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[Abtin]

this dude on telegram said,
PUTIN is scheduled to go to iran
next week ..he said in that meeting new
tm head coach will be picked as well.

Hopefully a friendly can come up, even if its on a non-fifa day! 🇷🇺

[Abtin]

this is more dramatic than
shah vs mosadeg coup.

I swear.... always fun to follow iranian football just because of the clown show it is with never ending drama and shitstorms.. ❤️

[Ostad_Goosfand]

only KING CQ goes undefeated vs korea

let me know when another iran coach can hold Korea in Seoul, with minimal chances created down 1 man for entire half (2017)

[diz]

only KING CQ goes undefeated vs korea

let me know when another iran coach can hold Korea in Seoul, with minimal chances created down 1 man for entire half (2017)

Not to mention:

Holding Argentina and Messi for 93’
Holding Portugal and CR7 to a tie
Taking on Spain toe to toe and nearly tying them

[Ostad_Goosfand]

Not to mention:

Holding Argentina and Messi for 93’
Holding Portugal and CR7 to a tie
Taking on Spain toe to toe and nearly tying them

then they will say, it is because we played like cowards. and skocic or whoever else plays an open game, and we lose 3-0 or 4-1, i guess that is a better result

[O-ZoNe]

Not to mention:

Holding Argentina and Messi for 93’
Holding Portugal and CR7 to a tie
Taking on Spain toe to toe and nearly tying them

Great so you play football to draw or lose? What was the end result of this holding?

It's the WC gotta take risks. Ask Costa Rica, Japan, Korea, KSA...and many others all who have advanced. Holding is great but good teams ultimately find a way to break down defence. We held but all we did was weather a storm we didn't actually hold the ball. Anyone can pack defense. It happens every WC. Those who dare try and go for attack win matches. You can't win in football by just holding. A loss is a loss...regardless of if you get scored on in 93rd min or 1st minute.

CQ showed and TM demonstrated they were capable of attacking. But too often they relied on defensive posturing.

Just an FYi we drew a stacked Scotland. We held a very dominant Yugoslavia, and we beat the USA...just so you know we have done this before. So not only CQ but others did so too against good opponents.

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[Dreamer]

Great so you play football to draw or lose? What was the end result of this holding?

It's the WC gotta take risks. Ask Costa Rica, Japan, Korea, KSA...and many others all who have advanced. Holding is great but good teams ultimately find a way to break down defence. We held but all we did was weather a storm we didn't actually hold the ball. Anyone can pack defense. It happens every WC. Those who dare try and go for attack win matches. You can't win in football by just holding. A loss is a loss...regardless of if you get scored on in 93rd min or 1st minute.

CQ showed and TM demonstrated they were capable of attacking. But too often they relied on defensive posturing.

Just an FYi we drew a stacked Scotland. We held a very dominant Yugoslavia, and we beat the USA...just so you know we have done this before. So not only CQ but others did so too against good opponents.

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No, not everyone can pack a defense. We couldn't defend against any of the teams in the 2002 campaign otherwise we would've made it to the world cup, and we couldn't defend in 2006 either, where we went out spectacularly. Same thing for the 2010 campaign. Hell, we barely made it to 2014. Also, we couldn't defend in the start of this campaign with Wilmots, and we clearly couldn't defend against South Korea or Algeria's B-Team. So let's not pretend like everyone can defend.

In '14 and '18 we had a unified team on the pitch, everyone knew their role and did their job to a tee, the team had a clear plan, counter attack. That was the setup for our team and we almost perfected it, and as I'm sure you're a long time follower as well you know that getting Iranians to play any team sport effectively, is a miracle.

South Korea got demolished against Brazil recently 5-1 trying to play an attacking game. We can't just waltz into the World Cup and attack, we're simply not there yet. It takes some years to have a calibre of players who can do both effectively, and organize them into a team, and we're just not there yet.

[diz]

Great so you play football to draw or lose? What was the end result of this holding?
It's the WC gotta take risks. Ask Costa Rica, Japan, Korea, KSA...and many others all who have advanced. Holding is great but good teams ultimately find a way to break down defence. We held but all we did was weather a storm we didn't actually hold the ball. Anyone can pack defense. It happens every WC. Those who dare try and go for attack win matches. You can't win in football by just holding. A loss is a loss...regardless of if you get scored on in 93rd min or 1st minute.
CQ showed and TM demonstrated they were capable of attacking. But too often they relied on defensive posturing.
Just an FYi we drew a stacked Scotland. We held a very dominant Yugoslavia, and we beat the USA...just so you know we have done this before. So not only CQ but others did so too against good opponents.
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Lol, CQ got us 4 points at WC 2018 (most ever by TM). But sure, he's playing to draw or lose.

[Pouya]

Great so you play football to draw or lose? What was the end result of this holding?

It's the WC gotta take risks. Ask Costa Rica, Japan, Korea, KSA...and many others all who have advanced. Holding is great but good teams ultimately find a way to break down defence. We held but all we did was weather a storm we didn't actually hold the ball. Anyone can pack defense. It happens every WC. Those who dare try and go for attack win matches. You can't win in football by just holding. A loss is a loss...regardless of if you get scored on in 93rd min or 1st minute.

CQ showed and TM demonstrated they were capable of attacking. But too often they relied on defensive posturing.

Just an FYi we drew a stacked Scotland. We held a very dominant Yugoslavia, and we beat the USA...just so you know we have done this before. So not only CQ but others did so too against good opponents.

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I'd say defending and only relying on counter attack against Argentina who only lost the World Cup championship with a 118th minute goal is a pretty good strategy, considering that our best player at the time was probably Dejagah who was a benchwarmer at Fullham.

Our strategy against Spain and Portugal who barely won against us while we also had some good chances to score was also a good strategy in my eyes.

CQ and TM didn't show that they're capable of attacking without conceding badly. They showed that they're capable of counter attacking while ensuring that their defense is solid. Be realistic - our squad, quality of players, quality of friendlies, facilities to get the team in shape, are nowhere close to a level where we can play attacking football against the likes of argentina, spain, etc. without it backfiring. CQ's strategy was smart.

Let's not compare Yugoslavia and USA with Argentina, Spain, Portugal or even Morocco. These were world champion, euro champion, african champion and 2nd place world cup teams.

P.S. our WC 1978 team vs Scotland was a very solid team in every way.

[taremiscores]

We created more chances vs. Argentina, Portugal, Morocco and Spain than we did against Algeria's B/C team and South Korea (in Seoul).

[Farzadfarhangni]

Exactly

In Iran the reality is optics is a big deal. You need the resume and personality for people to respect you

This was one of problem with Skocic, average resume makes it so our stars think they should call the shots not him

CQ resume = Man U, Portugal, Real Madrid, FOUR WC QUALIFICATIONS = World Class and no one can say they can top him. End of discussion

It's needed to get players to respect the system. This along with his tactics and personality are key to fixing the locker room. He's the BEST ONE who can do it by far

Is that a Skocic problem or a problem with our players' (or one player in particular)? I think any u12 team knows to always respect and follow coach's advice. Pretty established concept in professional Football or pretty much any team sport. This is a pretty established concept except in Iran, some arab countries and some weak African countries. We have so many professional players in Europe and unfortunately, those are the players that have gotten a big ego and think they should run the show. Same thing in 2006. Our big players with European experience where the ones dividing our locker room. The players inside Iran understand this concept better.

Look at USA, England or even Wales. They all have weak coaches. We don't see any mutiny in their camps.

The solution is not to bring an established coach with big resume. The solution is to establish this concept within our soccer. Otherwise, this sh*t show will repeat again and again. Having a peaceful team where everyone knows their roles will improve our results so much, but we keep handicapping ourselves.

[Farzadfarhangni]

^^^

I have to add that Skocic had the opportunity to establish this concept too with Taremi's first offense. But he was in such a fragile state being attacked by fans, press and no support by IFF which made it more difficult for him to show the courage needed to do it.

[DR Strangemoosh]

I'd say defending and only relying on counter attack against Argentina who only lost the World Cup championship with a 118th minute goal is a pretty good strategy, considering that our best player at the time was probably Dejagah who was a benchwarmer at Fullham.

Our strategy against Spain and Portugal who barely won against us while we also had some good chances to score was also a good strategy in my eyes.

CQ and TM didn't show that they're capable of attacking without conceding badly. They showed that they're capable of counter attacking while ensuring that their defense is solid. Be realistic - our squad, quality of players, quality of friendlies, facilities to get the team in shape, are nowhere close to a level where we can play attacking football against the likes of argentina, spain, etc. without it backfiring. CQ's strategy was smart.

Let's not compare Yugoslavia and USA with Argentina, Spain, Portugal or even Morocco. These were world champion, euro champion, african champion and 2nd place world cup teams.

P.S. our WC 1978 team vs Scotland was a very solid team in every way.

We took essentially a bunch of local and persian gulf team players and really showed ourselves on the world stage in 2014 with our weakest squad depth, incomparible with 1978 or 1998. It made us the darlings in Brazil.

[koush22]

Is that a Skocic problem or a problem with our players' (or one player in particular)? I think any u12 team knows to always respect and follow coach's advice. Pretty established concept in professional Football or pretty much any team sport. This is a pretty established concept except in Iran, some arab countries and some weak African countries. We have so many professional players in Europe and unfortunately, those are the players that have gotten a big ego and think they should run the show. Same thing in 2006. Our big players with European experience where the ones dividing our locker room. The players inside Iran understand this concept better.

Look at USA, England or even Wales. They all have weak coaches. We don't see any mutiny in their camps.

The solution is not to bring an established coach with big resume. The solution is to establish this concept within our soccer. Otherwise, this sh*t show will repeat again and again. Having a peaceful team where everyone knows their roles will improve our results so much, but we keep handicapping ourselves.

You are missing an important piece of context here.

It is simple to say: "Oh kids who are hungry should be happy eating tree bark soup, every 12 year old boy scout has learned this from their camp leader!"

The problem comes when the same kids have eaten fried chicken and burgers, and there is a friend chicken and burger restaurant right across the street while they are starving.

In other words, the players on this team HAVE PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED and CREDIT A LOT OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT to a "good coach". You cannot bring tree bark soup skocic to the same group and ask them to just march towards the potentially greatest embarrassment in their career at WC 2022.

[DR Strangemoosh]

You are missing an important piece of context here.
It is simple to say: "Oh kids who are hungry should be happy eating tree bark soup, every 12 year old boy scout has learned this from their camp leader!"
The problem comes when the same kids have eaten fried chicken and burgers, and there is a friend chicken and burger restaurant right across the street while they are starving.
In other words, the players on this team HAVE PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED and CREDIT A LOT OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT to a "good coach". You cannot bring tree bark soup skocic to the same group and ask them to just march towards the potentially greatest embarrassment in their career at WC 2022.