The upcoming IRAN - SAUDI game

[zzgloo]

Every spot on TM must count.....

We have been waisting effective outputs from our forwards..and likes of today's Hashemian,Rezaie,Khatibi,khalili ,etc...have been just waist of spot on our TM......spots that could otherwise add to our output.

Our scores have been comeing either from our midfield players or even center backs whom come all the way to head the balls in......

We must have more contributions from forward possitions...similar to what we had during prime of ali daei and Hashemian, ......but at this time, TM useing ineffective forwards at the possition just because those players have played that possitions in thier clubs. .....

Once, we admit we just do not have the right player for the possition, we can come up with talents we have at hand, to miximise our 11 man out put..and not waist any spot on TM for collective contribution......

There is no reason , not to use offensive midfileds at the forwarding possitions........specialy if we are going to waist so many midfiled talents on the bench , just to keep ineffective forwards on the filed.

Khalatbari, and Madanchi ....should be tested in our forward ....so to give ,speed, style, killer instinct , targets to our already strong midfiled.

[Mr.Good]

Nobody said that Khalatbari will be useless in the middle, and nobody said that daei knows all and all he does in perfect. But for Peyman Agha to come and portray Daei as someone oblivious to simple facts is just plain arrogant. We all know that most players (atleast the good ones) have the capability to play in several positions. what the coach does in to arrange the players such that he gets the maximum out of the TEAM. Now if we have the middle occupied by a good player, then why not use Khalatbari on the left if he can serve the TEAM better than any other player on the roster.
Daei is not the first one to do that. Remeber when Karimi was in bayern? he was pushed to the right side just because Ballak was playing in the middle, and when ballak was not playing, then Karimi played in the middle (I remeber 1 game where he did play in the middle). There are many examples like this, just look it up.

One more thing,
comes KSA game, most probably we will see Kia on the right, Shojaei in the middle and Khalatbari on the left. Does this mean, that Daei learned his lesson in the Kuwait game but he will forget it for the KSA game? or is it because these players combined are head and shoulder above the rest when used in this arrangement.

[faraz]

hate to get involved here...but

Peyman correctly stated previously that we'd get the best out of Khalatbari in the middle a little while back, and if that Kuwait game is any indication of that prediction, he was spot on...

I may not agree with him from time to time but fair is fair, and Daei may have been god in terms of goal-scoring, but nothing unbelievable can truly be stated in terms of his international coaching career so far, especially if we talk about 'Facts' (fact is, 3rd place is certainly no special feat...). I don't see what's wrong with saying he's still learning as a coach?? Heck, i'd love to hear those words come out of Daei's mouth himself to be honest.

[Mr.Good]

1- on khalatbari;

daei is slowly learning as he goes on with the job. and I wish he'd started a year earlier so by now he'd have polished his act. not during the crucial WCQ's.

he's learning coz now, he understood khalatbari's best comes out when he's centered and not pushed to the side .... as was the norm up to now.
some ppl brought up this issue, but hardly anyone trusted them ... until the kuwait game.
anyway, I say better late than never.

one more issue we can notch up, like the other "zareh as LB" and "sadeghi" issues that EVENTUALLY things get sorted out ... albeit after much time wasted!!!

Amazing observation Finally Daei Understood the obvious.
lets just pray that comes KSA game, Khalatbari is not pushed to the left again.

[Martin-Reza]

1- on khalatbari;

daei is slowly learning as he goes on with the job. and I wish he'd started a year earlier so by now he'd have polished his act. not during the crucial WCQ's.

he's learning coz now, he understood khalatbari's best comes out when he's centered and not pushed to the side .... as was the norm up to now.
some ppl brought up this issue, but hardly anyone trusted them ... until the kuwait game.
anyway, I say better late than never.

one more issue we can notch up, like the other "zareh as LB" and "sadeghi" issues that EVENTUALLY things get sorted out ... albeit after much time wasted!!!

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on miracles:
first we need our miracle man back in the goal.
is rahmati fit to play?

Amazing that Daei is still learning, but you already know what he is about to learn.

[Doctor DOOM]

with the newspapers not publishing during Eyd, there is not muich news and rumors coming out of TM, so Rahmati's injury is unknown.

But something tells me its serious, because if he was fully fit, he would have said something by now.

????
said to whom?

u just answered urself, matey .... BEFORE stating the question, though!! strange.

[KasraKhan]

Rahmati is TM's most important player (TM under Daei anyways)

His abscence will be a huge loss for us

[Hadi]

with the newspapers not publishing during Eyd, there is not muich news and rumors coming out of TM, so Rahmati's injury is unknown.

But something tells me its serious, because if he was fully fit, he would have said something by now.

[PouriaAkaBarut]

http://www5.irna.ir/View/FullStory/?NewsId=407532

According to them he was invited for the friendly , but there is no Specific details about his injury !

[Doctor DOOM]

1- on khalatbari;

daei is slowly learning as he goes on with the job. and I wish he'd started a year earlier so by now he'd have polished his act. not during the crucial WCQ's.

he's learning coz now, he understood khalatbari's best comes out when he's centered and not pushed to the side .... as was the norm up to now.
some ppl brought up this issue, but hardly anyone trusted them ... until the kuwait game.
anyway, I say better late than never.

one more issue we can notch up, like the other "zareh as LB" and "sadeghi" issues that EVENTUALLY things get sorted out ... albeit after much time wasted!!!

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on miracles:
first we need our miracle man back in the goal.
is rahmati fit to play?

[IranJavidan]

After watching the Kuwait match and after trying very hard to be fair and put my patriotic prejudice aside, I think a draw is the most likely result on Saturday.

We shouldn't expect a win with this team we have.

It's sad that a lot of people are pessimistic for this game. Justifiably so.

I'm hoping that the younger, inexperienced Saudis are affected by Azadi's atmosphere, and commit mistakes...or a miracle would do just fine as well.

[PouriaAkaBarut]

I Totally Agree With Docotr doom That Khalabatri Was Great and phenomenal today in CM , I don't think We actually had any player That performed Like khalatbari did ,Since years Except Karimi and Wel all know that his time Is done And we should move on ! Since I dont Watch Manny league games from khalatbari I cant tell How is he doing over there , but from what i saw In TM , I think he has a Great View Of the field and vision , Great passing , Control of the ball .

I still Believe That our Defense Is a bit Weak And our Defense mid are just clearing the balls with fear . Deai Should do something about this Even if its To late against KSA but it could helps us In the future against other teams for our defense

Madanchi , thank god That This guy is back To TM , with Him Against KSA We would have no worry If offensive plays . Specially His Shots !

[Hadi]

After watching the Kuwait match and after trying very hard to be fair and put my patriotic prejudice aside, I think a draw is the most likely result on Saturday.

We shouldn't expect a win with this team we have.

[IranJavidan]

It's been a pleasure watching Khosro Heydari this season in Esteghlal, and I'd say that after Borhani and Juanario, he's been Esteghlal's most influential player.

After realizing how consistent he is for Esteghlal, and just how much stamina he has, it was obvious that he will be called up for TM soon.

Now whether he will get playing time under Daei the same way that he trusted Ashjari is another story. But whether it's under Daei or any other coach, and provided that he keeps his current form, Khosro Heydari will be the man for our right-hand side of TM for many years to come...

Come on Martin jan, Mehdi Mahdavikia was once a young, ambitious player like Heydari... It took some time and experience and the trust of Mayeli Kohan for him to become a regular. The rest, as they say, was history.

Isn't it fair for him to get the same chance that Mehdi got when he was also young?

[Doctor DOOM]

1) will be your standard assumption when things are not going according to your plans.

"my plan" or "reality"?
coz some of us have watched g-nejad's games recently

by repeatedly persisting "this elephant is pink", it will NOT turn pink.