Do you expect TM players to do something in the honour of Mahsa Amini on Friday's gam

[koorosh]

Many if not most of the players have shown signs of love to the regime or worse Khamenei at some point or another. They are deluded...

Don't get distracted and keep your eyes and targets on the real enemy...those who have blood on their hands and those whose deep pockets keep the murderers in power.

Don't let the murderers use the deluded idiots as targets for your anger and actions.

So many of you were blasting some Iranian opposition elements for getting the Iran Canada cancelled... your rationale being that the football players and IFF should not be mixed with politics. Now you want everyone to be judged as being with Iran or against them. Nothing has changed...the regime is the same regime, the players are the same and the murders are nothing new. The only thing that has changed is your attitudes.

We need to be smart and discriminate between the evil elements, their beneficiaries and their deluded supporters. Taremi, Jahanbakhsh, Torabi, Alipour etc are not the enemy. We should not expect anything more from them than any other Iranian.



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[Farzadfarhangni]

If absolute disgust at murder of my hamvatans, and the most brutal oppression towards our women, makes me crazy... Then throw me in the loonie bin.

I am just as disgusted at murder of my hamvatans and brutal oppression towards our women. All I am saying is hate is not the answer. We should not be making lists... A society is made up of different people with different ideologies. Why are we singling out Amiri and Torabi? What are our plans for them? Are we going to have different citizens with different rights? Are you going to kick them out of TM?

I know everyone is emotional right now. Lets just try to bring out the Ghandi/Mandela that is within each of us.

[Artaxerxes]

Oh my god, so many crazies over here. Some of the hot and heavy "revolutionaries" over here are using the exact same language and have the exact same attitudes that the IR revolutionaries did post their revolution. Stop wanting revenge. Make a good government and society and hope that you win the IR sympathizers over one by one. Even if only 20% of Iran are IR sympathizers, you can't get rid of 16 million people. Amiri was considered the most polite and disciplined TM member until a few months ago, and all of a sudden he is on the list of the firing squad. Even Torabi, he is an Iranian and has as much right as you and me. He did not cause any fuss in TM camps and contributed whenever he was asked to do so. So he is a little religious and bought into the propaganda that he was fed since he was born. Lets show him a different society and see if he can continue to be a contributing member. Stop the hate!!!!

If these anti iranian monkeys gives 0 damn about their hamvatans that are being slaughtered just because they want basic human rights ( human rights is a iranian value from dawn of time created by Cyrus the great) then they can f*ck of from our land, you are either iranian or I.R occupier, you cant be both.
Iran is our land, I.R = Let this land burn as long as islam prevails "
Enemy of the state.

[DR Strangemoosh]

Oh my god, so many crazies over here. Some of the hot and heavy "revolutionaries" over here are using the exact same language and have the exact same attitudes that the IR revolutionaries did post their revolution. Stop wanting revenge. Make a good government and society and hope that you win the IR sympathizers over one by one. Even if only 20% of Iran are IR sympathizers, you can't get rid of 16 million people. Amiri was considered the most polite and disciplined TM member until a few months ago, and all of a sudden he is on the list of the firing squad. Even Torabi, he is an Iranian and has as much right as you and me. He did not cause any fuss in TM camps and contributed whenever he was asked to do so. So he is a little religious and bought into the propaganda that he was fed since he was born. Lets show him a different society and see if he can continue to be a contributing member. Stop the hate!!!!

If absolute disgust at murder of my hamvatans, and the most brutal oppression towards our women, makes me crazy... Then throw me in the loonie bin.

[Farzadfarhangni]

Oh my god, so many crazies over here. Some of the hot and heavy "revolutionaries" over here are using the exact same language and have the exact same attitudes that the IR revolutionaries did post their revolution. Stop wanting revenge. Make a good government and society and hope that you win the IR sympathizers over one by one. Even if only 20% of Iran are IR sympathizers, you can't get rid of 16 million people. Amiri was considered the most polite and disciplined TM member until a few months ago, and all of a sudden he is on the list of the firing squad. Even Torabi, he is an Iranian and has as much right as you and me. He did not cause any fuss in TM camps and contributed whenever he was asked to do so. So he is a little religious and bought into the propaganda that he was fed since he was born. Lets show him a different society and see if he can continue to be a contributing member. Stop the hate!!!!

[diz]

[IranFTW]

There's a lot of room for misjudgment and misinformation here.

With Amiri and Torabi, no there isn't. There is no mistaking the utter silence from the guy who showed us a T-Shirt that says "Our only solution is to obey the supreme leader"!

There is also no mistaking a scum like Amiri pretending there is a 50/50 equivalence between the murder of Mahsa and protesters defending themselves against armed thugs!

Most of our domestic players, like most professional athletes, spent their lives on the pitch and in training rooms.

Recognizing cold blooded murder and witnessing brutal treatment of protesters on the street doesn't take a PhD. The crimes we're talking about simply take eyes to see. Are we to believe Azmoun doesn't spend enough time training and playing?

One of the best statements by a public figure is also written by a former footballer, Mahdavikia. I honestly don't know how Amiri and Torabi don't feel ashamed of themselves next to people like this and Karimi.

[Karimi 8]

Who said this? Please provide source.

https://ir.voanews.com/a/iran-sardar-azemon-new-statement/6766651.html

[DR Strangemoosh]

like most others, I'm all for bashing this tyrannical regime. But is this really where we are, guys?

We're on a witch hunt to "guess" which TM players might not be sympathetic enough to the protestors?

Based on what they did or didn't post on social media? There's a lot of room for misjudgment and misinformation here. Most of our domestic players, like most professional athletes, spent their lives on the pitch and in training rooms. I'm not sure what standard we're supposed to hold them to.

I don't love this exercise of calling out individual players, especially when a lot of it seems speculative.

I appreciate your post and the fear of McCarthyism, as someone who is, at least socially, on the slightly left side of the political spectrum, I feel uncomfortable in pointing fingers.

But then just thinking of the six bullets which went through the head, neck, abdomen and heart of Hadis Najafi nullifies that. I don't treat these players as champions of virtue. But I can't countenance anyone staying quiet in this absolute nightmare for the women, and people, of Iran. Sorry.

[ramingeles2000]

like most others, I'm all for bashing this tyrannical regime. But is this really where we are, guys?

We're on a witch hunt to "guess" which TM players might not be sympathetic enough to the protestors?

Based on what they did or didn't post on social media? There's a lot of room for misjudgment and misinformation here. Most of our domestic players, like most professional athletes, spent their lives on the pitch and in training rooms. I'm not sure what standard we're supposed to hold them to.

I don't love this exercise of calling out individual players, especially when a lot of it seems speculative.