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  • teammelli8080
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    Originally posted by persian-eagle-13 View Post
    oh please cut the BS, he does not have to say anything about the "rahbar" as if his life depends on it!! many great athletes in iran never bowed down to anyone and that is how they became legends. this guy for a sake of getting a piece a land, money etc.... which he truly deserves should not kiss ass to anyone!!! IRI needs him more than he needs IRI
    YOU cut the BS. how long have you not been in iran for? have you forgotten how it works? rezazadeh is rahbar's dear who would sit next to him in all the ceremonies and kiss his hand. you think if you're going against a federation whose main figurehead is someone who has the implicit governmental support, that you can just get by without trying to at least level the playing field? you guys are completely out of the loop and so far removed from the society that you've forgotten what it's like.

    Originally posted by Persian-Pride87 View Post
    I still believe Bagheri's version of what happened over these 5 wrestlers. We will likely never find out the exact story/truth.
    I think this is a very stupid move by our wweightlifting federation. If the federation believed Bagheri then they should have banned these weightlifters from competing again for Iran. Call me crazy but I think all athletes, no matter the sport, should perform for their countries no matter what issues they are dealing with. Its one thing to dislike your coach or feel offended by your coach but this in my view is not a valid reason to not only boycott your national team but encourage other weightlifters to do the same.
    Now, if the federation believed the weightlifters and their accounts of what happened, then Bagheri should have been fired much earlier. In my opinion, Iran's weightlifting federation just showed its incompetence by how it handled the situation. Bagheri wasn't fired prior to the worlds and the wrestlers who staged this mutiny are allowed to come back to the national team... Essentially, the federation chose neither option allowing this embarrassing situation to fester. Makes no sense at all.
    I don't believe Bagheri's side at all, seems he was just butt-hurt from them voting for bana and other nonsense like this. The federation seems like they're bullying these guys. Tell me, even if the visa thing was real, why wouldn't you at least TELL him that he's won the international weighlifter of the year award so he can be happy about this feat, instead of secretly communicating on behalf of the player and then sending rezazadeh to uzbek when 20 other players had NO problems with visa, etc. this federation is full of spite. Rezazadeh is doing to Salimi what Shaq tried to do to Dwight Howard and it is nothing but pure jealousy and bullying.

    These weightlifters haven't been paid their PROMISED OLYMPIC REWARDS from LAST YEAR. you all seem to conveniently forget that, unlike football where the players have CLUB teams where they make the most of their money, and then so can be expected to participate in the national stage "for their country", the payments for sports like weightlifting in any sort of domestic activity is NOTHINGGGGGGG compared to the payouts for olympic/international wins. how come these guys haven't been paid?? it's over 100 million toman that they are out! that is tens of thousands of dollars, which would be a HUGE thing in the US, much less in Iran. Tell me how many peoples' stomachs you can fill with "national pride". Bullcrap.

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  • Persian-Pride87
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    I agree with you completely my friend.

    Part of them problem with us Iranians in general is that we have too much 'ghoroor' and 'gheyrat' which causes us to lose control/be rational at the first sign of a perceived insult or disrespect.


    Originally posted by EKBATAN View Post
    i agree with that as well

    in the end its for your COUNTRY and not some club....if it was a club then yes its fine to boycott but for your country and how many people are considering you a hero...you should've just sucked it up, went and won the gold and then stepped aside saying i only did this for my people and i dont like the coach, f the federation, i'm out. This woulda been a classy move that would've made him even more fans.

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  • Persian-Pride87
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    Mohammad Bana is an absolute genius. He single handedly turned around greco-roman wrestling for Iran.

    Historically we have been great in free style but almost non-existent in greco. Bana was able to turn us into an absolute power house. It was mainly his doing that developed the amazing world champions such as Sourian/rezaei/nourozi and abdevali.

    Originally posted by Iran Champs View Post
    Thanks, these guys seem like really talented coaches! They should write books on wrestling and preserve what they know and teach people. They are an authority on the subject and I'm guessing they're coaching is the reason why we're doing so good in wrestling recently?

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  • Iran Champs
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    Originally posted by Irannn View Post
    Mohammad Bana for Greco team and Rasoul Khadem for freestyle
    Thanks, these guys seem like really talented coaches! They should write books on wrestling and preserve what they know and teach people. They are an authority on the subject and I'm guessing they're coaching is the reason why we're doing so good in wrestling recently?

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  • EKBATAN
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    Originally posted by Persian-Pride87 View Post
    I still believe Bagheri's version of what happened over these 5 wrestlers. We will likely never find out the exact story/truth.

    I think this is a very stupid move by our wweightlifting federation. If the federation believed Bagheri then they should have banned these weightlifters from competing again for Iran. Call me crazy but I think all athletes, no matter the sport, should perform for their countries no matter what issues they are dealing with. Its one thing to dislike your coach or feel offended by your coach but this in my view is not a valid reason to not only boycott your national team but encourage other weightlifters to do the same.

    Now, if the federation believed the weightlifters and their accounts of what happened, then Bagheri should have been fired much earlier. In my opinion, Iran's weightlifting federation just showed its incompetence by how it handled the situation. Bagheri wasn't fired prior to the worlds and the wrestlers who staged this mutiny are allowed to come back to the national team... Essentially, the federation chose neither option allowing this embarrassing situation to fester. Makes no sense at all.
    i agree with that as well

    in the end its for your COUNTRY and not some club....if it was a club then yes its fine to boycott but for your country and how many people are considering you a hero...you should've just sucked it up, went and won the gold and then stepped aside saying i only did this for my people and i dont like the coach, f the federation, i'm out. This woulda been a classy move that would've made him even more fans.

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  • Irannn
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    Originally posted by Iran Champs View Post
    Speaking of wrestlers, does anyone know who our wrestling coach was for the last Olympics? Whoever it was, the guy was really good!
    Mohammad Bana for Greco team and Rasoul Khadem for freestyle

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  • Iran Champs
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    Originally posted by Persian-Pride87 View Post
    ^ Yes that is what I meant. Weightlifters not wrestlers.
    Speaking of wrestlers, does anyone know who our wrestling coach was for the last Olympics? Whoever it was, the guy was really good!

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  • Persian-Pride87
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    ^ Yes that is what I meant. Weightlifters not wrestlers.

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  • Adesor Vafaseya
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    ^

    you mean weightlifters not wrestlers.

    and Bagheri wasn't fired, he resigned, but the federation still wants to keep him and is rejecting his resignation.

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  • Persian-Pride87
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    I still believe Bagheri's version of what happened over these 5 wrestlers. We will likely never find out the exact story/truth.

    I think this is a very stupid move by our wweightlifting federation. If the federation believed Bagheri then they should have banned these weightlifters from competing again for Iran. Call me crazy but I think all athletes, no matter the sport, should perform for their countries no matter what issues they are dealing with. Its one thing to dislike your coach or feel offended by your coach but this in my view is not a valid reason to not only boycott your national team but encourage other weightlifters to do the same.

    Now, if the federation believed the weightlifters and their accounts of what happened, then Bagheri should have been fired much earlier. In my opinion, Iran's weightlifting federation just showed its incompetence by how it handled the situation. Bagheri wasn't fired prior to the worlds and the wrestlers who staged this mutiny are allowed to come back to the national team... Essentially, the federation chose neither option allowing this embarrassing situation to fester. Makes no sense at all.

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  • persian-eagle-13
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    there is a long list of athletes who never bow down to anyone, Hejazi, daei, karimi, Kia, hashemian, nekunam among others!!

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  • Mort Nejad
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    Originally posted by persian-eagle-13 View Post
    oh please cut the BS, he does not have to say anything about the "rahbar" as if his life depends on it!! many great athletes in iran never bowed down to anyone and that is how they became legends. this guy for a sake of getting a piece a land, money etc.... which he truly deserves should not kiss ass to anyone!!! IRI needs him more than he needs IRI
    Our very own Gholamreza Takhti didn't bow down to the leadership one bit. He is now Iran's most famous and loved athlete ever.

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  • PERSIANMAFIA
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    Originally posted by EKBATAN View Post
    i love how iranians SHIT on each other and ruin everyone's image, then they make up and become good friends as if nothing happened


    ONLY IN IRAN do i see this
    hatman baad az in barnamehe ke raftan biroone estudio tof kardan beham
    ghashang maloom bood comedye

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  • persian-eagle-13
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    Originally posted by teammelli8080 View Post
    ^^ very unfair clipping of the full, 2-hour video, they even censored salimi's own words in this 6-minute nonsense, which includes a long segment including previous team coaches and caretakers talking about how terrible this situation is and the extensive unfairness against these five world champions. you can see the full video here:


    please don't judge based on this short, biased clip.

    also, re: "rahbar" comments, the dude is in iran, it's like "when in rome..", what do you guys expect him to say?? nafasetoon az jaaye garmi dar miyad..
    oh please cut the BS, he does not have to say anything about the "rahbar" as if his life depends on it!! many great athletes in iran never bowed down to anyone and that is how they became legends. this guy for a sake of getting a piece a land, money etc.... which he truly deserves should not kiss ass to anyone!!! IRI needs him more than he needs IRI

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  • EKBATAN
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    i love how iranians SHIT on each other and ruin everyone's image, then they make up and become good friends as if nothing happened


    ONLY IN IRAN do i see this


    ive seen fights where they are ready to stab each other and murder someone, then 2 seconds later they are kissing and ghorboon sadagheh like best friends

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