Does Queiroz deserve a Statue: YES or NO

[St_Mark]

Lol kheily baamazeh - i used to love using that "convert to art" function on Photoshop/Paint Shop Pro in the mid-nineties Now there are AI based online tools which make things a lot easier and more artistic
Anyway, fascinated that people who ask me to ignore their posts keep not ignoring my posts/threads...

You are a confused person.

you trolling in TM thread is not fascinating but it fascinate you one reply to a third party in your thread.

You replied to my post directly in my thread and asked me a question ( 05-26-2022, 04:44 PM)that I answered you.
Didn't you?
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[DR Strangemoosh]

During his reign i presented few of his statue , here is one, that will be closest possible.
( skipped cracked & Che)

Lol kheily baamazeh - i used to love using that "convert to art" function on Photoshop/Paint Shop Pro in the mid-nineties Now there are AI based online tools which make things a lot easier and more artistic

Anyway, fascinated that people who ask me to ignore their posts keep not ignoring my posts/threads...

[St_Mark]

As a personal opinion I believe no living person should be honored this way. In death it makes sense to honour people and legends. But if we are submitting names then Frank O'Farrell, Alan Rogers are names along with Ali Daie definitely should be honored at some point. They did more for Iranian football than many can do in a lifetime!

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During his reign i presented few of his statue , here is one, that will be closest possible.
( skipped cracked & Che)

[O-ZoNe]

As a personal opinion I believe no living person should be honored this way. In death it makes sense to honour people and legends. But if we are submitting names then Frank O'Farrell, Alan Rogers are names along with Ali Daie definitely should be honored at some point. They did more for Iranian football than many can do in a lifetime!

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[Mahsaa]

Sometimes we forget something.

We adore these people but they get paid millions and have the best life anyone can have, so to be honest we poor people need a statue not the ones who have a luxury life and were lucky

[Roozbeh-G2006]

Sorry to break it to you, but the world view of the "level of our football and our expectations" is pretty low and/or non-existent right about now. Plus the statue would be for the fans, who cares what the world thinks! Lastly, the "world" has erected countless statues to some pretty hideous/heinous/lame people. CQ would be the least of our worries relative to the butchers/imperialists/slave traders the "world" has put on pedestals for centuries.

I suppose it is impossible to argue with those who think CQ is the Masiah. But He is nothing to me. Nor is Skocic or anyone else. By all means buy a figurine of CQ and place it on your mantel piece but when it comes to public places, then it becomes a public matter and not any tom dick and harry should be placed in such places.

[diz]

This is getting ridiculous That would be such a low-class thing to do. A nation of 85 million people put up a statute if a man with no real significant magnificent achievements in his own name in his entire career!!! I wonder what the rest of the world would think about the level of our football and our expectations?

Sorry to break it to you, but the world view of the "level of our football and our expectations" is pretty low and/or non-existent right about now. Plus the statue would be for the fans, who cares what the world thinks! Lastly, the "world" has erected countless statues to some pretty hideous/heinous/lame people. CQ would be the least of our worries relative to the butchers/imperialists/slave traders the "world" has put on pedestals for centuries.

[Roozbeh-G2006]

This is getting ridiculous That would be such a low-class thing to do. A nation of 85 million people put up a statute if a man with no real significant magnificent achievements in his own name in his entire career!!! I wonder what the rest of the world would think about the level of our football and our expectations?

[diz]

I appreciate your view always. Let me see if I can explain myself better. Lets take your comment above. I have no problem with you or anyone else saying: "CQ was our best coach ever. He did so much for our soccer and we should should be grateful to him for having led our team for 8 years." Praise him all you want. No problem. It is the "Skocic couldn't shine CQ's shoes" that bothers me. Skocic is our TM coach right now. And when fans talk about him that way, he can act and try not to let it affect him, but it puts him under unnecessary pressure. Why should we as fans of TM put our coach under extra pressure?
Skocic was certainly aware of all the complaints about him and how unpopular he is. That was obvious in his interview with Adel. He can only act like it doesn't bother him for so long but you know it will. I'd rather he work till 3 am analyzing England instead of saying hell with it, lets go to bed at 10. I really feel we should support TM from now on. If CQ comes back, I'll be the first to support him. But as long as Skocic is the coach, let us as fans do everything we can to support TM.

I appreciate your views/contributions as well. By stating that "Skocic couldn't shine CQ's shoes" does not, in any way, take away from my support for TM. I've been an unconditional TM fan for 25+ years. I can criticize IFF, TM players, and coaches and still be a TM fan and support their collective efforts. However, on an individual level, my praise needs to be earned. I can't blindly support any individual (be it coach or player) if I don't feel they are earning it. This would also include CQ if he wasn't living up to my expectations. Blind loyalty is the last thing I would want from any TM fan on this forum or beyond.

[Ghermez Agha]

No because:

B) In principal, not a huge fan of celebrating foreigners unless they did some very meaningful like saving lives of Iranians or some shit like that.

Dude What??? Because he is a foreigner that’s a reason not to celebrate him?

The man literally paid out of his pocket for TM plane tickets, visited Iranian orphanages with TM players and organized those events himself, and literally fought like hell against his own country with immense pride for representing Iran. I couldn’t find the post match press conference vs portugal but as a reminder he ripped the ref and fifa a new one and let the world know Iran got screwed by not having ronaldo sent off. A regular foreigner in Iran there to collect a paycheck would not go to that length…..no shot.

If you don’t think he deserves one because you don’t think he transformed football in Iran that’s a totally different subject…..but to say that he is a foreigner and shouldn’t be celebrated bc he didn’t do anything to save lives (when he is a football coach not a doctor) is the most ridiculous reason one can mention given how much more gheyrat he exhibited in comparison to Iranians themselves.

[Farzadfarhangni]

It's a simple compare and contrast (no hate from me). But imho, on his best day, Skocic couldn't shine CQ's shoes.

I appreciate your view always. Let me see if I can explain myself better. Lets take your comment above. I have no problem with you or anyone else saying: "CQ was our best coach ever. He did so much for our soccer and we should should be grateful to him for having led our team for 8 years." Praise him all you want. No problem. It is the "Skocic couldn't shine CQ's shoes" that bothers me. Skocic is our TM coach right now. And when fans talk about him that way, he can act and try not to let it affect him, but it puts him under unnecessary pressure. Why should we as fans of TM put our coach under extra pressure?

Skocic was certainly aware of all the complaints about him and how unpopular he is. That was obvious in his interview with Adel. He can only act like it doesn't bother him for so long but you know it will. I'd rather he work till 3 am analyzing England instead of saying hell with it, lets go to bed at 10. I really feel we should support TM from now on. If CQ comes back, I'll be the first to support him. But as long as Skocic is the coach, let us as fans do everything we can to support TM.

[oracle]

and someone to clean the statue………

is that "PASHMAK haj abdullah" in his hand.
i think thats pistachio flavor.

[diz]

Sad that the need of some to worship a guy ("bot parasti") makes them hate other guys...

It's a simple compare and contrast (no hate from me). But imho, on his best day, Skocic couldn't shine CQ's shoes.

[mehdi13]

and someone to clean the statue………

[diz]

For this alone, he deserves two statues. He poured his heart out for TM and our boys (and 80 million Iranians) in front of the world