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[milad]

That is true to a large extent, but you wont expect Valencia or Villarreal to ever win the Champions League unless they buy enough quality to go through to the final push...like Real and Barca and the EPL teams.

i agree, but im saying that those clubs are better than the other EPL teams outside the top 4 which makes la liga better overall, considering all 20 teams, even though the top 4 EPL sides are better in the champs league.

[Suprah]

fact is when you take money into consideration spanish clubs are amazing. if valencia or villareal had half of tottenhams money they would be amazing (they are still better than tottenham lol). valencia was in the same situation as leeds, but did they relegate to 3rd division? no.... they are still in a champions league spot. EPL only has money which makes the league good because of imports. overall english players just suck.

That is true to a large extent, but you wont expect Valencia or Villarreal to ever win the Champions League unless they buy enough quality to go through to the final push...like Real and Barca and the EPL teams.

English football styles are changing (alhamdolillah) and they needed the foreigners to know what football is all about.

[milad]

Not saying teams are bad. Saying they cant withstand the challenge each and every season. I am sure even Sevilla and Villarreal will eventually become mid-table teams once again and some other team will take their place fighting for CL spots.
and as far as England go, its only been 4 seasons with the same top 4 Before that Liverpool were horrible, and Chelsea didnt have Abramovich's money. Sides like Everton and Newcastle always fancied a chance.

fact is when you take money into consideration spanish clubs are amazing. if valencia or villareal had half of tottenhams money they would be amazing (they are still better than tottenham lol). valencia was in the same situation as leeds, but did they relegate to 3rd division? no.... they are still in a champions league spot. EPL only has money which makes the league good because of imports. overall english players just suck.

[Suprah]

wrong my friend. only this year real and barca have dominated the rest of la liga (still doesnt mean the rest of the teams are bad, look at villareal who was on level with arsenal and man u), like the top 4 english teams do yearly for the past decade.

Not saying teams are bad. Saying they cant withstand the challenge each and every season. I am sure even Sevilla and Villarreal will eventually become mid-table teams once again and some other team will take their place fighting for CL spots.

and as far as England go, its only been 4 seasons with the same top 4 Before that Liverpool were horrible, and Chelsea didnt have Abramovich's money. Sides like Everton and Newcastle always fancied a chance.

[milad]

The team that almost got relegated last season ?

Most of these teams below Real and Barca are like 'flavours of the year' and cant withstand constant top table challenges.

Valencia, Deportivo, Seville, Villarreal, Real Sociedad, and so on.

wrong my friend. only this year real and barca have dominated the rest of la liga (still doesnt mean the rest of the teams are bad, look at villareal who was on level with arsenal and man u), like the top 4 english teams do yearly for the past decade.

[Suprah]

valencia???

The team that almost got relegated last season ?

Most of these teams below Real and Barca are like 'flavours of the year' and cant withstand constant top table challenges.

Valencia, Deportivo, Seville, Villarreal, Real Sociedad, and so on.

[shayan_esteghlali]

its always real and barca in spain....all the others chop and change

valencia???

[Suprah]

its always real and barca in spain....all the others chop and change

[chuck bass]

Torres was out for 3 months (October- December)
Gerrard was out for 2 months (February, April)
and we're still 2nd...no points of bashing anybody, but
FACT: every team has 2-3 players which are really important to them, so you can't call any team a 2 man team
examples : POOL: Torres, Gerrard
UTD: Rooney, Ronaldo
Chelsea: Lampard, Terry
Arsenal: Fabregas, RVP
Barca: Messi, Xavi
RM: Casillas, Heguain
plus, we all know that EPL is much better and more competitive that anyother league in the world including La liga

well that was my point..every team has a few players that are crucial for them..your posts seemed like you thought guardiola didnt deserve coach of the year because he was using messi and etoo..like you thought barca are cheating by using messi and eto'o..i've never called liverpool a 2man team, no team is a 2man team (well maybe LA galaxy when they had beckham lol)

btw spanish league > english league
just look at the "top teams" in la liga..real, barca, at madrid, villareal, valencia, sevilla

in comparision, england only has four team..the same four teams every year lol

[elnino99]

if you want to get technical, would liverpool even be close to 2nd place in epl without torres and gerrard?

Torres was out for 3 months (October- December)
Gerrard was out for 2 months (February, April)

and we're still 2nd...no points of bashing anybody, but
FACT: every team has 2-3 players which are really important to them, so you can't call any team a 2 man team
examples : POOL: Torres, Gerrard
UTD: Rooney, Ronaldo
Chelsea: Lampard, Terry
Arsenal: Fabregas, RVP
Barca: Messi, Xavi
RM: Casillas, Heguain


plus, we all know that EPL is much better and more competitive that anyother league in the world including La liga

[chuck bass]

would Barca have been able to do double over Chelsea and United without Messi and/or Eto'o ?

if you want to get technical, would liverpool even be close to 2nd place in epl without torres and gerrard?

[Milad-69]

would Barca have been able to do double over Chelsea and United without Messi and/or Eto'o ?

Well, It's not about winning games.
It's about winning championships.

[nimster22]

would Barca have been able to do double over Chelsea and United without Messi and/or Eto'o ?

If you consider Torres to be better than Eto'o, then he probably would have, wouldn't he?

That is, would Guardiola be able to do the double over Chelsea and United with Torres and Gerrard?

Irrelevent question anyway... why does the best manager have to be from the biggest teams? There are better managers out there doing a lot more with a lot less. O'neill for example.

[elnino99]

he's been playing lb alot this season..so he can play there
btw chosing benitez over guardiola as coach of the year? LOL

would Barca have been able to do double over Chelsea and United without Messi and/or Eto'o ?

[chuck bass]

Ribery, Gerrard, and Iniesta ?

Not enough holding/defensive bite to keep things tidy -_-

and Puyol isnt a left back.

he's been playing lb alot this season..so he can play there

btw chosing benitez over guardiola as coach of the year? LOL