Konya2022

[Iran Doost]

zeki.

[St_Mark]

Iran's National Olympic Committee, unlike TM, U19, and U17, is the final arbiter of U21 affiliations; nevertheless, they have delegated that authority to IFF. Iran's participation in any tournament or withdrawal from one is decided by the NOC, not the U21 coach. Unfortunately, the U21 coach prematurely announced his withdrawal from ISG yesterday after a dismal game without even consulting IFF or NOC chairman Amiri.

For the U21 team, there is incompetence at every level, from the coach to the NOC president.
Since the withdrawal was caused by the coronavirus, Amiri stated that he didn't believe there would be any consequences for it.

The NOC chairman's comment was not only an outright lie, but also highly stupid.

Regarding theU21 withdrawal from the Islamic' Games, the chairman of the National Olympic Committee stated:
"The fact of the matter is that we are in contact with Mirshad Majedi ,.Sadly, four players' coronavirus tests were positive, and it's likely that there were more. As a result, they need to be quarantined for 15 days. Another issue was that a number of players had injuries, which together with a few others made it difficult to move forward."

رئیس کمیته ملی المپیک در خصوص انصراف تیم ملی امید از بازی های کشورهای اسلامی، عنوان کرد: حقیقت ماجرا این است که با میرشاد ماجدی سرپرست فدراسیون فوتبال در ارتباط هستیم. اتفاقی که متاسفانه افتاد اینکه تست کرونای ۴ بازیکن مثبت شد و احتمالا داده می شود بیشتر هم باشد بنابراین باید ۱۵ روز قرنطینه باشند. نکته دیگر این بود که تعدادی بازیکنان مصدوم هستند و در کنار ابتلای برخی به کرونا کار سخت شده بود .

Rabet, Arazi, Pilaram, and Khodaei's tests on July 30 were suspect, but their follow-up exams on August 1 came back negative. They participated in team practice and played a game versus Persepolis. There were no injuries other than Milad Kor's, contrary to Amiri's claims.

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از سایت رسمی فدراسیون فوتبال،
تست کرونای فردین رابط، علیرضا خدایی، علی پیلارام و بلال آرازی منفی شد و این چهار بازیکن در تمرین بعدازظهر روز گذشته تیم امید حضور داشتند. تستهای قبلی این چهار بازیکن مشکوک بود و به همین دلیل کادر پزشکی با رعایت پروتکل های بهداشتی این چهار بازیکن را در قرنطینه، نگه داشت تا در نهایت تست هایشان منفی شود.

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Against Persepolis, all four alleged virus carriers participated
Here is Belal # 17, Khodaei played as # 16 and Rabet # 11

[Keshwardoost]

Publish Date: August 1, 1401 - 17:54

Clubs promised cooperation a month ago

Fatemi: We could not participate in Konya matches with incomplete team

The manager of Iran's National Football Team Omid announced the team's definitive cancellation of the tournament in Islamic countries due to the lack of cooperation of some clubs.

According to the official website of the Football Federation Faraz Fatemi, manager of the National Team of Hope in this regard said: Unfortunately, the team of hope in all periods is faced with the problem of the lack of players and this time also why we lose the chance to attend the Konya tournament which could have been a good opportunity to prepare. The truth is that in addition to the calls and correspondence of the Football Federation itself, I had spoken to every manager or head coach of the clubs a month ago and all the loved ones had promised to cooperate, but all of a sudden the situation changed and we got into this situation.

Fatemi said, for example, our friends at one of the clubs had promised definitive cooperation, but after the selection of the foreign head coach of the team in recent days, it was announced that the team's distinguished players would not be available to the team of hope, or another club had agreed that it was going to deliver its national team in Turkey, but the foreign head coach of the team also opposed and prevented the presence of their players. Of these, there were other clubs and finally I have to say that all clubs did not provide us with their main players.

Omid team manager added: It is natural that Mahdavi Kia expects to go to the tournament with a ready and complete team and with the incomplete team we could not go to the competition. Our main players and indicators play in their club teams and many of them are influential pawns in different teams. However, we expected to interact with Omid's team for at least a week. The players would have missed the first week of league matches for the first week if they attended konya matches, but the clubs did not cooperate.

Fatemi also stated that some friends say that no contact was made or coordination was done, in a completely documented way we announce that the coordination was done a month ago and even at that point all clubs promised cooperation but all of a sudden their decisions changed and this is uncomfortable.
At the end of the team, Omid said, "Unfortunately, today about the issue of hotel teams, marginalizations were made that our request is that the media, as always, be with the team of hope and do not raise these issues. Media friends witnessed that the settlement was done with the hotel, and it is natural that when the camp was supposed to continue and all of a sudden it is decided to finish the camp, the settlement and evacuation time of the hotel also changes and a few hours need to be taken to take the necessary measures. There were no problems in this regard, and with the cooperation of the Football Federation and the esteghlal hotel officials, we had very good accommodation conditions and finally, with the end of the camp, the necessary measures were taken.

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[Leicester City]

Due to shortage of players and time, TM Omid has withdrawn from the Konya tournament.

Another Mirshad Majedi masterclass.

Keep up the good work!

[St_Mark]

Today's scheduled U21 vs. Paykan match has been cancelled.
Not unexpected given the U21s' decision to skip the Konya game.

The deal with Mahdavi Kia is up for renewal in one month.
To defend his record and his future plans with U21, he must go before TC.
He may resign by then if he feels he may encounter difficulty at the TC meeting.

[St_Mark]

our country is a shame

There are so many scumbags and imbeciles in power.
Rahimi, the director of Iran's convoy at the Islamic Games, suggested that Iran could use lying and deception as a justification for skipping the Konya games.
He advised Iran to exploit the corona virus as a reason to withdraw their U21 squad in order to avoid sanctions.
In a video interview, Mahdavi Kia gave the reason for his withdrawal and attributed it to uncooperative clubs rather than a virus. Why use a lie as a strategy?

رحیمی : به غیر از هزینه، هزینه جریمه هم داریم چون رشته های تیمی بعد از قرعه کشی اگر در مسابقه شرکت نکنند باید جریمه بپردازند. فعلا فدراسیون فوتبال رسما به ما نگفته است و من هم گفته ام تا ظهر امروز رسمی به ما اعلام کنند چون این موضوع جدی است. من شنیدم تعدادی از بازیکنان تست مثبت کرونا دارند و تا حدی شاید این موضوع به ما در بهانه ای که می آوریم کمک کند. هزینه زیادی کردیم مانند بلیت و هزینه اسکان که پرداخت شده و ثبت نام نهایی صورت گرفته و کارتها را گرفته ایم. من نمی توانم فعلا اظهارنظر محکمی کنم مگر اینکه فدراسیون به طور رسمی بگوید.

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[Mahsaa]

our country is a shame

[St_Mark]

It is shameful and disastrous to withdraw a week before the Islamic solidarity games. Iran won't be invited to the following games in four years, and there will be financial consequences for this departure.
The next time, IFF ought to select a coach with more competence.

[oracle]

ONLY WAY IS
DEDUCTION OF POINTS FOR
TEAMS REFUSING TO GIVE PLAYERS.
that needs to be written on stone.


its not the head coaches job to go negotiate
to get players release LOOOL.

[St_Mark]

When your conch will bench you if you go to the u21 team, combined with a football that doesn’t give opportunities to young players often, no player will risk his club career.

There are numerous issues with Iranian football laws and regulations, but Mahdavi Kia ought to have been aware of them and not waited until a catastrophe occurred before taking action.


The similar problem affected Majidi, Estili, and others.


In his defense, Mahdavikia wasn't helped by the scheduling of this Konya game because other Iranian teams weren't even in Iran.

[St_Mark]

I should have added, Persepolis and Teraktor also didn’t cooperate.

If the games are not on fifa days, and clubs have no obligation then what is the point of the Olympic team?
Afc is not going to coordinate the u23 schedule to Match the senior schedule then this will always be an issue.

Might as well just say oh well and give up.

Either give u23 TM it’s players or stop complaining about youth football.

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As I previously stated, the IFF has issued a directive requiring clubs to release players even on non-FIFA days up to five days before the game.
More than five days must be discussed.

[Nokhodi]

Mahdavikia as U21 coach has power and leverage.
He ought to have long ago threatened to cross out any players who failed to show up for training.

When your conch will bench you if you go to the u21 team, combined with a football that doesn’t give opportunities to young players often, no player will risk his club career.

[St_Mark]

Clubs tell Kia that so and so player will be released and then lie.
What is he to do ?

Mahdavikia as U21 coach has power and leverage.
He ought to have long ago threatened to cross out any players who failed to show up for training.

[Nokhodi]

I should have added, Persepolis and Teraktor also didn’t cooperate.

If the games are not on fifa days, and clubs have no obligation then what is the point of the Olympic team?
Afc is not going to coordinate the u23 schedule to Match the senior schedule then this will always be an issue.

Might as well just say oh well and give up.

Either give u23 TM it’s players or stop complaining about youth football.

[St_Mark]

With these ozgal clubs and an even more ozgal IFF nothing will ever get done. What candidate do you even have in mind for this post besides kia with all due respect? Who would accept it?

IFF needs to get the clubs to release their players for u23 duty. Kia can try to kiss their ass but at the end of the day he cannot reach independent agreements with every single club. Thats when IFF needs to threaten with fines, point deductions, etc and everybody will release their players (like in all normal countries actually)

You mention negotiations dear. How would a negotiation with said club proceed exactly... Negotiations are where both sides have something to give up that the other wants.

Kia: Can you please release the selected u23 players for critical prep camp and high profile matches in these dates at ISG.

Jackass clubs: No they are in preseason with us we wont release them.

Kia: This is actually your duty and it is an honor for these players to be selected and be part of the olympic project.

Clubs: No piss off we dont care about u23 team.

What is kia supposed to say exactly? Convince these people what the meaning of national pride or olympic project is?

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I understand if the aim is to criticize Majedi and defend the coach, but doing so won't benefit the U21 team or the coach.
There is no requirement for clubs to release their players on non-FIFA days, however there is an IFF directive requiring clubs to cooperate and give their players to the national teams.

For failing to cooperate with U21, IFF has in the past fined both clubs and players. Aluminum Club, Esteghlal, and its players Houshmand, Hosseini, and Rezaei were all given penalties.
IFF's executive order only permits teams to release two players up to five days before a game ( on FIFA days onlt 2 days).
Without their consent or through negotiation, clubs are not required by this ruling to release players earlier than 5 days.

When Mahdavi Kia invited three Esteghlal players last time, the club only released two, infuriating the U21 coach. Mahdavi Kia repeated his error by inviting 3 Tractor players this time. 5 days before the game, Tractor consented to release all 3 players. Since three of the players were already in Turkey when Kor fractured his toe and will be sidelined for weeks, an agreement was reached for them to join the club there. Sadeghi, with the consent of Mahdavi Kia, attended Esteghlal training today after Saeidifar and Sadeghi were both released by Esteghlal. Ahmadi was released by Persepolis but continued to play for Persepolis with Mahdavi Kia's approval.

Mahdavikia invited three Sepahan players. While promising to free Salmani and Yousefi after their return, they immediately freed Mohkamkar.
Although it is simple to point the finger at clubs, they are only following established procedures.
It would be ideal if Mahdavi Kia handled the negotiations rather than sending it to Jabbari from IFF if he anticipated having players for longer than the required five days.
It appears the IFF Executive is misunderstood.Clubs are not required by this provision to release players for every training camp.