Our Game Plan Against The Saudi's !?

[zzgloo]

Here is the latest Photo......almost the same team that plays against the Saudis ,plus 3 legioners !!

[zzgloo]

What I gather from between the lines of the recent interview is

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1- The German,assistant,is not an analyzer....and will help in "Players' arrangement " or " who plays where ! "

2-Gholamnejad will be at the right back.

3-TM ,will play defensive,and for a Tie .

4-may be the reason,for not invieting mahdavikia, has been daei's concern for TM's right side,or saudi's left side ( Ghahtani's containment )....and daei's believe,Kia is not able to take care of ghahtani.

5-TM,will have fast exchanges...and well coordinated.

6-Hashemian, is not yet, coordinated with the team.

7-Daei is prepared for any Arab hasheih !



زنده**داري بازيكنان در كيش صحت ندارد

خبرگزاري فارس: سرمربي تيم ملي فوتبال ايران گفت: اگر قرار باشد به مكاني برويم، همه با هم مي رويم و شب زنده داري بازيكنان در كيش هم صحت ندارد.


به گزارش خبرگزاري فارس، نشست خبري علي دايي ساعت 12:30 و با 45 دقيقه تاخير كه اعتراض حاضران را در پي داشت، برگزار شد.
سرمربي تيم ملي درباره مسائل مختلف تيم ملي توضيحاتي را ارائه كرد.

* اردوي كيش
اردوي خيلي خوبي را در جزيره كيش برگزار كرديم. تمام نفرات با انگيزه حضور داشتند. از مردم كيش كه تيم ملي را در اين اردو همراهي كردند، تشكر مي*كنم زيرا به دور از حاشيه كار كرديم. از رئيس هيئت فوتبال كيش و صدا و سيما و خبرگزاري اين جزيره تشكر مي*كنم كه به خوبي خبرها را انعكاس دادند. برنامه*هاي تاكتيكي*مان را به درستي مرور كرده و مدرس آلماني 4 روز در كنار ما بود. روته مولر يك آناليزور نيست؛ بلكه به عنوان يكي از بزرگترين مدرسان، در آلمان فعاليت مي*كند و با فدراسيون اين كشور تا پايان سال 2008 قرارداد دارد. در نشستمان با مولر، آخرين شرايط عربستان را آناليز كرديم. مسابقه تيم*هاي ايران و آذربايجان را نيز بررسي كرده و به نقاط ضعف و قوت پي برديم. از كار با وي خوشحالم و افتخار مي*كنم كنار مولر فعاليت مي*كنم. كسي قوي*تر از روته مولر وجود ندارد كه بتواند به تيم ملي كمك كند؛ اما همانطور كه گفتم، با فدراسيون آلمان قرارداد بسته است. كادر فني ايران براي ديدار با عربستان با همين نفرات است. اگر روته مولر بيايد، فقط در حد ارنج تيم ملي مشورت خواهيم كرد؛ اما تصميم اول و آخر را من مي*گيرم.

* لژيونر و حضور مهدوي*كيا و كريمي در جنبه تبليغاتي
در تيم ملي دنبال شلوغ* كردن نيستيم. شايد عرب*ها شلوغ كنند و با دعوت ياسر القحطاني اين كار را انجام دهند؛ اما دوست داريم كار خودمان را در آرامش انجام دهيم. به همين نفرات ايمان دارم و تاكنون پاسخ خوبي به اعتماد من داده*اند. با وجود لژيونرها، از امروز با همه نفرات و با تمام قوا تمريناتمان را ادامه مي*دهيم و تا قبل از ديدار با عربستان يك تمرين خوب را برگزار خواهيم كرد. لژيونرها هماهنگي خوبي با بازيكنان تيم ملي دارند. به غير از وحيد هاشميان، در 5 مسابقه همراه تيم ملي بوده*اند. اطمينان دارم رسيدن به هماهنگي هر دو دور از دسترس نيست. در اين شرايط نيازي به مهدوي*كيا نداشتيم؛ اما هر زمان لازم باشد، وي را دعوت خواهيم كرد. شايد شرايط تغيير كند و به كمك او نياز داشته باشيم؛ در آن زمان مي توانيم بار ديگر از حضورش استفاده كنيم.

* شناخت از عربستان قبل از سفر به رياض
شناخت خوبي از حريف پيدا كرده*ايم؛ اگر چه مدت*ها است با اين تيم بازي نكرده*ايم. اين دليل نمي*شود بدون آگاهي به مصاف اين تيم برويم. خيلي خوب عربستان را مي شناسم و در اين چند روز با شناخت بيشتر، تمريناتمان را پيگيري خواهيم كرد. از جنگ رواني عربستاني*ها در ورزشگاه ملك بن فهد آگاهي دارم و علاوه بر من، همه بازيكنان و نفرات نيز از اين شرايط آگاه هستند. بازيكن*هايي داريم كه مقابل باشگاه*هاي عربستاني بازي كرده*اند. مي*دانند فوتبال فقط در زمين نيست. با شناخت از مسائل حاشيه*اي، سعي مي*كنيم تا مسائل غير فوتبالي را حل كنيم.

* محروميت كعبي و مشكل دفاع راست تيم ملي
كعبي جزء بهترين نفرات تيم ملي ايران است و در دوره*هاي قبل نيز بازي*هاي خيلي خوبي براي ما انجام داده است. جايگزين خيلي خوبي براي وي انتخاب كرديم و از اين بابت نگراني نداريم؛ اگر چه معتقدم با حضورش در ميدان مي*توانستيم راحت*تر كار كنيم.

* شرايط اردوي تيم ملي در كيش و بي*برنامگي
همه بازيكنان ساعت 12 شب مي*خوابيدند و هيچ بي*برنامگي وجود نداشت. فقط يك شب، يك ساعت بازيكنان دير رسيدند و به جاي آن، فردا كمبود خوابشان را جبران كردند. معتقدم بازيكنان تيم ملي نبايد در اردو حذف شوند. در رسانه*ها خواندم كه كاروان اعزامي المپيك به دليل مشكل روحي نتوانست نتايج خوبي را كسب كند. بنابراين فراهم شدن شرايط روحي مطلوب مهم است. به عنوان سرمربي تيم ملي مي*دانم چطور بازيكنان را كنترل كنم؛ اما شك نكنيد كه كسي به تنهايي جايي نمي*رود. اگر قرار باشد به مكاني برويم، همه با هم مي رويم. بنابراين، شب زنده داري بازيكنان در كيش صحت ندارد. در كيش بهترين تمرينات را انجام داديم و روته مولر نيز از سرعت بالاي تمريني ابراز تعجب كرد. دوست ندارم اردو كسل كننده باشد چون كسي را زنداني نمي*كنيم.

* علت استفاده از روته مولر به صورت پاره*وقت
بهتر از مولر نمي*توانيم براي كادر فني كسي را پيدا كنيم؛ اگرچه تا اينجا بدون مولر كار كرده*ايم و به اين مرحله رسيده*ايم. در ادامه نقاط ضعف و قوت را همراه مدرس آلماني بررسي كرديم. ايشان در اين مدت كوتاه شناخت خوبي را از تيم ملي ايران پيدا كرده است. همانطور كه گفتم، حرف اول و آخر را من مي*زنم چون در صورت ناكامي، مولر پاسخگو نخواهد بود؛ بلكه من بايد پاسخگو باشم. اگر يادتان باشد، از روز اول گفتم كه مولر با فدراسيون آلمان قرارداد دارد و اين چيز جديدي نيست. متاسفانه رسانه*ها نكات منفي را مي بينيد؛ در حالي*كه بدون آنكه پولي از فدراسيون ايران بگيرد، براي كمك به ما آمده است.

* علت دعوت مهدوي كيا و خط خوردنش در 24 ساعت
درباره دعوت مهدوي كيا بايد بگويم كه قرار نبود فهرست 37 نفره تيم ملي از سوي فدراسيون اعلام شود. 38 بازيكن را براي آنكه مشكلي با سفارت عربستان پيدا نكنيم، به آن كشور اعلام كرديم؛ در حالي كه فقط 25 نفر را مي*توانستيم در فهرست نهايي جا دهيم. اين موضوع كاملا محرمانه بود و اعلام آن كاملا اشتباه بود. نمي*خواستيم به عربستان بهانه*اي بدهيم و اين كار را انجام داديم. در اين وضعيت ترجيح دادم 25 نفر فعلي را براي تيم ملي انتخاب كنم.

* پيش بيني نتيجه ديدار با عربستان
مطمئنا تساوي در خانه حريف مي*تواند دستاورد خوبي براي ما باشد. به شرط آنكه نتيجه*هاي بعدي و در بازي*هاي خانگي پيروز شويم. با وجود همه اين مسائل، براي برد به عربستان مي*رويم و اصلا به تساوي فكر نمي*كنيم.

* حضور ستاره*هاي عربستاني در جناح چپ
ياسر قحطاني و حسين عبدالغني سليماني اگر تجربه حضور در جام جهاني را داشتند، ما هم نفراتي را داريم كه به مراتب بهتر از آنها هستند. بازيكنان ما از ده تا بازيكن مانند عبدالغني نيز بهتر هستند. اگر با دعوت ستاره*هاي عربستاني نگران شويم، بهتر است به آنجا نرويم. حضور در جام جهاني نمي*تواند ملاك خوبي براي ارزيابي شرايط بازيكنان فعلي باشد. از آخرين وضعيت عبدالغني اطلاعي ندارم و بازي*اش را نديدم؛ اما يك مدافع چپ است. دليلي وجود ندارد در اين پست برايش يارگيري كنيم. مجيد غلام*نژاد جزء بهترين دفاع راست ايران است. مطمئنا مقابل عربستان نيز عملكرد وي بازتاب خوبي خواهد داد و بهتر است كه نگران چنين موضوعي نباشيم.
انتهاي پيام/

[Ali Chicago]

Realistically we should expect our team to be under pressure most of the time, so playing an organized defensive game is a must. First of all it will keep our goal safe and as a bonus it will frustrate the opposition playing at home while not being able to score and it will open them up for eventual counters.
Playing an organized defense has actually very little to do with "Ali Asghari" and "Bekesh ziresh" which as mentioned earlier is most likely what we're gonna see, specially considering the type of material we have in our defense.
In my humble opinion being able to play an organized game specially in defense requires cool headed, smart players who have decent ball handling abilities and can keep possession which is the exact opposite of giving it straight away as it is in "bekesh ziresh". Even if you're not so good with the ball, leave the ball distribution to those who are better, like defensive mids.

Let's call this footballing IQ and in this, I'm afraid our whole current defense line combined have very little of. Of those available, Sattar Zare has the best average IQ and that unfortunately says alot! I desperately wish we had someone like Yahya Golmohammadi who had good ball handling skills and if neccessary, could bulid attacks from behind. From the current guys, unfortunately none have this ability despite their repeated insistense on being playmakers from the defense line, but in reality they just give the ball away over and over again. Aghili is a little better thatn Hosseini, but still far from being considered good at this. This is of the main reasons we were so much under pressure in the away games against UAE and Syria. Remember how Nekounam was forced back and almost played the 5th defender?

Another key issue is not giving space to them in our field specially around our box for 2 reasons:
- We have seen from their performances and the goals that they are good at shooting from distanse so that should be shut down as much as possible.
- If they are left with enough space to challenge our central defenders one on one and considering our defenders speed, we're in deep trouble!

If we can keep cool and play organized, we will be able to utilize the Speed of Rezaei in counters, but not by just kicking the ball up and high.

And I am afraid, all the don't you mentioned we will see in the Saturday's game. I honestly hope I am wrong.

[purple_haze]

Realistically we should expect our team to be under pressure most of the time, so playing an organized defensive game is a must. First of all it will keep our goal safe and as a bonus it will frustrate the opposition playing at home while not being able to score and it will open them up for eventual counters.
Playing an organized defense has actually very little to do with "Ali Asghari" and "Bekesh ziresh" which as mentioned earlier is most likely what we're gonna see, specially considering the type of material we have in our defense.
In my humble opinion being able to play an organized game specially in defense requires cool headed, smart players who have decent ball handling abilities and can keep possession which is the exact opposite of giving it straight away as it is in "bekesh ziresh". Even if you're not so good with the ball, leave the ball distribution to those who are better, like defensive mids.

Let's call this footballing IQ and in this, I'm afraid our whole current defense line combined have very little of. Of those available, Sattar Zare has the best average IQ and that unfortunately says alot! I desperately wish we had someone like Yahya Golmohammadi who had good ball handling skills and if neccessary, could bulid attacks from behind. From the current guys, unfortunately none have this ability despite their repeated insistense on being playmakers from the defense line, but in reality they just give the ball away over and over again. Aghili is a little better thatn Hosseini, but still far from being considered good at this. This is of the main reasons we were so much under pressure in the away games against UAE and Syria. Remember how Nekounam was forced back and almost played the 5th defender?

Another key issue is not giving space to them in our field specially around our box for 2 reasons:
- We have seen from their performances and the goals that they are good at shooting from distanse so that should be shut down as much as possible.
- If they are left with enough space to challenge our central defenders one on one and considering our defenders speed, we're in deep trouble!

If we can keep cool and play organized, we will be able to utilize the Speed of Rezaei in counters, but not by just kicking the ball up and high.

[zzgloo]

C- I still say we need reinforcements on our right midfield.
I will monitor the number of overlaps, crosses, sprints, and .... generally the width & quality on that side.
lets hope I am proven wrong

Guess where Yaser AlGhahtani happen to be playing ?
He plays thier left midfield..............which is our right-midfiled !

[Doctor DOOM]

A- I hope we get points out of the game.
3 would be absolutely fantastic.
1 would be fine too


B- This game will be daei's first REAL TEST.
so far we hadnt met with such quality opposition. this game will show daei is "chand marde hallajeh".
Lets hope he comes out with points to make our subsequent games a bit easier and bring in confidence and calm to the team.

C- I still say we need reinforcements on our right midfield.
I will monitor the number of overlaps, crosses, sprints, and .... generally the width & quality on that side.
lets hope I am proven wrong

[The-Red]

no, as long as we get the results bekesh ziresh will do for this one, and I know that's no long term solution and we eventually and specially for our home games need a plan to the get to the opponent's goal, but for now, let's just have the start we want, we'll take care of that later lol
I'll take 1 point from this game if i was offered that, so I think it's possible to get the minimum possible with bekesh ziresh football

[zzgloo]

but seriously guys, if you expect anything other than a Bezan Ziresh football, I think you will be in for a surprise.

I certainly did not......some die hard fans of our coach expect " A-JAX " holland style of football.
there will probably a very shallow first half by TM......., I kind of think, TM will play better if it is behind .

[Hadi]

but seriously guys, if you expect anything other than a Bezan Ziresh football, I think you will be in for a surprise.

[yashar_fasihnia]

ya beghole firooz karimi...
bekesh ziresh. bekesh bekeheshe maham goftim bekesh ziresh....

[Ali Chicago]

Iran will play a solid defensive game. It is forced on us by Saudies. ....

first half: Ali Asghari
second half: Bezan Ziresh

Actually I made a mistake to use the world solid defensive. Hadi put it better I think, it will be Bezan Ziresh pretty much.


Hope I am wrong and I see a solid defensive lock down by our team.

[Hadi]

first half: Ali Asghari
second half: Bezan Ziresh

[zzgloo]

I mostly agree with you yashar and with zz's points regarding the lines of defense and all, and of course nothing would be nicer than a win in KSA...nothing, but the freaking saudis seem to know how to get it done against us. I have a very bad feeling we'll lose 2-0, but I know we are capable of coming out there with at least a point or even win.

I think This game is very winable :
Although, I am sure we are not going to be very fancy ,when it comes to coaching....and I doubt about our coach's abilities........
But,keep in mind, they are being coached by a local coach , nasser Al Jowhar.....who is Saudi Arabian, yet,has much more experince than daei....
But, what this duel of local coach's may indicate...is that, both countries, instead of fancy strategies of foerign coaches...will ,just , play with thier traditional style, and normal streangth of the country's class of football !
In another words, I do not think, The saudi's coach, al jowhar, is able or planning to outcoach Daei !.......so, it will most likely be,the battle of players !....and if that is the case....we can hold our own !

[The-Red]

I mostly agree with you yashar and with zz's points regarding the lines of defense and all, and of course nothing would be nicer than a win in KSA...nothing, but the freaking saudis seem to know how to get it done against us. I have a very bad feeling we'll lose 2-0, but I know we are capable of coming out there with at least a point or even win.

[Ali Chicago]

Iran will play a solid defensive game. It is forced on us by Saudies. Hope our defensive mids (nekoo specially has a good day). It seems Arab players are getting really good on the 20+ yards shots. See KSA and Qatar goals from how far they score on a shoot.

Rahmati can have a great day or an awful day you never know. Hope this Saturday will be his great day. Remember the friendly game against Mexico.


Iran will play a 4-2-3-1, which essnetially will be a 4-5-1. Aghili, Kaabi and Hosseini, zare better have a graet day. Same for Nekoo and Ando to clear the balls that our defense rebounds around our 18 yards.

Does anyone know if Malik Mofaz (not sure about mofaz part) the black guy who played for KSA in AFC championship with Yasar Ghahtani sitll plays in the KSA NT? If yes what kind of form is he in. He was extermely fast and very technical. One on one, he will have Sayed Jalal for desert in open space.

Hope we some how do well.