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    Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
    Discipline is key to organization. Skocic did the right thing. They will be called up again but the punishment warrants the crime.

    No one or club is above TM. Playing in TM is a privilege not a right. Good on Skocic. Iron out disciplinary issues asap rather than take them to WC.

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    They're not to blame in this case. Skocic/IFF are to blame for their lack of clarity/stupid scheduling.
    Esteghlal 💙💙

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      Originally posted by peiman92 View Post
      They're not to blame in this case. Skocic/IFF are to blame for their lack of clarity/stupid scheduling.
      This is least on Sarkar Skocic. He doesn't schedule league or cancel approved friendlies. This is completely on IFF, IPL, and Majidis lack of commonsense, badgholi, and disrespect of TM...players follow behind Majidi for not communicating intentions and showing up late to invitation.

      The Skocic hate is unreal.

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        Originally posted by peiman92 View Post
        TM invitation was done by IFF, so was scheduling of W30. What's your point?

        Let's go back to South Africa camp before WC14 and Sepahan situation.
        If you remember they were still involved with ACL and CQ was fighting with Kranjcar over TM players.
        He basically told Kranjcar if you use TM-players in ACL they will be crossed of the list. Sepahan didn't qualify for KO-stages that year so it didn't become a big issue.

        Now if Skocic said something like that in media and Majidi still used the 5 players, then it's another story.
        But he didn't, so Esteghlal/the players are not to blame here.
        making it simple
        Coach invited players, they did not show up on time, he replaced them
        Remaining issues are technicalities and justifications

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          Our squad isn't really as good as i thought, half of the players are useless......especially the Esteghlal ones who got cut and the players who were invited instead.

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            Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
            This is least on Sarkar Skocic. He doesn't schedule league or cancel approved friendlies. This is completely on IFF, IPL, and Majidis lack of commonsense, badgholi, and disrespect of TM...players follow behind Majidi for not communicating intentions and showing up late to invitation.

            The Skocic hate is unreal.

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            He is pretty much involved in all the decisions IFF takes.
            Just look at the recent Canada friendly disaster.

            He wanted it so badly so he agreed on 5 June effectively eliminating our chance of having a friendly on 2 June.
            Flying all the way to Canada also meant trouble because we had to find other teams willing to play there, just to make the trip worth it.

            It was a stupid decision and Skocic is not getting away with his involvement in this disaster. The Skocic praise is unreal.
            Esteghlal 💙💙

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              Originally posted by St_Mark View Post
              making it simple
              Coach invited players, they did not show up on time, he replaced them
              Remaining issues are technicalities and justifications
              You're making it simple by leaving out all the vital details leading up to the decision?

              That's not making it simple. That's manipulating things in your favour.
              Esteghlal 💙💙

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                Sometimes ago he decided to avoid media. Today he was at GA meeting casting his vote

                He has been silent so far on Blue 5 controversy.

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                  Originally posted by peiman92 View Post
                  You're making it simple by leaving out all the vital details leading up to the decision?

                  That's not making it simple. That's manipulating things in your favour.
                  Being invited to TM, is not a right it's just opinion and decision of TM coach bad or good .
                  He decide who invite and reject.
                  It is irrelevant if Esteghlal club informed players or restrict them

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                    Originally posted by Mahsaa View Post
                    Our squad isn't really as good as i thought, half of the players are useless......especially the Esteghlal ones who got cut and the players who were invited instead.
                    Our midfield is actually our weakest point. Hosseinzadeh and Mehdipour could have helped in that department.
                    Esteghlal 💙💙

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                      Originally posted by St_Mark View Post
                      Being invited to TM, is not a right it's just opinion and decision of TM coach bad or good .
                      He decide who invite and reject.
                      It is irrelevant if Esteghlal club informed players or restrict them
                      So Skocic woke up today and all of a sudden decided to drop 5 players, all from Esteghlal? 🙄
                      Skocic/IFF are at fault here for lack of clarity/stupid scheduling.

                      Of course it’s not a right, but that’s not what our discussion is about.
                      Esteghlal 💙💙

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                        Originally posted by peiman92 View Post
                        Our midfield is actually our weakest point. Hosseinzadeh and Mehdipour could have helped in that department.
                        Agreed, but if Esteghlal can't follow NT rules, then off they go.

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                          It’s quite simple. If they had an agreement and they broke their promise, This is what happens.

                          Majidi is a really stuck up guy. This is the same dude who pretended he didn’t know who Jahanbakhsh is.

                          He’s got a sepahi like Ajorloo backing him so he thinks he has carte Blanche.

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                            Originally posted by peiman92 View Post
                            So Skocic woke up today and all of a sudden decided to drop 5 players, all from Esteghlal? ������
                            Skocic/IFF are at fault here for lack of clarity/stupid scheduling.
                            Of course it’s not a right, but that’s not what our discussion is about.
                            *- Coach invited players, They did not showed up and were dismissed.
                            *- Date to show up at TM hotel was for all players with no exception.
                            *- IFF had talks with Esteghlal and agreed with 2 conditions:

                            -Players show at the training camp then with permission of coach leave to attend (not to play) their game and championship celebration
                            -Players to return to TM camp after the game.

                            *- IFF had talks with Estaghlal and according to IFF official they broke their promises,
                            As far as Coch, players never showed up to get permision or not.


                            ما از روز شنبه چندین جلسه داشتیم و رایزنی کردیم با مقامات رسمی استقلال و بارها در مورد اینکه چگونه
                            این وضعیت را پشت سر بگذاریم، مذاکره و توافق کردیم در خصوص جزییات اما در پایان رفتاری از سوی استقلال رخ داد که توافق ما رعایت نشد.

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                              Originally posted by St_Mark View Post
                              *- Coach invited players, They did not showed up and were dismissed.
                              *- Date to show up at TM hotel was for all players with no exception.
                              *- IFF had talks with Esteghlal and agreed with 2 conditions:

                              -Players show at the training camp then with permission of coach leave to attend (not to play) their game and championship celebration
                              -Players to return to TM camp after the game.

                              *- IFF had talks with Estaghlal and according to IFF official they broke their promises,
                              As far as Coch, players never showed up to get permision or not.
                              The only thing i remember reading is that they got permission to attend the ceremony after the game. Nothing about the game itself.
                              Can you show any reliable article( before the game) where IFF are saying the 5 players were not allowed to play?

                              If you can find one, i stand corrected.
                              Esteghlal 💙💙

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                                Originally posted by peiman92 View Post
                                He is pretty much involved in all the decisions IFF takes.
                                Just look at the recent Canada friendly disaster.

                                He wanted it so badly so he agreed on 5 June effectively eliminating our chance of having a friendly on 2 June.
                                Flying all the way to Canada also meant trouble because we had to find other teams willing to play there, just to make the trip worth it.

                                It was a stupid decision and Skocic is not getting away with his involvement in this disaster. The Skocic praise is unreal.
                                You speculate much. Any shred of evidence what you are saying is true? Half the Skocic haters call him a yes man who makes no decisions or efforts...the other half calla him the only man making all the decisions. We all praised the Canada match as a coup for IFF and a perfect friendly. Canada chose to cancel it not Skocic.

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