Poll/Do you care about Iran football and WC with what's been happening?

[koorosh]

Very well said ashimashi jaan. It's great to know we have compatriots like you on this forum. I will probably watch the matches yet I am numb. In my book, they already lost to the people of Iran before even they got on the pitch.

Woman, Life, Freedom!
زن، زندگی، آزادی

Baba you guys are too Ajool!

Just wait and some will come through and make us proud.

Also most of the players were outside Iran...did not attend.

Maybe they are planning something???

Wait and then judge.

Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk

[Futbaldoost]

I feel the same. I have been an ardent fan all my life and team Melli has been a big part of my life. I have been on this site for 20 years! But this time is different. In the past they had no choice, we were all on the same sinking boat, and they provided us with some joy. This time, they had a choice. There is momentum behind this movement and the eyes of the world is on them. Yet they chose to bow to Raisi and sell their compatriots.

I’d still watch the games they play, support Azmoun, etc, but all with numbness, disinterest, and frankly a broken heart.

unless they do something radical during the marches to redeem themselves. Highly doubt it. They’ll do some mild meaningless (at this point) gesture at best…

Very well said ashimashi jaan. It's great to know we have compatriots like you on this forum. I will probably watch the matches yet I am numb. In my book, they already lost to the people of Iran before even they got on the pitch.

Woman, Life, Freedom!
زن، زندگی، آزادی

[ashimashi]

This is no longer my Team Melli. This is "teameh jomhooree-eh eslami". Anyone (including CQ) who met with the criminal Raeisi and gave him positive coverage by their presence are no longer part of my Team Melli. I understand that some who play in Europe may feel different but the ship has sailed for me. This is the first time I have felt this way in my life. It's painful. Raeisi is a mass criminal and belongs in a national truth and reconciliation tribunal. The blood on his hands go beyond the 300+ since Mahsa's killing, it includes 4000+ in 1988 when he headed the committee of death commissioned by Khomeini to execute defenseless political prisoners including many who had served their full sentences and were awaiting freedom. CQ showed that he is just here for the money and fame and has not much humanity left in him. The players and other staff who went to the "presidential palace" showed that they have no honor and as Yahya said they get a zero score. Shame, shame, shame!

Woman, Life, Freedom!
زن، زندگی، آزادی

I feel the same. I have been an ardent fan all my life and team Melli has been a big part of my life. I have been on this site for 20 years! But this time is different. In the past they had no choice, we were all on the same sinking boat, and they provided us with some joy. This time, they had a choice. There is momentum behind this movement and the eyes of the world is on them. Yet they chose to bow to Raisi and sell their compatriots.

I’d still watch the games they play, support Azmoun, etc, but all with numbness, disinterest, and frankly a broken heart.

unless they do something radical during the marches to redeem themselves. Highly doubt it. They’ll do some mild meaningless (at this point) gesture at best…

[Futbaldoost]

This is no longer my Team Melli. This is "teameh jomhooree-eh eslami". Anyone (including CQ) who met with the criminal Raeisi and gave him positive coverage by their presence are no longer part of my Team Melli. I understand that some who play in Europe may feel different but the ship has sailed for me. This is the first time I have felt this way in my life. It's painful. Raeisi is a mass criminal and belongs in a national truth and reconciliation tribunal. The blood on his hands go beyond the 300+ since Mahsa's killing, it includes 4000+ in 1988 when he headed the committee of death commissioned by Khomeini to execute defenseless political prisoners including many who had served their full sentences and were awaiting freedom. CQ showed that he is just here for the money and fame and has not much humanity left in him. The players and other staff who went to the "presidential palace" showed that they have no honor and as Yahya said they get a zero score. Shame, shame, shame!

Woman, Life, Freedom!
زن، زندگی، آزادی

[Artaxerxes]

Here is some sad facts about the protests:

1.) Its carried on by mainly (majority) young people that have no power at all. The older generation tend not to care or atleast they don't dare to protest.
-reason: simply because the older generation have been shutdown and silenced before by IR. Thats why you don't see them. I beleive same thing will happen to this young generation too.
2.) No funding
3.) No Leader
4.) No Training
5.) No Plan whatsoever - people just go out

6.) sadly innocent people get killed
7.) No change will happen. Why? Read No2 to No5 and repeat.

Again i still beleive these protests are planned by IR to shutdown the opposition members inside iran. I've been saying this for last 10 years or so , IR tends to create fake protest only to kill and silence people and make the movement weaker.

People keep falling for it for many years and the movement becomes weaker. I still beleive nothing will happen and these protests are useless. It only makes IR happy.


Regarding football. Again People are sheeps. Some how they think if Team melli gets banned from WC IR will suffer, the truth is that nothing will happen to IR if our team melli gets banned from WC. However in WC we can send huge message to the world. THEY CANT SILENCE your words in Qatar. So Marg bar Khamenei is more enjoyable than seeing our Team melli getting banned.

To think that a womens revolution and burning hijabs is planned by I.R is quite a long shot IMO.

This revolution has penetraded I.R main core and have reached a point of no going back.

[Artaxerxes]

They (except two players) have all publicly spoken out against the government.
What do people want from the players?

Exactly!

i just had a argue whit my cousin about that.

[oracle]

I have a feeling that if Amiri, Torabi are not in the starting lineup, then there will be silence during the anthem. However if the majority or entire team sings the anthem, then it would be obvious that they received life threats for themselves or their family members. People need to understand that when one receives life threats, then "Personal security as well as security for Family members" would be the top priority.

In the meeting with Raisi, it is so obvious that Beiranvand's face is red when placed his hand on his chest. Roozbeh Cheshmi's bow was also suspicious. I really wish that Iranian people do not judge people based on photographs. Who knows what happend behind the scenes? If anyone lived in Iran, went to school, university or worked in that country would know about the warnings and threats that people receive. Sometimes, neighbours would make threats. Also if any Iranian who was an International student in Western countries would know that at times some families broke up, as some family members would be forced to go back to Iran as a result of threats by IRI spies or would return to Iran permanently after they took their scholarship etc.

So what I am trying to say is there is enormous pressure on athletes, opportunist photos taken are not full story, there are always things happening behind the scenes. Maybe Cheshmi and Beiranvand were selected and forced to talk, also told how they should start the greeting. The Team have expressed their support towards the people before that, with the exception of Amiri and Torabi.

How about if goal scorer shows a heart with his two hands, says "Baraye Mardom-e Iran" and then bows or kneel on the grass? Would you be happy with such goal celebration?

I am not excited about this World Cup, I will try to watch Iran's games live and other matches (only if I am in the mood). Football at the moment is secondary.

The perfect goal celebration would be,
the goal scorer runs towards the bench celebrating, than take a portable clipper, which its hidden
And shave middle of his head right there
In front of the whole world.
THE CLIP OF THAT GOAL CELEBRATION
WILL BE PLAYED IN THE NEXT 100 YEARS
evwry 4 years

[Roozbeh-G2006]

Of course most people here care about both. It is a daft question TBH
I will eagerly follow and support both TM in Qatar and
what is happening in Iran. Time we all learn to do multitasking

[Rooyintan]

Closer we get to the tournament and the longer this great revolution is going I feel less enthusiastic about the wc. This is specially true after the embarrassing bow some of TM players did in front of that murderer raisi. I truly hope the team redeems it self during the tournament by not singing the anthem and displaying some form of support and solidarity and not celebrate when scoring. If this doesn’t take place this team will be the least liked and manfoor team in history. The national team is a team of the people and it’s better to stand with the people just like Ali Daei and Karimi than being a bow-down puppet to murders.

I have a feeling that if Amiri, Torabi are not in the starting lineup, then there will be silence during the anthem. However if the majority or entire team sings the anthem, then it would be obvious that they received life threats for themselves or their family members. People need to understand that when one receives life threats, then "Personal security as well as security for Family members" would be the top priority.

In the meeting with Raisi, it is so obvious that Beiranvand's face is red when placed his hand on his chest. Roozbeh Cheshmi's bow was also suspicious. I really wish that Iranian people do not judge people based on photographs. Who knows what happend behind the scenes? If anyone lived in Iran, went to school, university or worked in that country would know about the warnings and threats that people receive. Sometimes, neighbours would make threats. Also if any Iranian who was an International student in Western countries would know that at times some families broke up, as some family members would be forced to go back to Iran as a result of threats by IRI spies or would return to Iran permanently after they took their scholarship etc.

So what I am trying to say is there is enormous pressure on athletes, opportunist photos taken are not full story, there are always things happening behind the scenes. Maybe Cheshmi and Beiranvand were selected and forced to talk, also told how they should start the greeting. The Team have expressed their support towards the people before that, with the exception of Amiri and Torabi.

How about if goal scorer shows a heart with his two hands, says "Baraye Mardom-e Iran" and then bows or kneel on the grass? Would you be happy with such goal celebration?

I am not excited about this World Cup, I will try to watch Iran's games live and other matches (only if I am in the mood). Football at the moment is secondary.

[OSTAD POOYA]

Closer we get to the tournament and the longer this great revolution is going I feel less enthusiastic about the wc. This is specially true after the embarrassing bow some of TM players did in front of that murderer raisi. I truly hope the team redeems it self during the tournament by not singing the anthem and displaying some form of support and solidarity and not celebrate when scoring. If this doesn’t take place this team will be the least liked and manfoor team in history. The national team is a team of the people and it’s better to stand with the people just like Ali Daei and Karimi than being a bow-down puppet to murders.

[bozghaleh]

did you return the tickets?

No, TBH didn't know how, and then feeling so blah that letting them become batel. There will be my empty seat somewhere out there!

[DR Strangemoosh]

I bought tickets to WC but will not go. Didn't watch Uruguay or Senegal, but when push comes to shove will probably watch world cup.

Been watching football for over 40 year lads, and I tell you, the 20 second clip of Elnaz Rekabi brought more joy to me that all the football I've ever watched.

Elnaz Rekabi >>>>>>>>>>>TM

did you return the tickets?

[Babak agha]

^ I don't see why it's so hard to grasp why some people might think that it would be better if TM didn't participate at the WC. Especially after their point has been explained time after time.

Nobody thinks that not going (or going and actually not playing), TM will make the kooni IR regime fall. As nobody thinks mourning someone will bring them to life again. Why did the EPL postponed their games after the Queen died? Did they think that will bring the Queen back to life?

Sometimes you just to things, because they're the right thing to do, out of respect, of of good ethics and sympathy, out of compassion.

(Again this doesn't mean that I think TM should be banned from the WC)

[milad_b]

Here is some sad facts about the protests:

1.) Its carried on by mainly (majority) young people that have no power at all. The older generation tend not to care or atleast they don't dare to protest.
-reason: simply because the older generation have been shutdown and silenced before by IR. Thats why you don't see them. I beleive same thing will happen to this young generation too.
2.) No funding
3.) No Leader
4.) No Training
5.) No Plan whatsoever - people just go out

6.) sadly innocent people get killed
7.) No change will happen. Why? Read No2 to No5 and repeat.

Again i still beleive these protests are planned by IR to shutdown the opposition members inside iran. I've been saying this for last 10 years or so , IR tends to create fake protest only to kill and silence people and make the movement weaker.

People keep falling for it for many years and the movement becomes weaker. I still beleive nothing will happen and these protests are useless. It only makes IR happy.


Regarding football. Again People are sheeps. Some how they think if Team melli gets banned from WC IR will suffer, the truth is that nothing will happen to IR if our team melli gets banned from WC. However in WC we can send huge message to the world. THEY CANT SILENCE your words in Qatar. So Marg bar Khamenei is more enjoyable than seeing our Team melli getting banned.

[DR Strangemoosh]

Read the comments

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cj8OHDcL3MQ/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=