقط در یک حالت صعود این تیم به چالش خواهد افتاد و آن هم حالتی است که الغرافه مقابل الاهلی به برتری برسد. در مجموع این سناریو نیز با توجه به اینکه سپاهان بایستی الاهلی را در کشور عربستان مغلوب کند، کمی دشوار به نظر می رسد ولی کماکان ممکن!

[Yashasin Iran]

Sepahan's mistake against Al-Ahli was, in my opinion, trying to play beautiful, attacking football (which they usually go for). This should not have even been an option. They should have aimed for a conservative win. Esteghlal did this (actually going for a draw if you ask me) and ended up winning.

[sorkh]

Go Watch the game again! just look how al ahli scored ! Lack of concentration and tiredness was the main reason that sepahan lost! I did not see any hardcore non stop pressing from sepahan players!

Al ahli only won on sepahans stupid mistakes! They had few chances and they scored! Sepahan missed 4 100% good chances!

There is no need to watch the game again. Tiredness was one reason for the loss not the main.

Our left back is fine. Irannejad is a good LB and Ehsan could be brought up to MF. I agree about the RB though. Omid Ebrahimi is the best DM in Iran so I don't know what you are talking about. Sepahan is a hojoomi team and even though they were up by 1 goal they went to score more but they were too tired to come back and defend.

Omid Ebrahimi was the main reason for the first and second goals for Al Ahli. That Bruno Cesar was playing behind Emad Al Hosani and Victor Simoes, exactly where Omid Ebrahimi plays. Watch the first two goals. Bruno Cesar got the ball in the first goal and was loose enough to run and pass the ball to Victor Simoes. In the second goal he was free to burst into the 18 yards and go past two defenders. Omid Ebrahimi was late in both goals, not positioned in front of him. In the second half Omid Ebrahimi did position himself beside Bruno Cesar but he committed fouls on him instead of dispossessing the ball.

Omid Ebrahimi is no way near the best defensive midfielder in Iran. Don't tell me he was called up for the National team. You National team coach invited six players from Perspolis when they were 12th in the league.

[Doctor DOOM]

I dont see why we shd worry.

they will rape al-nasr at their home. they will also beat al-ghorazeh in isfahan.
and I'm sure they can easily get a draw at alahli.


..... if only IRANIAN officials dont f**k them over

[SeZaAhan]

I dont see why we shd worry.

they will rape al-nasr at their home. they will also beat al-ghorazeh in isfahan.
and I'm sure they can easily get a draw at alahli.


..... if only IRANIAN officials dont f**k them over

They are already F*ked over!

They will play naft tehran on 6th , then they will fly to saudi to play against al ahli on 10th! only 4 days (keep in mind that they will be tired from fly + airport ) .

[Doctor DOOM]

^ then, they shd do an SS and refuse to play naft.


.... oh wait, they arent ss (or pp). so most probably they will be punished with a 3-0 by the league officials (unlike those ss and pp cases fo many many years)!!


btw, why ss gets to play their remaining league game on next friday, but sepahan is forced to play their in between their two alahli games?
another c0ck up by the league officials with their pandering to the tehrani teams!

if one is possible, why shdnt the other team have the same luxury?
why put this much pressure on sepahan?

[kia]

Sepahan plays too much attacking football border line on carelessness. People who watched the game know what I am saying. Even though they were up by 1 they kept attacking and gave a pk to Naft on the counter. The ejection was a blessing in disguise as Sepahan started to defend and as a result scored an immediate goal on counter. I simply love Khalatbari. You could see the love of football in his face. He scored a goal and got a PK. Sukay played his most unselfish game today and assisted his countryman to score a goal. In our game vs ES we will not have Bulko. Hajsafi proved today that he ain't no left back. Once he was moved to MF he shined. In LB a made a childish mistake that resulted in Naft's only goal. Irannejad is getting better by the day so he should be the LB. Anyway we are at the top of the table where we belong. Congrats.

[KeonKish]

I have a question.. why do so many coaches insist on playing hajsafi in defense, when he REALLY shines when he plays in a much more attacking role?

and Khalatbari was a boss today...

[kia]

I have a question.. why do so many coaches insist on playing hajsafi in defense, when he REALLY shines when he plays in a much more attacking role?

and Khalatbari was a boss today...

In Sepahan Krancar used to use Ashjari and would use Irannejad sparingly. It was obvious that even though Ashjari was not good he was more confident than IN. IN came from Shahin Bushehr and brought the inferiority complex with him. Once Ehsan came back Kranjar got rid of Ashjari and used Ehsan and little by little brought in IN and moved HS one line up. IN has now gained the confidence. I think he can start now as the LB.