Wich league is the best represented in Euro 2008?

[Mr Pouya]

again, they might have had some nice goals but not nice play.

u never give up do u

[milad]

r u joking, did u c fulham second half of the yr, birmingham, reading some of those game wore more exciting then the top teams

again, they might have had some nice goals but not nice play.

[Mr Pouya]

sometimes thats true. but many times when weak epl teams play each other its a boring long ball fest which finishes 0-0 or 1-0 or 1-1.

r u joking, did u c fulham second half of the yr, birmingham, reading some of those game wore more exciting then the top teams

[ird28]

there are no austrians in bundesliga, not many polish either

[milad]

this season i saw all the EPL game even the lower teams and it might not show in the results but i saw some good football being played and goal scored late and the bottom of the table teams had gd games with each other it was like they had there own mini league it was only the exception of 2 teams that played shit football newcastle united and derby county

sometimes thats true. but many times when weak epl teams play each other its a boring long ball fest which finishes 0-0 or 1-0 or 1-1.

[milad]

So answer me this, La Liga more exciting football wise than the EPL? And do you watch any games where Barca or Real are not playing?

yea i watched one game it was almeria against a bottom table team and it was more exciting then many of madrids games. and i know its not only that one game that was exciting i have seen extended highlights of other teams and they place nice attacking build up football. with epl, when 2 small teams play there might be some nice goals but they just cant build up attacks like la liga teams so instead they just use long balls or sometime races down the wings. even when real madrid finished off the season against levante... levante played some nice football and scored deservingly.

[Mr Pouya]

this season i saw all the EPL game even the lower teams and it might not show in the results but i saw some good football being played and goal scored late and the bottom of the table teams had gd games with each other it was like they had there own mini league it was only the exception of 2 teams that played shit football newcastle united and derby county

[soheil86]

WHAT!, you just sumed up in your reply that half the division play boring football.

yes half of them are boring but the other half are much better than epl.
it also depends on the tactics the coach is using and every match is different.for example i was watching milan-juve it was very very very boring and ended 0-0.then i watched barca-deportivo it was amazing.but in the return legs it was the opposite!

real and barca were 1st and 2nd for only 3 of those years. and damn many of those top 5 teams are now near relegation.

now lets add a couple of more years:

2001-2002:
1 Valencia
2 Deportivo La Coruna
3 Real Madrid
4 Barcelona
5 Celta de Vigo

2000-2001:
1 Real Madrid
2 Deportivo La Coruna
3 Real Mallorca
4 Barcelona
5 Valencia

1999-2000:
1 Deportivo La Coruna
2 Barcelona
3 Valencia
4 Real Zaragoza
5 Real Madrid

2007-2008:
1 Real Madrid
2 Villarreal CF
3 Barcelona
4 Atletico de Madrid
5 Sevilla

of these 8 seasons only 3 times real and barca have been 1st or 2nd.... and its mostly a different team in the top 5 every year.

So answer me this, La Liga more exciting football wise than the EPL? And do you watch any games where Barca or Real are not playing?

[futbol>>>IRAN]

real and barca were 1st and 2nd for only 3 of those years. and damn many of those top 5 teams are now near relegation.

now lets add a couple of more years:

2001-2002:
1 Valencia
2 Deportivo La Coruna
3 Real Madrid
4 Barcelona
5 Celta de Vigo

2000-2001:
1 Real Madrid
2 Deportivo La Coruna
3 Real Mallorca
4 Barcelona
5 Valencia

1999-2000:
1 Deportivo La Coruna
2 Barcelona
3 Valencia
4 Real Zaragoza
5 Real Madrid

2007-2008:
1 Real Madrid
2 Villarreal CF
3 Barcelona
4 Atletico de Madrid
5 Sevilla

of these 8 seasons only 3 times real and barca have been 1st or 2nd.... and its mostly a different team in the top 5 every year.


now lets take a look at the premiership:

2000-2001
1 Manchester United
2 Arsenal
3 Liverpool
4 Leeds United
5 Ipswich Town
6 chelsea

2001-2002
1 Arsenal
2 Liverpool
3 Manchester United
4 Newcastle United
5 Leeds United

2002-2003
1 Manchester United
2 Arsenal
3 Newcastle United
4 Chelsea
5 Liverpool

2003-2004
1 Arsenal
2 Chelsea
3 Manchester United
4 Liverpool
5 Newcastle United

2004-2005
1 Chelsea
2 Arsenal
3 Manchester United
4 Everton
5 Liverpool

2005-2006
1 Chelsea
2 Manchester United
3 Liverpool
4 Arsenal
5 Tottenham Hotspur

2006-2007
1 Manchester United
2 Chelsea
3 Liverpool
4 Arsenal
5 Tottenham Hotspur

2007-2008
1 Manchester United
2 Chelsea
3 Arsenal
4 Liverpool
5 Everton



5 out of 8 seasons the top 4 have been the same teams while the rest of the league gets raped. if you watch a game of lets say for example 18th placed zaragoza you will be entertained. but imagine having to sit through a game of 18th placed reading. that my friend is the difference.

OWNED!

[milad]

Heres the tables for the top 4 from the past 5 years:
06-07:
Pos Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Real Madrid 1 38 23 7 8 66 40 +26 76
2 FC Barcelona 1 38 22 10 6 78 33 +45 76
3 Sevilla FC 38 21 8 9 64 35 +29 71
4 Valencia CF 38 20 6 12 57 42 +15 66
5 Villarreal CF 38 18 8 12 48 44 +4 62
05-06:
P Club Pld W D L GF GA Pts GD
1 FC Barcelona 38 25 7 6 80 38 82 +42
2 Real Madrid 38 20 10 8 70 40 70 +30
3 Valencia CF 38 19 12 7 58 33 69 +25
4 Osasuna 38 21 5 12 49 43 68 +6
5 Sevilla FC 38 20 8 10 54 39 68 +15
04-05:
P Club Pld W D L GF GA Pts GD
1 FC Barcelona 38 25 9 4 73 29 84 +44
2 Real Madrid 38 25 5 8 71 32 80 +39
3 Villarreal CF 38 18 11 9 69 37 65 +32
4 Betis 38 16 14 8 62 50 62 +12
5 RCD Espanyol 38 17 10 11 54 46 61 +8
03-04:
1 Valencia CF 38 23 8 7 71 27 77 +44
2 FC Barcelona 38 21 9 8 63 39 72 +24 4 Real Madrid 38 21 7 10 72 54 70 +18
5 Athletic Bilbao 38 15 11 12 53 49 56 +4
02-03:
P Club Pld W D L GF GA Pts GD
1 Real Madrid 38 22 12 4 86 42 78 +44

real and barca were 1st and 2nd for only 3 of those years. and damn many of those top 5 teams are now near relegation.

now lets add a couple of more years:

2001-2002:
1 Valencia
2 Deportivo La Coruna
3 Real Madrid
4 Barcelona
5 Celta de Vigo

2000-2001:
1 Real Madrid
2 Deportivo La Coruna
3 Real Mallorca
4 Barcelona
5 Valencia

1999-2000:
1 Deportivo La Coruna
2 Barcelona
3 Valencia
4 Real Zaragoza
5 Real Madrid

2007-2008:
1 Real Madrid
2 Villarreal CF
3 Barcelona
4 Atletico de Madrid
5 Sevilla

of these 8 seasons only 3 times real and barca have been 1st or 2nd.... and its mostly a different team in the top 5 every year.


now lets take a look at the premiership:

2000-2001
1 Manchester United
2 Arsenal
3 Liverpool
4 Leeds United
5 Ipswich Town
6 chelsea

2001-2002
1 Arsenal
2 Liverpool
3 Manchester United
4 Newcastle United
5 Leeds United

2002-2003
1 Manchester United
2 Arsenal
3 Newcastle United
4 Chelsea
5 Liverpool

2003-2004
1 Arsenal
2 Chelsea
3 Manchester United
4 Liverpool
5 Newcastle United

2004-2005
1 Chelsea
2 Arsenal
3 Manchester United
4 Everton
5 Liverpool

2005-2006
1 Chelsea
2 Manchester United
3 Liverpool
4 Arsenal
5 Tottenham Hotspur

2006-2007
1 Manchester United
2 Chelsea
3 Liverpool
4 Arsenal
5 Tottenham Hotspur

2007-2008
1 Manchester United
2 Chelsea
3 Arsenal
4 Liverpool
5 Everton



5 out of 8 seasons the top 4 have been the same teams while the rest of the league gets raped. if you watch a game of lets say for example 18th placed zaragoza you will be entertained. but imagine having to sit through a game of 18th placed reading. that my friend is the difference.

[yashar_fasihnia]

its always been bundesliga in recent years. even worldcup 2006 i think, it was either bundesliga or EPL.. but these 2 were the highest!

[the-ali]

seing as how England didnt make it, its obvious why they are not the most respresented. even still they are sending plenty of players!

[milad]

First of all, LOL at the circle in the EPL being 4 teams and the other being 18 teams.
Now i know what i would prefer.......
Look how close the top 3 is in England. That is what is called exciting.
Then look at the gap between first and second in Spain.
Your image worked against you brother, not for you.

its called a league for a reason. when 4 teams dominate the rest there is a problem. exciting? LOL. check out last years la liga standings. look at derby for gods sake! 11 points from 38 games!