Team Melli is in Shambles. Officially Divided.

[milad_b]

This is breakdown of who is on who's side.

slide 1: Team anti Sko
slide 2L Team pro Sko

omid ebrahimi?How did they include him? he didn't even post anything . + he defended skocic before, in his interview.

Either way this is BS! The team is gonna do shit in world cup!


"Ebrahimi: This pressure and criticism is wrong and unfair

Omid Ebrahimi believes that the promotion to the World Cup is the result of the efforts of Dragan Skocic and the national team players, and in the current situation, the fans should support the technical staff. "

https://www.varzesh3.com/news/1829110/%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%87%DB%8C%D9%85%DB%8C-%D8%A7%DB%8C%D9%86-%D9%81%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D9%88-%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%AA%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%BA%D9%84%D8%B7-%D9%88-%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%86%D8%B5%D9%81%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%87-%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA

[perspolis#1]

How much of these actions from up top are being pushed at the ever increasing likelihood that the US cleans us up at the World cup as a propaganda loss?

[Nima]

This i stupid but:

I see why in terms of football Azmoun want SK, he get more support up front.
In terms of other sporting, I see that maybe some players dont want a change as it is right to have such a drama around the team.

The players that maybe want CQ back: feel MAYBE he pressed the IFF to give them better training camps and more frendlies. He defend the team and force IFF to make thing happen.

Many players was surley shocked after last camp. SK dont have the name to push IFF.
I dont say any of them is right ore wrong, but this is the result of a weak IFF that is killing the team.

[Ghermez Agha]

Guys call me an optimist if you want but I really have a strong feeling the division amongst the players is not as bad as many are thinking it is or the media is portraying it to be. Sardar very stupidly posted something speaking for everyone without consulting other players to know what they think and then they corrected him. Let’s hope a conversation amongst the group is all that’s needed for everyone to get on the same page/

Also this is 120%, entirely sardar’s fault. We know it was agreed that the captains of TM, Ehsan Hajsafi and Karim Ansarifard were voted by the players to be the spokesmen for the players. That was very public too so there was no confusion…..how and why Sardar felt the need to make an unnecessary post is beyond me but knowing his history of immaturity he has shown at times unfortunately I’m not surprised. He always will be a child in some ways unfortunately.

[Keshwardoost]

Thats 2 fun 11s.. good for internal game if no friendlies are arranged.

I still believe most of the ones "sided" with azmouns post genuiny thought that if he posted this, it is representing
Tm, they had to copy and post it, dont think he synked with anyone. Ghaedi later posted both, some players removed Azmoun post etc.

Think this was azmouns mess, not blaiming the others at all, they probably just got tricked by the post and thought capitans ok it.

Also it was almost exactly what azmoun said after the camp, with bartar show, that was written in that text.
Soi dont buy this 2 camp thing yet.

[inarsenewetrust]

This is breakdown of who is on who's side.

slide 1: Team anti Sko
slide 2L Team pro Sko

[Nokhodi]

so everybody who posted non-sko aligned is a mutineer. So a strong coach would drop: Abedzadeh, PAG, Milad, M. Hosseini, Karimi, Taremi, ARJ, Hajsafi, Ansarifard, etc?

I dont think so. That would be suicide for the team.

A strong coach would have successfuly managed to gain the trust or at least respect of half of his players. Especially the key ones.

The minute it is proven he has failed to do so (now) he should go. simple as that.

I have nothing personally against sko, but he was unable to do the first thing before even getting to discussion of tactics, create a unified environment where everybody believes team is headed in the right direction.

The mutineers are the ones who went to the presidential palace and demanded he be let go (allegedly).
You know I have been one of the biggest Taremi fans on this site even when people hated his guts, called him khayemal, bashed him cause he was in Persepolis, or even when he f***ed up in turkey - so it pains me to say if those allegations are true - then yes Skocic should get rid of Taremi and JB.

The positive in me wants to believe that Taremi and JB simply told the President we have a shit iff who can’t arrange friendlies, camps or even coordinate kits - do something.

In general I agree with you though, if Skocic has lost half the team, and he won’t kick the players out then he’s ineffectual and should go.

What the players have done (Azmoun and Taremi camps specifically) is unacceptable and very unprofessional.

Things like this have happened before. Marhoom Dehdari basically kicked out 17 (or was it 12) TM
Players because they couldn’t handle his discipline.
That led to players like Abezadeh, Zarincheh, Namjoo Motlagh, Nader Mohammadkhani and many other young players finally getting a chance.

[inarsenewetrust]

Azmoun posted a statement on instagram saying we as TM players don’t want any changes in staff.
About 10 other players plus some non tm players share the statement.
Soon after Taremi and Hajisafi and JB post a statement saying Azmoun’s message was not sent out with full coordination of all.
Interpretation is that skocic may be sacked and half of TM is in favor, and other half is opposed.
Hajisafi has always been the most connected/in the know one so he’s betting on the probable winning horse.
Orders have come from very high up that Skocic must go.

so everybody who posted non-sko aligned is a mutineer. So a strong coach would drop: Abedzadeh, PAG, Milad, M. Hosseini, Karimi, Taremi, ARJ, Ghoddos, Hajsafi, Ansarifard, etc?

I dont think so. That would be suicide for the team.

A strong coach would have successfuly managed to gain the trust or at least respect of half of his players. Especially the key ones.

The minute it is proven he has failed to do so (now) he should go. simple as that.

I have nothing personally against sko, but he was unable to do the first thing before even getting to discussion of tactics, create a unified environment where everybody believes team is headed in the right direction.

[The]

He can’t do anything right in the eyes of his haters.
It was a solid and good statement. Didn’t signal any petty vengeance against the players who didn’t share Azmoun’s message either.

However, a solid coach would cut the mutineers out. I’d have a lot more respect for him if he did that.

The thing is that the supposed anti-skocic players haven't technically done anything wrong (unless it's proven that JB and Taremi did in fact asked for sko to be sacked).

The simply pointed out that Azmoun is not speaking on their behalf and didn't get their consent.

[Soosk]

What an absolute shit show.

Azmoun still hasn't matured. He should have never posted something claiming to be on behalf of all tm players if in fact it was not OK'd by all tm players.

Azmoun posted a statement on instagram saying we as TM players don’t want any changes in staff.
About 10 other players plus some non tm players share the statement.

Soon after Taremi and Hajisafi and JB post a statement saying Azmoun’s message was not sent out with full coordination of all.

Interpretation is that skocic may be sacked and half of TM is in favor, and other half is opposed.

Hajisafi has always been the most connected/in the know one so he’s betting on the probable winning horse.

Orders have come from very high up that Skocic must go.

[Ardalan]

Migam agar Skocic ekhraaj beshe va CQ nayad, fekr mikonid Nekounam morrabbi beshe?

Ya yek haaji bazaari miyaaran?

[Nokhodi]

Can someone explain to me what happened exactly. I tried reading the first few pages of this thread and couldnt 100% determine what happened.

Did Azmoun post on instagram supporting or opposing Skocic? And whatever position he took did he make it seem like it was on behalf of the entire team?

Azmoun posted a statement on instagram saying we as TM players don’t want any changes in staff.
About 10 other players plus some non tm players share the statement.

Soon after Taremi and Hajisafi and JB post a statement saying Azmoun’s message was not sent out with full coordination of all.

Interpretation is that skocic may be sacked and half of TM is in favor, and other half is opposed.

Hajisafi has always been the most connected/in the know one so he’s betting on the probable winning horse.

Orders have come from very high up that Skocic must go.

[Nokhodi]

He specifically defended the players who spoke out the statement which was released by Sardar, by saying such statement was unnecessary.

He's clearly not attacking the players.

Come man, I think we all agree that he's not a great coach, but let's try to be fair to the guy.

He can’t do anything right in the eyes of his haters.
It was a solid and good statement. Didn’t signal any petty vengeance against the players who didn’t share Azmoun’s message either.

However, a solid coach would cut the mutineers out. I’d have a lot more respect for him if he did that.

[Soosk]

Can someone explain to me what happened exactly. I tried reading the first few pages of this thread and couldnt 100% determine what happened.

Did Azmoun post on instagram supporting or opposing Skocic? And whatever position he took did he make it seem like it was on behalf of the entire team?

[Ardalan]

They had 2 WEEKS in camp ke beshinan va masale hal konan. Azmoun decides to do this while is everyone is back with their clubs.. What a distraction from Sardar! Not every player is into bazigooshi. Most of them are trying to get into shape for the new season and WC so that they can last longer than 30 minutes on the field.

Khob Mehdi jan, yeki ham bayad gooshe Sardar raa begire va feshaar bede, amma hala ke pish omadeh bayad say kard in mas'ale raa hal kard.