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  • Azmoun_shireh
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    Originally posted by koorosh View Post
    My definition of an A-hole manager is one that puts winning above the players.. doesn't care who he has to get injured, who he tramples, who he knocks down as long as he can get results.

    Someone like Juergen Klopp, when he speaks of his players, speaks about them like a caring father.

    Ferguson time and again trampled people to get what he wanted.



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    Every single player under Ferguson speaks of him highly and many who he had fights with him now talk about regretting their behaviour.

    He is probably one of the best man mangers in the world, he also knew the right time to move on from players.

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  • koorosh
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    Originally posted by nisfejahan View Post

    I guess my definition of A-hole manager is different. An a-hole manager puts his own benefits, likes, and dislikes, ahead of the team. He would lack empathy, blame his players for team failures, and generally see his role as a boss rather than a leader. Being harsh, demanding, or being foul-mouthed is not part of the consideration.

    The dust-up between AF and Keane and Beckham was not AF being an A-hole. It was about AF putting ManU team first. Keane was ManU's captain for 8 years under AF. But what ended his tenure was Keane's TV criticism of his teammates, and AF reacted as he should have.

    "However, Keane's time at United ended unexpectedly early after he criticised his team-mates on the club's television channel MUTV and that led to him clashing with Ferguson in the manager's office.

    Keane was heavily critical of United's performance in a 4-1 defeat against Middlesbrough and didn't hold back in his assessment of the likes of Ferdinand, John O'Shea, Alan Smith, Kieran Richardson and Darren Fletcher."



    ​If anything that episode demonstrated that in AF's team, no player is above the team.
    My definition of an A-hole manager is one that puts winning above the players.. doesn't care who he has to get injured, who he tramples, who he knocks down as long as he can get results.

    Someone like Juergen Klopp, when he speaks of his players, speaks about them like a caring father.

    Ferguson time and again trampled people to get what he wanted.



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  • nisfejahan
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    Originally posted by Nokhodi View Post

    I think Ferguson is one of the all time greats, if not the greatest club coach of all time but he would always fall out with his stars, or kick them out as soon as they dropped form.
    never forget how he treated Beckham or Keane.

    van Gaal is a big a**hole too.
    I guess my definition of A-hole manager is different. An a-hole manager puts his own benefits, likes, and dislikes, ahead of the team. He would lack empathy, blame his players for team failures, and generally see his role as a boss rather than a leader. Being harsh, demanding, or being foul-mouthed is not part of the consideration.

    The dust-up between AF and Keane and Beckham was not AF being an A-hole. It was about AF putting ManU team first. Keane was ManU's captain for 8 years under AF. But what ended his tenure was Keane's TV criticism of his teammates, and AF reacted as he should have.

    "However, Keane's time at United ended unexpectedly early after he criticised his team-mates on the club's television channel MUTV and that led to him clashing with Ferguson in the manager's office.

    Keane was heavily critical of United's performance in a 4-1 defeat against Middlesbrough and didn't hold back in his assessment of the likes of Ferdinand, John O'Shea, Alan Smith, Kieran Richardson and Darren Fletcher."



    ​If anything that episode demonstrated that in AF's team, no player is above the team.

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  • Nokhodi
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    Originally posted by nisfejahan View Post

    I would not classify them as a-holes. Their players (at least a good chunk of them) seemed to really appreciate these two.
    I think Ferguson is one of the all time greats, if not the greatest club coach of all time but he would always fall out with his stars, or kick them out as soon as they dropped form.
    never forget how he treated Beckham or Keane.

    van Gaal is a big a**hole too.

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  • nisfejahan
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    Originally posted by koorosh View Post
    Sir Alex & Mou both prove your belief wrong.

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    I would not classify them as a-holes. Their players (at least a good chunk of them) seemed to really appreciate these two.

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  • koorosh
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    Originally posted by nisfejahan View Post

    My experience... A-holes can occasionally be good players, but they can never be good managers.
    Sir Alex & Mou both prove your belief wrong.

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  • nisfejahan
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    Originally posted by Iran_19 View Post
    Nekou is an asshole!
    Great player but even as player, you were either with him or against him!


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    My experience... A-holes can occasionally be good players, but they can never be good managers.

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  • AhuraMazda1
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    Originally posted by aria32 View Post
    I feel bad for Ashkan. Seems like he feels under appreciated because he never got a proper TM send off. Our football would be shit in the 2010s if it wasn’t for him, and he was the first ever true Euro-based legionnaire that transformed our football. Deserves to be celebrated like the TM legend he is.
    Hardly any of our players get a proper send off.

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  • aria32
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    I feel bad for Ashkan. Seems like he feels under appreciated because he never got a proper TM send off. Our football would be shit in the 2010s if it wasn’t for him, and he was the first ever true Euro-based legionnaire that transformed our football. Deserves to be celebrated like the TM legend he is.

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  • Azmoun_shireh
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    Originally posted by DR Strangemoosh View Post
    I genuinely thought with his calming presence on the pitch, captaincy and all the years in La Liga he would be our greatest domestic talent as a coach/manager. Like Iran's version of Guardiola

    I guess you can't tell sometimes.
    according to the earlier parts of the interview, he wasn't even that calm on the pitch and seemed to yell and swear at everyone lol

    I guess the bs he pulled when he was assistant manager under CQ wasn't an isolated incident after all.

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  • DR Strangemoosh
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    I genuinely thought with his calming presence on the pitch, captaincy and all the years in La Liga he would be our greatest domestic talent as a coach/manager. Like Iran's version of Guardiola

    I guess you can't tell sometimes.

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  • AhuraMazda1
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    Originally posted by arj42 View Post

    Is this the clip you’re taking about?

    nekounam talks so damn much omg. How can a grown man talk for so long after each question. Lots of backhanded comments towards pooladi

    ‏‪https://video.varzesh3.com/video/548...دی-و-تیم
    Yep, that might be the one. Embarrassing.

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  • arj42
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    Originally posted by AhuraMazda1 View Post

    Two things I saw from him I didn't like, first was begging Messi for his shirt and second the public embarrassment I witnessed with him and Pooladi arguing about it on 90. Second was when a reporter asked him if he would be interested in being Skocis's number two and him humiliating Skocic with his response.
    Is this the clip you’re taking about?

    nekounam talks so damn much omg. How can a grown man talk for so long after each question. Lots of backhanded comments towards pooladi

    ‏‪https://video.varzesh3.com/video/548...دی-و-تیم

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  • AhuraMazda1
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    Originally posted by Iran_19 View Post
    Nekou is an asshole!
    Great player but even as player, you were either with him or against him!


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    Agreed. Remember the Taj captaincy debacle between him and Majidi and maybe Rahmati at the time? It was just nasty. Karimi had a similar issue with him too.

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  • Iran_19
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    Nekou is an asshole!
    Great player but even as player, you were either with him or against him!


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