Majid Hosseini and Ali Karimi @ Yukatel Kayserispor | 2022-2023

[Medzdidz]

Can we stop turning every thread into a Carlos Queiroz discussion please, it’s boring. Move on with your lives or keep the discussion to the Team Melli thread please.
Everyone has valid points, leave it at that.

I also think Majid played well and has become a better player for this move. He still has time on his side - let us not forget that mistakes were also made by our defenders in the qualifying stages. Shoja trying to play out from the back still gives me nightmares.

[Ghermez Agha]

Just on subject of Majid I actually thought his performance vs US was one of the better ones. Bailed us out on multiple occasions with critical interceptions, tackles when US were in transition/had numerical advantage, and generally good on the ball, esp in second half. He also had a really solid game vs Wales.

Shows the impact of regular playing time that Kayseri has provided him with.

I counted 3 or 4 instances in just the first half where majid saved us from conceding. He is for sure a different player and has elevated his game since going to kayseri…hopefully AK steps it up too like he was before his injury.

[O-ZoNe]

The goal was definitely more ramin fault than majid...pulisic was literally his guy at the start of the play, turned him and ran diagonally into the box while the ball went to the other side of the pitch, ramin just fell asleep as usual and then didnt have recovery pace to get back goalside of him. Blaming majid for that goal is not accurate.

Ramin had great game vs wales, he brought energy and put us on front foot with his penetrations and crossing, and ofc scored a fantastic goal. But it was known for years he is suspect defensively. Moharrami had great games for TM vs Nunez (who was playing LW) and Mane in the 2 big friendlies, he dealt with sterling, pulisic, and leao quite effectively in CL just a few weeks ago. Not recalling him vs the US when we knew our backs would be against the wall was a big mistake by CQ. Same thing on left side, sticking with milad, hajsafi and taremi against dest+Weah (and Musah who shifted from CM to that wing and created huge overload there). In retrospect, speed of Jalali and Torabi would have given us a much better chance of dealing with what the US were doing from that side.

I was big supporter of CQ, and given options still think he is best candidate for the job, but his errors were really poor this WC. Any of us here could have told you that the teams issue was most primarily fitness related. To combat that, a rotational system for player selection across the 3 matches seemed to be the way to go. Yes england game turned out to be a spanking, but in that regard it seemed he was playing to an overall plan. The guys that came in vs Wales were rested and played with great energy. Unfortunately, he trusted them to repeat the trick vs the US and as Sardar said, "badana khali kardan". That to me seems to be an oversight from the fitness department/CQ being emotional trusting some of these guys too much. In back 4: Milad cannot play 2 solid games in a row, Ramin defensively and speed wise was totally wrong vs the US, and while the CBs were ok the pairing of Shoja + Kanani was fresh and hyper motivated.

In midfield Torabi clearly needed to start vs the US and Amiri or Saman for Nour (who was garbage vs the US, really the guy killed us with his lack of any ability on the ball but also lack of defensive awareness) were again quite reasonable introductions to keep everything fresh. Sardar if you asked him probably would have said start me on the bench but somehow he got the nod while being done physically, and CQ refusal to bring Zahedi or even Alipour meant there was no other strong physical/speedy option to help Taremi.

Agreed! One can even go as far as concluding Ramin scored a goal that while was nice to pad stats with did nothing to help us advance. He did contribute to a goal against that cost us advancement. Almost prophetic of Skocic when he stated he disliked Ramin's overall game play.


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[naderb94]

Can we stop turning every thread into a Carlos Queiroz discussion please, it’s boring. Move on with your lives or keep the discussion to the Team Melli thread please.
Everyone has valid points, leave it at that.

I also think Majid played well and has become a better player for this move. He still has time on his side - let us not forget that mistakes were also made by our defenders in the qualifying stages. Shoja trying to play out from the back still gives me nightmares.

I agree! I never understand people here and people like Khiabani who criticize CQ for the back line he deployed.. I mean we only allowed ONE goal between the Wales and US games. I repeat, ONE GOAL. That's really good. We did well defensively and the likes of Shoja or Kanaani wouldn't have made a difference.

[Scooter]

I am not a CQ hater. I am a CQ fraud exposer. We have Oracles and truth tellers. You sir are ignoring De Sa's post WC comments. He blatantly said we tried to stop the bleeding because our unproven untested tactics were not practiced prior to England match!

This is the definition of drinking CQoolaide. Taj, CQ, Oracles...all designed to pull wool over the TM fan eyes. I call upon all who have PMed me and apologized to me about defending CQ to come forward and see the light. Cast away the wool from your eyes and see this fraud for who he is!

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Source, please?

[Scooter]

I think other people well answered to your nonsense.
3 WC, 2 AC. And shit the bed when it mattered.
Bosnia, Iraq, Japan, USA.
Lets not mention his failure in Colombia and Egypt.
I don't mind him park the truck without driver. Fine.. You had to do this at some point.
But doing same clueless shit over and over at highest level without picking up players which fit well was real joke.
The worst is finding BS excuses to justify that. Hadeaghal ino az iraniha khob yaad gereft.. Lol
Line up was out wayyy to early. Game at 1 pm.
Kososher kontor nadare ke..

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He is still the best manager for TM in decades, even if you want to look at the negative.

I still think you are just an American couch potato with a big mouth, and no clue. But who knows.. maybe you have some kind of experience from which to draw.

Btw.. I've never understood this: how is his time at Egypt a failure? (You sound like that bigot, Klinsmann) You do know he lost in PKs, in one of the (if not the) most difficult regions from which a country can qualify?

[O-ZoNe]

Source, please?

“Playing with five at the back, it was something that they [Iran] had never done before and we tried it out, we didn't have enough time to prepare and it failed … It was the game that the coaches put out and it didn't work at all,” admitted the coach.

“I must say that there was a stage when it got to 4-0, the only thing that you can think of on the bench is how do you stop the bleeding … I think the third and the fourth goal was so quick, you didn’t even have time to realize from 2-0 down to 4-0 that now this could be a record and we might be in the record book for the wrong reason,” he said.

https://persianleague.com/16903-iran%E2%80%99s-loss-to-england-coach-admits-to-technical-staff%E2%80%99s-mistake

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[O-ZoNe]

He is still the best manager for TM in decades, even if you want to look at the negative.

I still think you are just an American couch potato with a big mouth, and no clue. But who knows.. maybe you have some kind of experience from which to draw.

Btw.. I've never understood this: how is his time at Egypt a failure? (You sound like that bigot, Klinsmann) You do know he lost in PKs, in one of the (if not the) most difficult regions from which a country can qualify?

Egypt was a failure because he employed the same tactics twice....CAF final and WCQ match and lost both! I guess not a failure but the definition of insanity???

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[alieti]

Ali Karimi on the bench today for them. Majid not even on the roster which is weird. Anyone know what’s up with him?

[Farzadfarhangni]

Ali Karimi on the bench today for them. Majid not even on the roster which is weird. Anyone know what’s up with him?

Hosseini is out this game because of accumulated yellow cards. Karimi came in at the beginning of second half while they were down 2-0. He just scored a very nice goal from the top of the box after dribbling nicely past a guy and placing his shot nicely in the corner and out of reach of the keeper.

[alieti]

Hosseini is out this game because of accumulated yellow cards. Karimi came in at the beginning of second half while they were down 2-0. He just scored a very nice goal from the top of the box after dribbling nicely past a guy and placing his shot nicely in the corner and out of reach of the keeper.

Makes sense. Saw the replay of the goal on twitter. Really nice goal

[Farzadfarhangni]

They lost 3-1.

[inarsenewetrust]

lovely goal. He is finally playing after multiple years with bad injury troubles. For our standards he is a very technical, khosh-fekr CM. Too slow for the highest level, yes but if surrounded by the right pieces he can still be a great asset in AC and WCQ moving forward.

Also our only CM now playing at a respectable level in europe. Hope he can regain his starting xi place for rest of season and go from strength to strength

[Scooter]

“Playing with five at the back, it was something that they [Iran] had never done before and we tried it out, we didn't have enough time to prepare and it failed … It was the game that the coaches put out and it didn't work at all,” admitted the coach.

“I must say that there was a stage when it got to 4-0, the only thing that you can think of on the bench is how do you stop the bleeding … I think the third and the fourth goal was so quick, you didn’t even have time to realize from 2-0 down to 4-0 that now this could be a record and we might be in the record book for the wrong reason,” he said.

https://persianleague.com/16903-iran...80%99s-mistake

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Uh.. that article doesn't say they didn't practice it. It quotes De Sa as saying they didn't have enough time, which is totally different. You insinuated it was never practiced, which doesn't seem to be true.

To be fair, CQ and the staff didn't have enough time (or friendlies) to implement much of anything with confidence. That being said, IMO, they should have gone with the most "vanilla" formation and tactics known to football: the 4-4-2. Against England, it really didn't matter who started at most positions.

[O-ZoNe]

Uh.. that article doesn't say they didn't practice it. It quotes De Sa as saying they didn't have enough time, which is totally different. You insinuated it was never practiced, which doesn't seem to be true.

To be fair, CQ and the staff didn't have enough time (or friendlies) to implement much of anything with confidence. That being said, IMO, they should have gone with the most "vanilla" formation and tactics known to football: the 4-4-2. Against England, it really didn't matter who started at most positions.

Article says we never attempted 5 back before. Not even during Senegal game and Uruguay...two chances to try it. Not like CQ didn't know England was our opponent right? So why wait till WC match to experiment?

Time...well all those who cried foul on Taj should be kissed and appreciated since they said this exact thing but so called PFDC Oracles and CQ apologists said this is CQ team. He only needs 5 minutes with them lolol

Logic is being crippled by CQoolaide.

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