Official UEFA Champions League Final Barca vs Man U Thread

[K.C.I.N.]

The problem is that you have to at least TRY to play some football against Barca.
Fergie made the same mistakes that Mou did.
They both packed their midfields with destroyers rather than skillful football players.
With the likes of Park,Giggs,Carrick or Pepe in your midfield you will get easily outplayed by Buscets,Xavi or Iniesta. That's a fact.

[HuSsAiN]

Why wasn't Berbatov at least on the bench? Surely he could've added some sort of a spark those last 20 minutes.
I was very disappointed with Valencia today, the dude played like an absolute joke and was clearly overwhelmed with the moment.

Berbatov choice was explained. If the game was tight, and we needed a goal, then Owen would be a better finisher and answer to that. Also, with Barca, your not going to get time and space, Berba wants everything in his own ease..

Valencia and Chico were disappointing, but thats life.

Shayan, I do understand that this is a great Barca side, but i wouldn't have mind us giving you a 'game' and you beat us. We just made it easier than 2009, when Ferguson said ' we have learnt our mistakes '. Who am I to criticize Ferguson, but when it wasn't working in first half, then you have to change it at half time.. we didn't. we got slaughtered.

[Babak]

Why wasn't Berbatov at least on the bench? Surely he could've added some sort of a spark those last 20 minutes.

I was very disappointed with Valencia today, the dude played like an absolute joke and was clearly overwhelmed with the moment.

[EKBATAN]

i said it here first, it will be the saddest day in english football


one of the best games ever

[shayan20]

Hussain jan, enjoy the game, leave the tactic talking in the trash, because no tactics in the world could have stopped this Barca. They were so fired up, its impossible to play against. Sometimes you have to hold your head up and say "I did my best, it wasn't good enough". How can it be that Man Utd get their "tactics" spot on for all the CL games prior to final, come out with best defensive unit of the competition but get slaughtered in the final? Fergusen is the king of tactics, but even he knows, there is no answer against this team when they play in form.

Mou tried the dirtiest tactics, with all their money, all their talk about attacking football, at home in CL first leg in Bernabeu, he defended like he was holding a 3-0 lead and told his players to tackle at every oppourtunity.... and still failed!

[HuSsAiN]

It was just so blatant, after the first 10 minutes, that Xavi, Iniesta, Biscuit, and Messi were bossing it. Why not change it? Rather, what we did was keep it the same, let them boss it, and just allow them to win the match. Bonkers.

What bothers me is this:

We failed to learn anything from 2009. All this talk during the past week that we've learned our lessons and we are a more mature side and we are better prepared and the preparation has been exemplary - really?

You have to concede that Barcelona will get the fair share of possession - that's just how good a side they are. However, in Rome, we were poorly found out in midfield because we didn't press. Did that change? Once - we pressed up on a throw in and as a result, won possession back, scored. Other than that, sit back.

In Rome, Messi the "striker" played so much in between the lines and we had no answer for him. Did that change? No - I lost track of the number of times Messi was darting through the middle of the pitch with the ball, in those spaces between the midfield and center backs.

In Rome, we were shit in possession - we relied on far too many long, direct balls, and didn't play the ball short and build any attacks. Did that change? No. It was all direct - long goal kicks from van der Sar that went straight out of bounds, or over the top balls which were bread and butter for their defense.

In Rome, their midfielders were allowed the space of the pitch to do whatever the fornicate they wanted. Did that change? No - at Wembley, their midfield trinity just absolutely bossed the game, slaughtered our midfield.

And FFS - Messi is the best player on the planet. How about we not give him 10-15 yards of space and three or four touches to do what he wants?

I'm not upset we've lost to the best side in Europe - but so upset that we've given them the match the same way we did in 2009.

[Masoud_A]

I went to a pub with my Pamplonian friends to watch the match, I had a bet with one of them which I obviously lost

[HuSsAiN]

They slaughtered us in midfield. Getting out of the first half at 1-1 was a blessing in disguise, and should have ended up with Ferguson realizing that his tactics were wrong and his approach was wrong and should have encouraged him to stay the course. Instead, he kept it the same, the pattern of the match remained the same, and we were well and truly spanked.

What bothers me isn't that we lost to a great football side. What bothers me is that we made it so flippen easy for them in the end. All that talk from Sir Bobby Charlton before the match about "we may well lose, but they will really have to earn their victory" was utter crap - they were gifted it

[Kaveh Ahangar]

I feel sorry for United.
Today, they were brutally sodomised in front of a live audience of 150+ million.

[HuSsAiN]

Evra is clearly not himself, his positioning was below par. Ferdinand and Vidic made some crucial tackles in the penalty area. Evra's 'handball' was matched by one of the Barca player's 'handball' so no complaints there.
Barca pressured well in midfield. Every time Valencia had the ball, there was at least 2 Barca players in the vicinity so he had no space to run at Abidal. United lost the ball quite often in their own half because of this. This was the main reason why the tactic of playing Hernandez didn't work out, they never had the space to pick him out. United simply didn't have enough chances to score as they kept losing the ball in midfield.
United pressed well in the first 15min but seemed to run out of steam. You just can't keep doing that and last the full 90min. After that we slid off a bit and tried to contain them. The great goals by Messi and Villa perhaps could've been stopped by having 5 men in the midfield and pressing when the ball was in United's half.
As we saw tonight, with the current players in the squad (which have performed magnificently this season), 442 against this Barca side just can't do it, but I would rather play a 442 with the intent of attacking Barcelona than playing a 451 and losing by the same margin.
Barca were top class tonight. Kept possession well, pressed well, and did very well in nullifying the threats posed to them by this United side. Well played.

Rooney is the only united player who can be satisfied with the way he played.

[persianbruin]

Bayern were leading by 1 goal, they shouldve wasted time. But when youre up with 2 goals and waste time when theres only 10 minutes left.. it just makes you look like a douche.

10 minutes is a lifetime. If it ever happens, you'll be kicking yourself for the rest of your life and bayern was up with 1 goal with nothing left, NOTHING! They were both injury time goal. Of course you are entitled to your opinion but as long as you dont commit stupid fouls the rest is fair game

[shayan20]

^

[Mr Pouya]

man you take the whole fun out of watching football, next time I will ignore your replies...
why do you make this me vs united? (if you have any personal problems with me, solve it through PM, I know Im not an Inter fan but plz respect my decision).

the term "gracious winner" comes to mind when reading you post. classy guy.

[shayan20]

Shayan, SAF and Scholes have achieved more than you ever will in your entire lifetime. Praise the champions rather than making fun of some of the most successful people in the world of football.

man you take the whole fun out of watching football, next time I will ignore your replies...
why do you make this me vs united? (if you have any personal problems with me, solve it through PM, I know Im not an Inter fan but plz respect my decision).

[TM4LIFE]

If any team falls behind against barca they can consider the game lost, it forces them to attack and though man u was successfull in getting 1-1 they did not play defensively enough to stop barca's onslaught. Once again a teriffic performance by barca a much deserved trophy, hopefully more to come